Hope it works out for you. When I first got out I attended one as well then I moved. It was nice, had a potluck meal, and good conversation every other week.
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Bible Group in Boston
by Agape.Love inhappy easter!
my husband and i who are former jws are starting a new bible discussion group on sundays @1pm, south of boston.
we will begin the group on sunday may 3rd.
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Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?
by EndofMysteries infrom so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.
i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.
to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.
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From so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in Theology, Physics, Biology, etc. I'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.
To start, I just got an AA and going straight through full time to an MBA. (Masters Business Administration) Classes in my AA related to many conversation topics would be World Religion, Astronomy, and Biology as part of the general education requirements.
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The Science Is In: God Is The Answer...
by OUTLAW inthe science is in: god is the answer.
research shows kids raised with spirituality are happier and healthier in the vulnerable teen years.
why arent we all signing up?.
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I didn't read anything because I have to leave now but besides marking this, I know it's partly true. I recently read some studies comparing 'spiritual' people and yoga/monks. They did brain scan studies, etc.
Meditation, relaxation, etc, has many good effects. Stress and worry does kill people and lead to heart conditions etc.
Here is where religion can help and can not help.
PRO: Comfort, loved ones death, if life situation is depressing then hope, etc. Esp if living in extreme poverty and no way out of it.
CON: If like with JW religion, constant worry, depression, etc.
Anyway I'll read the post later and reply.
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Some Questions About Jesus
by Coded Logic inwhy didn't jesus ever write anything?
why are there no letters to jesus?
no painting of jesus from that time?
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Some Questions About Jesus
by Coded Logic inwhy didn't jesus ever write anything?
why are there no letters to jesus?
no painting of jesus from that time?
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The names of his disciples are not those found the Bible. He was killed by the Sanhedrin, not the Romans, contrary to the Bible. He was killed for religious crimes, not the the crime of sedition as recorded in the Bible.
So, the ONLY similarities are Jesus, Jewish and some disciples. More details, major details, differ than agree. Maybe it is talking about the same man, but it is certainly largely disagreeing with the Bible on most major points.This is all about a historical Jesus, not about the accuracy of the bible as we have it today. But whether there was a real historical Jesus. As for who killed him, the Romans may have carried out the deed, but it was the Sanhedrin who ordered it. Unless you can find any historical documents talking about a man like Jesus that ALL jews embraced and that none of them were calling for him to be put to death, but that the Romans themselves did this, then it stands it really was the Jews responsible for it. Even the ancient contemporary scholars as my previous posts show they believed that as well.
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Some Questions About Jesus
by Coded Logic inwhy didn't jesus ever write anything?
why are there no letters to jesus?
no painting of jesus from that time?
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First, he never said "crucified", so attempting to associate "crucified" with "executed" is disingenuous at best. Secondly, Jesus was crucified by the Romans, not Jews. Third, he NEVER mentions Jesus. You saying he does is completely untrue.
I fixed crucified before you had replied, but yes he said murdered. Now as for the Romans killing him, the Romans were an instrument. Who called for this death? The Romans didn't just grab Jesus and kill him on their own, it was the religious leaders of the Jews who coerced Pilate into doing it. Pilate washed his hands and obviously scholars of that time put it on Jews.
IF the 'wise king' who the Jews murdered, then their city was ABOLISHED shortly after, was not Jesus, then who was it? Was socrates a figment of the imagination? Mara is asserting that the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD happened not too long after the murder of the Wise King of the Jews. As he did disasters that befell those who killed Socrates. So if it's not Jesus, who else fits the bill?
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Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)
by Simon insickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".
"oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?
you're fired!"..
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http://tribuneherald.net/2013/08/23/kkk-wins-lawsuit-against-bakery-for-discrimination/
I think this is the only and first comment of yours I've ever liked and laughed at haha. Nice find.
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Some Questions About Jesus
by Coded Logic inwhy didn't jesus ever write anything?
why are there no letters to jesus?
no painting of jesus from that time?
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He refers to A wise king but never names him or otherwise indicates he in talking about Jesus. Your claim is 100% untrue.
He said, "Their Wise King". Not "a" Wise King. The sign on Jesus cross said, "King of the Jews". Tell me another historical figure that non Jews place among names such as Socrates that the Jews had murdered and could be considered a wise king? O and in context, he was talking about the catastrophes that happened after said events. What happened in 'the generation' that saw Jesus killed to Jerusalem? So who else matches those descriptions since you claim since he didn't specify the name, Jesus, that it can be somebody else?
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Some Questions About Jesus
by Coded Logic inwhy didn't jesus ever write anything?
why are there no letters to jesus?
no painting of jesus from that time?
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mocking christians not talking about Jesus
Not talking about Jesus? Who is the man he says they worship? Who is the distinguished personage who introducted their rites and was crucified? Who was their original lawgiver?
“The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day—the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account….You see, these misguided creatures start with the general conviction that they are immortal for all time, which explains the contempt of death and voluntary self-devotion which are so common among them; and then it was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws. All this they take quite on faith, with the result that they despise all worldly goods alike, regarding them merely as common property.” (Lucian, The Death of Peregrine. 11-13)
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Some Questions About Jesus
by Coded Logic inwhy didn't jesus ever write anything?
why are there no letters to jesus?
no painting of jesus from that time?
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Mara Bar-Serapion
He never mentioned Jesus.Really? Which of the jews wise king did they murder then?
What did the sign post on Jesus cross say? John 19:19 if you forgot.
Mara Bar-Serapion refers to Jesus as the “Wise King”:
“What benefit did the Athenians obtain by putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as judgment for their crime. Or, the people of Samos for burning Pythagoras? In one moment their country was covered with sand. Or the Jews by murdering their wise king?…After that their kingdom was abolished. God rightly avenged these men…The wise king…Lived on in the teachings he enacted.