Posts by JCanon

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The hidden Watchtower writers.

by edmond dantes in

the watchtower smoke and mirrors dept.

are very fond of saying that appostates who post on the internet are like satan in eden hiding their identity just like the devil who used the serpent.. this begs the question why do the awake and watchtower writers need to hide behind the printing presses of the evil tower, what are they ashamed of or more to the point what is the govening body frightened of ?.

maybe the book club and rip off society are guilty of identity theft in not declaring the names of their writers..

JCanon

You already know the answer to this. They don't want readers to give undue attention to an author. If they keep it anonymous, readers will be less reminded that it is fallible men who are writing the articles.

Right. I was going to mention the same thing. There is that quirky little traditional history with the WTS on this point. They didn't like taking credit for their articles. That was established during the Russell age. Of course, JF Rutherford was such an egotistical maniac he took personal credit for every single book that came out during his presidency and plastered his photo on his albums. He totally ignored this sense of modesty. The WTS was clearly embarrassed by it. So after he died, they went back to the original policy. But in a way, it adds a mysticism to it, with them claiming this is channeled through Jehovah. Even though they call it idolatry to call Russell the "Faithful and Wise Servant" they still use that time to apply to the leadership of the WTS. So they just exchanged a one-headed god for a multi-headed mystery god. It is still idoaltry, especially when they are not the FDS but the evil slave. So, again, it may not be that they are particularly hiding or following WTS tradition not to draw attention to individuals. This is also why, unfortunately, they discourage setting up choirs, even though the temple had choirs, trained singers. That's because singers draw attention to themselves as well. So they might have over did it on that point because singing is supposed to be part of worship, and people express joy through dancing as well. But at least there is no individual who is a "charismatic leader", it's the continuing leadership of the GB. If I were going to do an anti-JW flier or campaign, my targets would be the leadership. But I'm sure they read all this stuff anyway and monitor it. They might even participate. So when I talk on the boards I asume someone from the WTS Headquarters is reading this stuff. JC

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JESUS isn't BUSY!!!

by Terry in

all of creation groaned for his arrival with anguish and anticipaton!.

the great and the small prepared for his coming with awe and keen gladness.. then, 1914!!

war broke out in heaven and satan was cast down to earth.. the birth of god's kingdom!!.

JCanon

You're obviously intelligent. So you'll understand this.
I flunked this one.

