NEW LIGHT will soon come out. "Evidently the word "tithe" has been in the bible all along! Please open your silver swords and read the passage with us. See that!! It says it right there, 'tithe', you can't make that stuff up! Aren't we appreciate of the new light from the faithful slave, the GB, in opening our eyes that we should be giving them 10% of our earnings so the ticket to the new world is paid for as long as we also keep our time and meeting attendance up and make sure to pucker up to the faithful slaves heiney?"
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Do You Think 10% Tithing is Coming?
by xjwsrock infirstly, there are cash flow problems in wt town.
i don't think it's necessary to list all the cutbacks and layoffs, but there have been many.. their thirst for money seems higher too in my opinion.
more entitled may be a better way of putting it.
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Are baptisms under the age of 18 valid? Can one baptised/dedicated prior actually be dfed according to law?
by EndofMysteries inin a business law class i've been learning all about contracts.
i wonder if for all of those who were baptized prior to the age of 18, if the wt/elders could be forced on our insistence that our dedication/baptism as a minor was made without proper mental capacity and that it be declared invalid, henceforth having never been baptized then family,etc, would be free in wt's eyes to treat as any non-jw vs shunning as an ex-jw.
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In a business law class I've been learning ALL about contracts. I wonder if for all of those who were baptized prior to the age of 18, if the WT/elders could be forced on our insistence that our dedication/baptism as a minor was made without proper mental capacity and that it be declared invalid, henceforth having never been baptized then family,etc, would be free in WT's eyes to treat as any non-jw vs shunning as an ex-jw.
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Seems odd that the Bible never mentions Pryamids?
by dropoffyourkeylee indoesn't it seem strange that the bible never mentions the pyramids?
how could someone go to egypt at that time and not even so much as mention the huge monuments?
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fulltime - what you just posted would match with Jeremiah I think it was around chap 58 when he condemns them for worshipping the 'queen of the heavens' and making cakes and sacrifices for her, yet they reply that if they stop then bad things happen. -
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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Finally got to the end of this thread, and I was right, my last post wasn't resolved.
This comment though is about the intended topic of the thread and questions asked by people like cofty, etc, on respecting beliefs of others, what should be respected and to define how they should be respected. Here are my thoughts on that.
First, whether anybody likes it or not, on this forum those who believe in a higher power or afterlife and those who do not.
On respecting beliefs, one start would be to not hijack a thread from a group. If a believer starts a thread to discuss among believers, they are not inviting a debate or hijack to challenge their belief in a higher power or afterlife. So let them have their discussion. If the thread is about proof, debate, and trying to convert, etc, then that would invite debate. So bottom line, unless a thread is intended for debate, don't hijack it. Another example, if a believer in afterlife has a relative die and makes a thread about it and other believers are giving them comfort, no reason for somebody to try to prove there is no afterlife and it's dumb to believe that, etc. VS a thread that asks is there an afterlife or not, which would invite debate.
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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I've only read to page 7 as I add this comment but have a feeling by page 34 probably still isn't resolved....
Viviane says,
If I am insulting someone, well, then we should address that specifically, but so far you've not shown a single example of that.
Eden shows several examples of that by saying, "since you insist"
Her reply....
I insisted on nothing....Since we've already seen you fallaciously suggest someone insisted on something, explain in detail why anyone should trust another word you say?...Why, in other words, should not every word you speak be treated as suspect since you've already lied and said I insisted on something?
The synonyms for 'insist' include: be resolute about, be emphatic about, be adamant about, not take no for an answer about; informalstick to one's guns about.
Viviane was clearly 'insisting' on examples of her insulting someone. Previously Eden said he would not look up old threads but her resolute stance, adamant reply on showing examples, then after Eden does it saying he's lying about it and her bullying him afterwards if he won't take it back.
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Seems odd that the Bible never mentions Pryamids?
by dropoffyourkeylee indoesn't it seem strange that the bible never mentions the pyramids?
how could someone go to egypt at that time and not even so much as mention the huge monuments?
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Some other really interesting things, has anybody ever heard of the "Ipuwer Papyrus"? It details plagues, including the river being blood.
The 12th dynasty instead of the 18th dynasty, events and circumstances line up with bible events if it happened. Moses picked up and adopted by the queen who couldn't bear children, Sobekneferu.
They did have slaves around that time know as Asiatics.
The Armarna tablets asking for armies and help from Egypt because the "Habiru" or "Apiru" are conquering the lands.
The magicians who threw down their rods and they became serpents, in the liverpool musuem from the 12th dynasty a cobra magican rod.
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Seems odd that the Bible never mentions Pryamids?
by dropoffyourkeylee indoesn't it seem strange that the bible never mentions the pyramids?
how could someone go to egypt at that time and not even so much as mention the huge monuments?
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Fulltime - I posted that stuff though because it does make sense on time frame. If they were enslaved and released, then it would take them 3 to 5 days max to walk to the red sea. If Pharoh changed his mind and send an army on chariots, then it would mean it would be 2 or 3 days later and they would have caught up to them at the Red Sea.
Chariots would need roads, if no road to Palestine, as there would not be since supposedly that would be under control of the tough canannites then it wouldn't happen. But there was likely a road to the red sea due to close proximity to Cairo and for bringing in fish, etc.
Also having rechecked, in Ex 1:11 it says they build for them 'supply cities' Pithom and Raamses. Looking up the cities, this is supposedly some ruins of Pithom, which most definitely show bricks made from mud vs the limestone blocks from a quarry on the pyramids. A 10th century Jewish scholar supposedly identified Faiyum as the city of Pithom.
Some things to wonder....whoever wrote it all definitely would have had a good knowledge of those areas and the distances to make it up. And if all of it was made up, how did the Jewish people suddenly one day get duped into the passover and their deliverance from Egypt?
Seems like something had to happen, even if exaggerations. Similar to tell somebody a story and have them pass it down and whether the story is identical after 10 people, etc.
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Seems odd that the Bible never mentions Pryamids?
by dropoffyourkeylee indoesn't it seem strange that the bible never mentions the pyramids?
how could someone go to egypt at that time and not even so much as mention the huge monuments?
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O and further.....the Israelites if slaves, were building bricks from mud and straw. The Pyramids of Gizah were made from limestone blocks, not bricks. -
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Seems odd that the Bible never mentions Pryamids?
by dropoffyourkeylee indoesn't it seem strange that the bible never mentions the pyramids?
how could someone go to egypt at that time and not even so much as mention the huge monuments?
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Seems odd that the Bible never mentions Pryamids?
by dropoffyourkeylee indoesn't it seem strange that the bible never mentions the pyramids?
how could someone go to egypt at that time and not even so much as mention the huge monuments?
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It's only 350 miles from Cairo to Jerusalem. I walked 110 miles through the alps in 7 days, so walking flat terrain a straight shot would only take 3 or 4 weeks at a slow pace.
The countries are literally neighbors so if Egyptians did have slave labor, their next door neighbor wouldn't be a stretch.
Cairo to the red sea is only 84 miles, 3 to 5 days walk. Right on the other side of the Red Sea is Mt Sinai region.
If they could not enter Israel, and were not wandering or in the Egyptian area, then that would have left Jordan. The Wadi Rum Desert or maybe even the ancient city of Petra.
Aside from written evidence and if anything happened as said, at the very least the locations, etc, don't seem far fetched at all.
