Posts by EndofMysteries

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I don't get this! Does anyone?

by wannabe in

i thought that jehovah had his worshippers on this earth today!.

why does the prophecy of zephania make it look there'll be no survivors ar armageddon?

doesn't that sound very strange to anyone?

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Read Is 27:14 "therefore hear the word of Jehovah, you braggerts, you rulers of this people who are in Jerusalem. Because you have said, "we have concluded a covenant with Death, and with sheol we have effected a vision", "and your covenant with death will certainly be dissolved". "The overflowing flood with it passes through"

Would this go along with Hebrews 9:27 - "For it is reserved for men to die once, for all time, and after this a judgement, so also was Christ offered once to bear the sins for many, and the 2nd time that he appears it will be apart from sin and to offer salvation to those earnestly seeking him."

Basically, is there anywhere in the bible that shows that man will get atleast 1 physical death?

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If Jesus is Shiloh, then he is not the stone and shepherd, or vice versa is he?

by EndofMysteries in

a little project, unless anyone already has an answer for this.

gen 49:10, many take to be jesus, a few things mentioned, (the sceptre shall not depart from judah until shiloh comes, to him belong the obedience of the peoples.

he washed his garments in wine, his eyes shall be red with wine and his teeth white with milk) .

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Show me in the bible where Jesus is shown to be a decendant of Joseph, and then scriptures where a decendant of Judah.

I am also curious on some opinions on Shiloh, having teeth white because of milk and red eyes, in what way does that relate to Jesus and what it means?

Answering this for the most part requires personal answers, because I haven't been able to find much or teachings about this and explaining how both.

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If Jesus is Shiloh, then he is not the stone and shepherd, or vice versa is he?

by EndofMysteries in

a little project, unless anyone already has an answer for this.

gen 49:10, many take to be jesus, a few things mentioned, (the sceptre shall not depart from judah until shiloh comes, to him belong the obedience of the peoples.

he washed his garments in wine, his eyes shall be red with wine and his teeth white with milk) .

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when I mean unless already have an answer, I mean that if this is your first time seeing this, you'll probably have to do some personal study since the thought will probably be, "Wait, how can he be both?"

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If Jesus is Shiloh, then he is not the stone and shepherd, or vice versa is he?

by EndofMysteries in

a little project, unless anyone already has an answer for this.

gen 49:10, many take to be jesus, a few things mentioned, (the sceptre shall not depart from judah until shiloh comes, to him belong the obedience of the peoples.

he washed his garments in wine, his eyes shall be red with wine and his teeth white with milk) .

EndofMysteries

A little project, unless anyone already has an answer for this. Gen 49:10, many take to be Jesus, a few things mentioned, (The sceptre shall not depart from Judah until Shiloh comes, to him belong the obedience of the peoples. He washed his garments in wine, his eyes shall be red with wine and his teeth white with milk)

Now in Gen 49:22 JOSEPH's decendants are said to have the stone of Israel, the shepard, the true one from God. Jesus said he was the offshoot, the stone of Israel. Another interesting observation, the name of Jesus father (adopted I guess), is Joseph, and Josephs father is Jacob. (If you look up in Matt /Mark whichever book has the list)

If Jesus was of Joseph, or considered that, then who IS Shiloh? The being filled with wine and red blood eyes, seems either an executer and strict enforcer of God (Jesus could fit in the sense if he's leading the armies at Armageddon), OR being the teeth are white with milk (never progressing spiritually a babe and drunk) a slayer of God's true servants and like Babylon the Great.

I would like to see what others thoughts are about those 2 scriptures and if like most of the world believe Shiloh is Jesus, explain how both are, or if they are separate your thoughts on that.

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I don't get this! Does anyone?

by wannabe in

i thought that jehovah had his worshippers on this earth today!.

why does the prophecy of zephania make it look there'll be no survivors ar armageddon?

doesn't that sound very strange to anyone?

EndofMysteries

One theory of mine.......

Too tired to list all the scriptures, but since your doing reading you may find them or I'll post some tomorrow. When reading Revelation and all the other scriptures, imagine if during the 1,000 year reign, just "prior" to that, many plagues and things happen which reduce the world population almost to nothing. Prior to those events, those who proved faithful and understanding and true seekers of God are the ones ruling as Kings and Priests for the 1,000 years. (whether in heaven or literal earth) During this time, man still continues to age and die, but the world is having it's "golden age", and there is a true people and priesthood. At the end of the thousand year reign, Satan is released and misleads most of the earth, and as they go and surround the camp of the holy ones, then at this time is earths destruction by fire, when God says the heaven and earth pass away, then there are literal new earth with no sea (since no great flood), and God resides there hence why no sunlight needed, etc.