No you didn't, Terry. You just don't want to look at this. ANYBODY can see how easy it is to understand some things once it is explained to them. It is very fundamental. And what's more, it is so clear that you can see where the WTS is teaching falsely. Here's just one more try for you: In Revelation a woman gives birth to a child, the messiah, quite clearly. She is in fear. She flees from Satan to a place in the wilderness where he cannot reach her. Satan disgorges a river to try and drown her though. This doesn't work because the earth comes to swallow up that river. In the meantime, her child-messiah is caught up to God. Now what does this or could this symbolize? Now if you were criticizing the WTS' explanation who thinks this woman is God's heavenly wife, you'd easily see this is not the case. That's because, for one, if Satan is kicked out of Heaven, how possibly is Satan a threat to anybody in heaven? Further, didn't Michael and those same angels just fight with Satan and kick Satan out of heaven along with 1/3 of the angels? So why NOW are they so afraid of Satan that they are running from him? And is the "wilderness" representing some secretive place in heaven where Satan cannot attack her? Again? At this point Satan is no longer in heaven. And what about the river? Clearly false propaganda, but the angels loyal to Jehovah have rejected Satan's false propaganda already, how are they influenced? You see? It doesn't work. But what does it actually best tell us? Well the Bible says: "Rejoice you heavens and woe to the earth!" So this womanly organization if on the earth, would be vulnerable to Satan who comes with great anger. She would need a place to hide, so God does so in the wilderness. See? You agree with me already? I'm making sense, right? Okay... The river Satan disgorges is all this pseudo-scientific intellectual double-talk that contradicts the Bible. But the Bible itself and more stable evidence swallows up this river that might have drowned her. Like all the evidence from the NB Period records supporting the current timeline that is you check it out can be dated to later periods and later "copies" that were revised, etc. Or the VAT4956's attempt to hide what the original chronology was. It swallows up all the arguments about why 587 BCE was the true date for the fall of Jerusalem, etc. Plus she believes in the Bible first, so if the Bible contradicts these arguments, no matter how convincing, they don't work on her. If the Bible says man is less than 5,000 years old and some scientific theory comes up with something that contradicts that, they just reject it, presuming the scientists aren't competent enouch to understand their own evidence--whatever. Further, obviously, this woman must be Christ's followers who have a secret life hidden from the dragon. That's not that hard to understand. But what about the child-messiah? Easy! This is just one of her members that have been chosen to be the messiah. His being caught up to God represents his being transferred to the bosom position of the Father, like Lazarus. But at this point, indeed, one might be confused becuase now you have TWO messiahs. One born from the earth from this secret society of the woman and Michael in heaven whose already there. How can this be? I then come in and answer it. I say, that at the second coming, which is the context of these things, Satan being kicked out of heaven, et. Christ is combined with the earthly messiah and they become ONE! Thus this is the means by which Christ enters the human family again and becomes one of them, by taking up the identity of this willing volunteer for this task. So ultimately, you only have a two-messiah situation from the time that second messiah is born until that final instant when they become one together. Per the Bible this happens in 1992 when you have the corrected chronology from the NB Period or you just calculate 45 years after the Jews are restored to Palestine in 1947, which is an easier reference. See? The Bible shows us that. That the messiah is in the imperfect flesh at the second coming is indicated by the Pentecost wave offering of leavened bread. It is different than the first time, of unleavened bread. Not hard. Very consistent. No problem. Also, God confirms this is truly the messiah and identifies him by a heavenly sign called the "sign of the Son of man." Well, did that sign appear? Yup! Sure did. I have a photograph of the actual sign! And the WTS clearly knows about it and that it has been appearing to the anointed, but of course, it references this in Freemason style, which is in cryptic artwork. More of their Freemasonry, Knights Templar training. http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/signson001jpg.JPG Now is that all that difficult? At this point there is nothing really sensational about how Christ arrives in the flesh at the second coming other than the profound choice God made. But think! Jesus as the Bride Class of "144,000" (actually 1,440,000) have to rule the earth as king-priests for ONE THOUSAND YEARS! Doesn't it make sense they would be on the earth to do this, rather than in heaven? How can you rule from heaven in a direct way to your individual constituencies? So, of course, these king-priests are on the earth and in the flesh. But once you get to this point, where it is clear how the Bible represents the second king-priest arrival of the messiah. You are curious as to really did the messiah arrive, right? Well you know about WHEN he has to arrive, which is during 1992-1993. But how do you identify him? Does the Bible give any clues? YES. 1. He's black, looking like an Ethiopian or Egyptian. 2. He's obviously effeminate, a eunuch, and gay, since he is impaled in "Sodom." 3. If you interpret the Rich Man as the GB, then you can see there is a connection with JWs. 4. If you combine the subtle references as to why the prodigal son and Lazarus leave God and become spiritually dead, you discover it is due to homosexuality issues, and that apparently at one point it involves Lazarus having a weakness for straight men to whom he prostitutes himself, since a "dog" in the Bible represents straight men who like drag queens, basically, in ancient times. So you have a direct potentiality of the chosen messiah being a former transvestite. But at the same time, you can understand why this prodigal son is chosen. He's like Paul who was busy persecuting the Christians and was focussed and then Jesus thought: "Hey! I need this guy on MY side!!" So he recurited him. The prodigal son has hat in hand, ready to be just one of the servants, clearly humbled and willing to do anything to get back in God's favor. So God, being very smart, had him sign an agreement that he's accept any assignment and next thing he knows he's the next messiah. But at that point it's too late, right? He's already said any job is not too much, so he couldn't back out at this point. But it's fine, because who wouldn't want to be the messiah. Plus it involves what Lazarus loved the most, which is crtical and intensive research!! Lazarus loves knowledge, especially anything relating to the Bible, Bible history, etc. But you know, you kind of need a motivated person to be hiding out from assasins all the time, whatever. You need a person who is open to accommodate dealing with a lot of people, etc. which I knew that drill because I was an actor on stage before and I know that can be an opportunity to be gracious and kind but that it's demanding of your time. It's pleasant if you LIKE people. I like people. And I like everyday people. I just LOVE riding the bus and being with other people who ride the bus. That's why I loved Hawaii! I didn't have a car and the bus takes you everywhere, even though if you have the time you can ride your bide or walk; it's absolutely beautiful and usually the weather is great. If it rains, who cares, it's still warm. In a way I'm a lot like Diana Ross. She actually loves her audience. So she likes going into the audience and interacting with them. I don't know of any other star that can actually do that. Same with me. I just loved going into the audience for part of my performance. It was just fun being close to the people. So it's great I'm the messiah because people interest me, and not just the rich and talented, but the everyday person who has their own hidden beauty to discover. So, it's just NEAT! So you're pretening to be smart when you reject me and you pretend to be dumb when I try to explain things, but that's just your own defense mechanism being in denial that the Bible is true and that the chronologyh works and that everything is on-board except the WTS who got rejected. The WTS is false, but not the Bible. You are experiencing the SURPRISE ENDING Jehovah planned. The messiah sneaks up on you because he's like a thief? Just as the Bible said. As soon as more people catch on that I MIGHT be the true messiah, esspecially in the context of the WTS, not the believers that already know and believe but outsiders who suddenly want to acknowledge me, then Armageddon will soon arrive. Should be interesting and dramatic but it's already been that. The primary feeling will be that they waited this long to get to this point. You know, I was a low priority earlier, now I will become a primary priority. It's a lot of power to control the entire Christian world, is it not, especially their religious conscience, with political aims to rule the world as well. That won't make the current rulers very happy. Everybody wants their turn at bat, but the time for the world to be up to the plate is now expired. It's time for God to rule for 1000 years and see how that works out. Don't worry! I'll be a good messiah! I know I'm gay but I'm not going to have the earth painted pink!!! Not to worry! PInk is out! I was thinking more in terms of chartreuse or magenta! Should be fun!!! Everybody is going to wear madi gras beads and learn how to sing karaoke! I know, you can't wait, right? UR in denial.... that won't last. JC

