Crazyguy, what's on the inovice is NOT what the dealer pays for the car. There are all sorts of back room deals that don't show up on the invoice. Accounting for a car dealership is a real zoo.
Posts by JeffT
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20Who negotiates a lower price when buying a new vehicle?
by hoser ini don't.
whatever the sticker says on the side of the window is the price i pay.
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Speculation on why now?
by Crazyguy inin the last couple of years the org has gone money crazy, selling off over a billion dollars worth of property and now a new tithing program.
just wonder what every one thinks is the reason for all this now?.
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JeffT
Putting assets where they can't be reached in a civil lawsuit is a lot harder than DOC seems to think. Lawyers are very good at locating assets that can be attached. Money in a bank in the Cayman islands doesn't do you much could if you can't take it out to spend it.
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Comstock Sign Systems!
by Atlantis incomstock sign systems .
http://www.comstocksigns.com/files/kingdom-hall-signs.pdf .
.. petra.
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JeffT
Interesting. I noted that on their website, Comstock says they make all kinds of signs, but the only link to a catalog is for JW related stuff. I agree, it looks like they have a nice little deal going on here.
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New Study On Alzheimers And Coconut Oil
by metatron inhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24150106.
there have been a number of dramatic anecdotal accounts about coconut oil and alzheimers but this is the first clinical study (favorable) that i am aware of.. .
metatron.
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JeffT
What is described in that abstract is not a clinical study.
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The REAL reason for the elder and ms appointment change......
by EndofMysteries inas seen in recent posts, beginning later this year appointments and deletions of elders and ms will only happen through the circuit overseer.
this means that individual congregations and elders have no say anymore.
if the gb want only certain people in or out, they tell the co and he makes it happen.
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JeffT
Plausible deniability is a political, not legal, concept. As I said on the other thread, I've seen big corporations sued for actions by low level managers. "We didn't know about it" and "we didn't hire that individual" are not defenses that will fly in court. The courts take a position that a corporation is responsible for the actions of all their employees. In order to break that link (in my opinon) would be for the GB to give real autonomy to the local congregations, something I don't see them doing.
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The REAL reason for the elder and ms appointment change......
by EndofMysteries inas seen in recent posts, beginning later this year appointments and deletions of elders and ms will only happen through the circuit overseer.
this means that individual congregations and elders have no say anymore.
if the gb want only certain people in or out, they tell the co and he makes it happen.
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JeffT
As I said on another thread, I don't think this relieves the corporation of liability.
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Letter Read At Special Talk
by scotoma inthe watchtower arranged to have a letter read announcing that elders would now be apponted by circuit overseers.. any elders on this forum know how this will be different from the current arrangement for appointing elders.. it would be nice to see a schematic with boxes showing how it used to be and how it will be in the future..
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JeffT
I would be interested in hearing from BOTR on this. I don't think this relieves them of organizational responibilty in a court of law. They might not appoint the guy, but they are still responsible for what he does on the job. I've seen big corporations sued for something done by a manager in the field when nobody at corporate even knew the individual.
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What if Everyone Demaded Answers About Where the Money is and What it is Used For?
by TTATTelder inwhat if right in the middle of rolling out their latest money-grabbing scheme, there was an uprising demanding financial transparency?.
i thought jehovah was a god of organization and numbers.
isn't that why we report time and have all these annual reports?.
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JeffT
Kate, unless they've changed their methods since I left, the financial reports at a KH are not transparent nor are they complete. It may just be that they're dumbed down so the window washers can figure out how to fill them out, or it's possible they're designed to obscure the money trail.
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What if Everyone Demaded Answers About Where the Money is and What it is Used For?
by TTATTelder inwhat if right in the middle of rolling out their latest money-grabbing scheme, there was an uprising demanding financial transparency?.
i thought jehovah was a god of organization and numbers.
isn't that why we report time and have all these annual reports?.
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JeffT
This is standard operating procedure in mainstream churches. The financial sheet was posted in the church so anyone could read it. They also had a financial committee open to all members. The problem was that lay people had no idea how to read a financial statement.
The WT would be transparent if all members demanded it. We are taught that we are not good enough to even review something.
A few years ago my wife and I attended a large non-denominational church, my wife directed and taught in their preschool. They had a "fair" where all the various ministries set up tables to show what they did. I spotted the church CFO sitting behind a table containing several copies of the most recent audited financial statements. Nobody was looking at the reports. I picked one up and the first thing I did was look at the auditors statement to see who had done the audit, it was a Big 6 firm. I then started reading the report. At that point the CFO says "your're an accountant, aren't you." I said yes, and he said he could tell because nobody else attempted to read the report.
That's too bad, because the fact that the financial statements are out there signals a higher degree of transparency. And learning how to read them isn't that hard. (If anybody wants to learn, PM me I used to teach non-accountant mangers how to do it, I think I still have my notes.)
The fact that the WTBS goes out of its way to hide this information leads me to believe there is stuff there they don't want any one to know about.
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I skipped the meeting again!! Wife gives me a look I have never seen...
by DATA-DOG ini had a rough day of physical work and was tired and cold.
i decided to stay home and rest.
when my wife found out, a very strange look swept over her face for just an instant.
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JeffT
Stories like this make me realize how fotunate I am that my wife and I left together, and apparently what a rare occurance this is.