That's one theory from all the scriptures, in which possibly before thousand year reign their are survivors, but the scriptures about full destruction are at the end of it. Still a work in progress, still more reading and such to do, so I'm not 100% concluded.

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A bible I picked up, from 1901, has Jehovah in OT more then NWT

by EndofMysteries in

i was at a thrift store, and picking up some different bibles to compare, this is "the holy bible containing the old and new testaments translated out of the original tongues being the version set forth in ad 1611 compared with the most ancient authorites and revised ad 1881-1885 newly edited by the american revision committee ad 1901 standard edition new york thomas nelson and sons 381-385 fourth avenue george e day secretary of the old testament company and j henry thayer secretary of the new testament company, copyright 1901 by international council of religious education".

anyway, i was surprised to find a bible outside of nwt with jehovah everywhere in the ot, however i haven't found it once in the nt on this bible.

was this bible associated with the jw's at the turn of the century?.

EndofMysteries

I was at a thrift store, and picking up some different bibles to compare, this is "The Holy Bible containing the Old and New Testaments translated out of the original tongues being the version set forth in AD 1611 compared with the most ancient authorites and revised AD 1881-1885 Newly edited by the American Revision Committee AD 1901 Standard Edition New York Thomas Nelson and Sons 381-385 Fourth Avenue George E Day Secretary of the Old Testament Company and J Henry Thayer Secretary of the New Testament Company, copyright 1901 by International Council of Religious Education"

Anyway, I was surprised to find a bible outside of NWT with Jehovah everywhere in the OT, however I haven't found it once in the NT on this bible. Was this bible associated with the JW's at the turn of the century?

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Conference Call in 15 mins - some here may like to listen

by Gayle in

the watchtower organization is very much aware of what is going on in their false religion.

too many witnesses no longer believe their teachings to be biblically correct.

an intensive effort to discover disloyalty, subversion, and those causing divisions is now taking place.

EndofMysteries

Exactly, some of my relatives have said just wait. I said I haven't seen ANYTHING changed in the past 10/15 years, I asked them what is the "food at the proper time" the past...20 years. Answer? "Uhhh well the generation thing was cleared up." I said yea, after everyone is about dead, a way to push it off. How is it I learn more in a few hours of study on my own then in the past 20 years there? It's all just repeating the same things over and over and over again.

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Conference Call in 15 mins - some here may like to listen

by Gayle in

the watchtower organization is very much aware of what is going on in their false religion.

too many witnesses no longer believe their teachings to be biblically correct.

an intensive effort to discover disloyalty, subversion, and those causing divisions is now taking place.

EndofMysteries

That's quite interesting, and as for the best coarse of action, that too. I think I may be part of the witch hunt this week, we'll see. If only it was known how many are part of the conscious class, you also have many who would like to think they are part of the conscious class, yet must 'wait' for things to happen in it's correct time, and for the most part believe everything they are told.

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White horse of the Apocalypse... not Jesus??

by In in

revelation talks about four horses.

the verses in nwt say a seal is opened, and four horses ride forth.

the first is on a white horse.

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The first horse has a CROWN GIVEN it. This would be the "holy ones", "elect", "chosen ones", "warriors of God", a TRUE message of God being declared. Between all the early prophets down to Revelation, it seems to fit and make the most sense so far.

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Is the LAW still binding?!?!

by EndofMysteries in

this is kinda scary, for those who believe in the bible, first jesus said that he wasn't abolishing just fulfilling the law.

the penalty of sin is death, so he covers that.

many take that as most things are okay then.

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This is kinda scary, for those who believe in the bible, first Jesus said that he wasn't abolishing just fulfilling the law. The penalty of sin is death, so he covers that.

Many take that as most things are okay then. Then I see stuff like ISA 66:17, and ISA 65:3-7, and Malachi 4:4, it seems that they are talking about the last days, and Armageddon, and God never gave allowance for eating flesh of pig, broth of fowl (chicken broth?), eating the hopping rodent (rabbit?), that we are supposed to still follow that stuff? Those scriptures are talking about the last days, not like prior to Jesus, but the last days.

What is your take on this?