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How "Bible Prophecy" Will Soon Be Disproven!

by metatron in

it's very simple: all this 'prophetic' ( or pathetic) nonsense about "anglo-america" is going to come to an end in a few years.. china has already become the world's biggest exporter:.

http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/06/0905/art1.html.

in ten years, they will become the largest economy - with the biggest population.

JCanon

You can't DISPROVE something that has already come true. I'll skip the details but give you a for instance. Two-thirds of the Jews were supposed to be exterminated between 1940-1947 per the Bible. They were.

The State of Israel was supposed to be established per the Bible in 1947-1948. It was. 1947 is connected to 29 CE.

http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/jcovwk1996G.GIF (Jewish Covenant Week Chart)

If you have been granted understanding the Bible then things are happening right on time.

The "sign of the son of man" was supposed to begin to appear shortly after the State of Israel is set up. I have a photo of that sign!

http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/signson001jpg.JPG

So the Bible isn't working out for YOU, maybe, but the fact that the GB of JWs was prophesied to become apostate is working out for me! Things are happening right on time per the Bible. Everything is true so far. It cannot be disproven at this point; too many prophecies are behind us and already fulfilled!!

JC

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How "Bible Prophecy" Will Soon Be Disproven!

by metatron in

it's very simple: all this 'prophetic' ( or pathetic) nonsense about "anglo-america" is going to come to an end in a few years.. china has already become the world's biggest exporter:.

http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/06/0905/art1.html.

in ten years, they will become the largest economy - with the biggest population.

JCanon

It's very simple: All this 'prophetic' ( or pathetic) nonsense about "Anglo-America" is going to come to an end in a few years.

China is not mentioned specifically in the Bible that I can recognize, but it wouldn't because most of the Bible is focussed on the Christian world and a lot is pertinent to the WTS, believe it or not!

But China's situation is conducive to what is next expected to happen on a global scale. That is, when the UN destroys the influence of the Illuminati over key organizations in the world. In the process the recognition of organized religion will cease. I see that as a reasonable position if China becomes part of the UN (are they yet?) Chistianity won't mean that much to them so outlawing all religion might seem consistent with where the world is headed now, which is a global government to manage a global economy.

Even so, the unavoidable demise of the Ango-America world power seems a good indication the Armageddon is near as well.

So, it is not "nonsense" to those who are true prophets. It makes no-sense to those who don't understand the Bible.

JC

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How "Bible Prophecy" Will Soon Be Disproven!

by metatron in

it's very simple: all this 'prophetic' ( or pathetic) nonsense about "anglo-america" is going to come to an end in a few years.. china has already become the world's biggest exporter:.

http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/06/0905/art1.html.

in ten years, they will become the largest economy - with the biggest population.

JCanon

Hmm. People born in 1914 or who were around to see the events of 1914 are dying out. Soon they will all be dead. There really is no indication that the world is about to end. It's going on exactly as it has been for thousands and thousands of years. What's going to happen when all of the remaining anointed are dead? What's this? Now they say that there will always be anointed on the earth and, furthermore, the cutoff date is apparently no longer 1935. This has been set up to continue indefinitely!

Yes, you might think that if you have the wrong information. If you have the RIGHT information, you're not so skeptical. The corrected view of the above is:

1. The "end of the system of things" is not a reference to Armageddon as many think. But the end of the current Jewish system of things under gentile rule, thus the "end of the system of things" is synonymous with the "end of the gentile times." So the generation that must begin with a world war, and thus in 1914, can be a 40-year generation that sees the end of the gentile times which occurred in 1947! So someone who has that interpretation sees the Bible fulfilled. For them the "end" has already arrived since they know the "end" is when the Jews are restored to their homeland.

2. They also know the second coming will happen very quietly exactly 45 years after the end of the gentile times. That is, the gentile ends the trampling of Jerusalem and the Jews and thus ends the 1290 days. The messiah arrives to fulfill the 1335 days, 45 years later. So 45 years after the State of Israel is reborn is when the messiah would arrive: 1992-1993. That is fulfilled for us who understand scripture and now chronology, so everything is right on schedule.

3. After the second coming, which is the time Satan is also kicked out of heaven, the Bible says Christ will be gathering the anointed ones and sealing them while Satan has a "short while". Well, I know a "short while" is a subjective abount of time, but a generation is 40 years, and so it hasn't been even half that time since 1992; 20 years will be reached in 2012, so we're still looking at a relatively "short time" that Satan is allowed to still deceive the world. Further, the Bible says it won't be LATE, but alludes to it seeming "delayed." That's basically because of Jehovah and Christ who know the longer they wait the more potential people might be saved a the last minute. So why not cut it close? It doesn't hurt those already in the kingdom to wait for others to be saved, right? So we''re still right on target with the fulfillment of prophecy.

IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER YOU HAVE THE RIGHT INTERPRETATION if Bible prophecy is being fulfilled. For me, it is completely fulfilled in every last detail.

JC

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JESUS isn't BUSY!!!

by Terry in

all of creation groaned for his arrival with anguish and anticipaton!.

the great and the small prepared for his coming with awe and keen gladness.. then, 1914!!

war broke out in heaven and satan was cast down to earth.. the birth of god's kingdom!!.

JCanon

Hi Terry!

Interpretation is everything. If you have the wrong interpretation, then your results will seem unfulfilled.

You're obviously intelligent. So you'll understand this. In the Bible it mentions these four beasts that come out of the sea. A Lion, a Bear, a 4-winged Leopared, and an ambiguous 4th beast not like the others. Now most interpret this as another example of successive world powers. But in fact, all these beasts exist together. We know this because the 4th beast is killed before the other three, who is said to have given up their power at that time. That means they had the power before the 4th beast was killed, right? Thus these are actively ruling entities!

Further, the beasts don't interact with each other. When the Bible described the Medo-Persian Empire overthrown by Greece, represented by a he-goat killing a ram, the he-goat kills and thus replaces the ram. That is successive! You have one power ruling at a time.

But the WTS and many others don't realize that these four beasts who don't interact with each other and where the first three mentioned survive the 4th cannot be successive! These are clearly 4 concurrent entities existing at the same time. I can explain what they are, but that's not the point here. The point is, if you were expecting fulfillment with successfive world powers then you don't see the actual fulfillment of these 4 beasts as concurrent powers! Therefore, you think the Bible is not fulfilled. But the problem is simply misinterpretation of the reference.

So whether the Bible is truy or whether Jesus is busy or not is a matter of perspective and Biblical interpretation. For some the Christ they are expecting has not arrived. For others he has arrived and fulfilling every detail of prophecy, including WHEN he would arrive. The Bible is a book of confusion and disappointment for some, but a book of amazing fulfilled prophecies for others.

JC

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Watchtower Comments THE GENERATION CHANGE Featuring LEOLAIA

by V in

JCanon

Good comment Mary. You are right on the money!

How did his disciples see Jesus leave? Was it with 'the eye of understanding? Was it an 'invisible departure'?? No---they saw him leave with their literal eyes and it was a visible departure. Gosh! Imagine that!! He only disappeared from their view when he reached the heavens itself. Verse 11 is quite clear that His return would be visible, just as His departure was.

I would only add here to be more specific. That is, Jesus never reappeared in his own body, that is, the one that his disciples recognized as him. He was always in multiple bodies that looked like other people. So when he ascended into heaven, what they saw was Jesus in someone elses appearance. This was a hint that when Christ returned in the flesh and they would see him, they wouldn't recognize him being in his original body, but disguised in someone else's body, essentially. That is, at the second coming he would not appear as himself but as someone else.

But if we were going to be absolutely specific, if the last body image Jesus occupied was as he would return, then he would be in the body similar to the body he would return in, that is, of the Ethiopian eunuch. Thus he must have appeared as the Ethiopian eunuch looking very similar to me in appearance when he ascended. So that some who saw him off, which would be some who would survive down to our day, would recognize that specific body that last ascended. I suppose as a confirmation that Jesus would reappear in that body. So, Jesus apparently looked like me in his last body.

Another scripture that proves that Jesus would be in the flesh is 1 John 3:2. The first resurrection is back into the imperfect flesh. That is, seed of the resurrected one is sown into the body of a modern anointed one (1 Corinthians 15:40-54). That Jesus would have a similar nature in a physical body is stated here: " 2 Beloved ones, now we are children of God, but as yet it has not been made manifest what we shall be. We do know that whenever he is made manifest we shall be like him, because we shall see him just as he is."

Besides that, the antichrist's expression would be that he would not arrive in the flesh, so that means the WTS is definitely the antichrist.

Thanks for your comments on the physical visibility of Christ.

By the way, when it says "EVERY eye will see him" it is in the context of those of the "eagle" organizations. "Where the carcass is, so the eagles will be gathered." So Christ was promising that all of them would see either Jesus directly and/or the "sign of the son of man" which is the sleeping face of the messiah, over which they beat themselves in lamentation. It doesn't mean every single person on the planet. That the "sign" has been seen by many of the anointed and understood to represent Christ's return as an Ethiopian eunuch and prodigal son, it ended up being in the artwork of the "Revelation" book...

http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/signson001jpg.JPG
So this was fulfilled by those seeing the sign. But as far as seeing the messiah directly, he would not be a public figure except for a short time like a flash of LIGHTENING! Lightening shines bright but only for a split second! Thus at one point, though the followers of Christ would not announce to the world where he is, they would get a chance to see him directly but in a situation that would still not give him away to non-believers as being the messiah. Obviuosly, if a group of people were gathered around the messiah it would be clear they were pointing him out. So this part of the appearance like "lightening" was fulfilled in two ways: 1) By a short appearance on national television, and 2) by performing in public from the East Coast to Hawaii within a year. Thus it was possible to see the messiah either in person or on TV for a short time when he became a semi-public figure. At one point, if you wanted to, you could purchase a ticket on Ticketron in New York and come and see me in person in a totally anonymous scenario. That is, with me on stage and you in the audience. I even opened for Milton Berle once, who was JIOR, so he got to see me as well. I didn't understand then why we ended up together alone at the airport but I understand now. NH Knorr was also JIOR and I ended up shaking his hand at an assembly once. Diana Ross, Berry Gordy and Smokey Robinson are also JIOR and I've met and shoot their hands once. And Eddie Murphy who is a JIOR ended up sitting in the front fow of a play at the Mark Taper Forum when I was there sitting nearby, so I got to see him up close. The late Loretta Young was also JIOR and I got a chance to hold her Academy Award. I never met her though. But I assisted an author in writing her book so I found out a lot of things I needed to know about Hollywood that was important.
So Jehovah is doing a lot of things on a lot of different levels with the JIOR. Of course, OJ Simpson is JIOR as well and holy spirit manipulated things in connection with this frame-up by the "Illuminati" (ultimately) of the murders (i.e. making OJ go crazy and going on that Bronco chase which alerted the whole world to what was going on, compromising the secret operations of this set-up; causing Ron to rush home first before arriving at the crime scene which cut down the time available to get blood evidence back to OJ so that he had blood evidence on him when he went to Chicago which would prove he had time to commit the murders, etc. There was not enough time to get the bloody clothes or weapon back to Rockingham before he left, so they just vanished into thin air, obviously.)
A lot of thnings in the Bible are for the JIOR to understand or for me to point out the understanding, but the rest of the world cannot understand it or will always look at several other alternatives. For instance, the "little horn" mentioned as part of the 4th beast, which represents the Illuminati/Freemasonry defaces three other horns. That represents the assasinations of MLK, JFK and RFK. Three famous assasinations, all with the same earmark of the "lone assasin" when everybody knows it was conspiracy. But by this the Bible identifies the "little horn" as the CIA, only as a branch of the Illuminati. Of coursse, you can find anywhere where the CIA is accused of killing the Kennedys or the FBI being behind the assasination of MLK. But what is interesting is the CIA is seen as a horn of the Illuminati. Thus when you investigate, you find an inordinate number of FBI or CIA who are mormons, and movies like "The Good Shepherd" that shows the CIA was created by Skull and Bones, etc.
http://www.lds-mormon.com/time.shtml
Just Google "Mormons FBI CIA" and do all the reading you wish.
JC

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leolaia said Isaiah 3:16-17

by blkblk13 in

mentions michael helping jesus out of his tomb.

i looked up that scripture didn't find anything that talked about that.

does anyone know the actuall scripture she was talking about?

JCanon

dear blkblk13...
in dan 12:1 michael stands up during the tribulation...in mark 13:24-27 (the second coming)...THEY will see the the Son of Man coming in the clouds with power and great glory...question: in apocalyptic literature who is represented by stars?... hint not JESUS
love michelle

Generally, in cosmological terms, the Sun is Jesus, the Moon is his bride, the anointed, and the stars often represent the angels. Stars as angels are the most consistent reference (i.e. when Satan's rebel angels are cast out they are called stars). JC

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The latest NOO LIGHT is really OLD LIGHT

by Honesty in

february 15, 1927 watchtower magazine.

page 62. .

question: in matthew 24:34 jesus said: "verily i. say unto you, this generation shall not pass, till all.

JCanon

Hi Honesty. Great reference! And yes, it does seem that in 1927, when 1914 wasn't so much of a focus even then (I think they didn't move the second coming up from 1874 to 1914 until around 1927, right?).

But it turns out, old or new, this explanation is wrong in the context of the extended generation reference, if you want to apply that. That's because they specifically say:

That was a long way off.
No generation of the human race has ever existed as
long as a thousand years. It follows then that Jesus
must have meant something else. What could he have
meant ?

Now it is true, Jesus probably didn't mean this and meant a generation of 40 years when "all these things" would transpire. But indeed some from the 1st century were chosen to survive nearly 2000 years down to the time of the second coming. That is not likely the "generation" Jesus had in mind primarily, but this reference indicates that that would be one of the implied fulfillments! That is, if Jesus was referring to some persons of his own generation who would not pass away until these things were fulfilled, he would only be restating what he had stated before about (Matt 16:28) "Truly I say to YOU that there are some of those standing here that will not taste death at all until first they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.”

So perhaps an equally good question is what did Jesus actually mean by that statement that "some standing here" would not taste death until he arrived? That's the same as saying some of this generation would not pass away until the second coming! The fact that the WTS in 1927 are rejecting that implication confirms that statement at least would be true if that is what he really meant. So in that sense, whether Jesus meant it directly or in passing, it coincidentally or circumstantially is actually true. Some for Jesus' own generation indeed would not pass away until "all these things" in connection with the second coming did occur.

Now this is incredibly hard to accept even though these things are implied in scripture. Maybe that's why I was made aware of and got to see John and Paul personally in the flesh, two from the Bible who are confirmed to be among those "surviving to the Lord's day" (1 Thess. 4:15-17; John 21:20-23). It's sort of like the photo of the "sign of the son of man" that appeared. Some things are difficult to believe just on faith, and Jehovah wants the anointed to just get past that and move on to other things, so he provides the real thing. I was shown Paul before I realized the Bible indicated that he would be one of the "survivors" from the 1st Century. So I'm out of that loop of thinking maybe this is a misinterpretation or that maybe there is some other interpretation meant when he said some standing there would survive to the second coming. So I'm out of that loop of those who are stumped by not believing this. I don't have to argue it or contemplate on it or anything. It's a reality, observed by me and so I'm past it. It doesn't require faith or interpretation for me. It's a reality and I can move on.

Same with the first resurrection. The first resurrection is described as a "seed" sown into physical bodies. That is EXACTLY what has happened. Just as Christ took up the body of a modern person in the identity of the prodigal son, all those needing to be resurrected before the millennium do exactly the same thing. Jehovah implants them into bodies of modern individuals (one to each body though! - 1 Cor. 15:38 "...but God gives it a body just as it has pleased him, and to each of the seeds its own body.") Thus the 1st resurrection for the JIOR has already occurred. But it is invisible to the world! But how ingenius this truly is! Otherwise, you have persons who would have to learn a new language, be fed and clothed and taken care of and some assigned to give them years of history to catch up. If they are implanted into modern bodies, that's like instant orientation into the modern world because they will share the knowledge of a modern person and be perfectly adapted. That means their relationship with Jehovah and their experiences from their earlier lives, including some like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the way back to Enoch, will be immediately available to them to start right off the bat as judges and king-priests when the millennium begins! God's hand is not short in this regard.

I hate to say this, but in a way, I, being Jesus Christ get to be like OPRAH!!! (donnn't laugh!!! Stop it! ) That is, Oprah is the richest and most famous celebrity in some ways, but she's always crying over these stars when she sees them. That is, she remains a fan of other stars; as huge as she is, they are still stars to her at some level. Thus she remains part of the audience in this way, which I believe is part of her mass appeal. She can still see everything through the eyes of the audience and a fan. I like that, and I would sort of be like that. Even though I'm Jesus Christ, I'll still be in awe over Abraham and Daniel and Nehemiah because of Jehovah's favor toward these people. I'm not that worried about comparing my own relative glory with theirs. It doesn't matter how special I might be, they are still quite special.

Maybe that's the essential difference between Satan and Jesus. Satan competed with humanity and Jesus embraced them for the marvelous creatures they were and were in awe of them; they were glorious because Jehovah could love them as someone made in his own image in the same way he loved the angels. Satan only focussed on the fact that they were an inferior hybrid, half angel half animal like, and thus lower than an angel's glory. So when they were so honored and loved by Jesus and Jehovah, Satan was insulted, being too focussed on his own great glory in heaven. Satan was the most beautiful angelic creature in all of heaven.

You know, it's possible Akhenaten will be of the anointed as well. He became a prophet of the Most High immediately after the Exodus and the Ten Plagues and forced monotheism upon the Egyptians during his reign, dismissing the other gods as "worthless" and withdrew government support for them. It is so painfully obvious that the Ten Plagues would explain his sudden focus on monotheism I think the Jewish and pagan historians who like the revised chronology want to avoid any possible connection to Akhenaten with the Exodus, so they spin various chronology theories, a variety to choose from by the masses, except the truth, which is Amenhotep III died in the Red Sea and then Akhenaten having seen all these great works, of course, started worshipping Yahweh. Many might argue that he became a monotheist for many other possible reasons than the ten plagues, but once you have the absolute and corrected timeline and you can date Akhenaten's first year the same year as the Exodus, then alternatives are only seconded by the obvious. As I said, there is a lot discussed historically for all the periods in the Bible by historians and archaeologists, but two periods of evidence directly supportive of the Bible's timeline are avoided, which is a link of Akhenaten with the Exodus and the Persian Period archaeological findings. It is so apparent if you have a comprehensive study of Biblical chronology that is let's you know these are the two weak spots in ancient history to do just the opposite: focus on them!

JC

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Blondie and/or Leolaia...I have a question

by BONEZZ in

so i am going thru my boxes of cult books making them ready for ebay when i come across a book called, "man's salvation out of world distress at hand!.

" (a freddy book i believe) it was published in 1975 and owned by my dad who was quite a jw student before his eyes opened.. anyway, i'm checking condition of the book and on page 208, paragraph 8 he has made a notation to the left of the paragraph.

scanners not working so i will type out part of the paragraph.

JCanon

I don't think Fred Franz was confused, just too close to the material. He was relating the mustard seed to the weeds that Satan planted in the field. Only in the case of the mustard tree there is no dualistic comparison, unlike the dragnet, the field of wheat and weeds, the flock with sheep and goats, etc.

Without the contrast of good and bad, though, the parable about the loaves and the mustard tree are awkward in association with Christ comparing it to the kingdom.

I think Christ's focus was that it would start very, very small, just as leaven is very little but can leaven the entire loaf. Likewise, the kingdom would start very, very small, with one man and then eventually become a huge entity where many birds would find lodging. This can also represent the kingdom in relation to an individual. How it starts with something very small and then it grows and grows into a huge, strong faith. "He who is faithful in little is faithful in much."

As far as the understanding of the other parables, the WTS is so clueless I don't even want to bother explakning what the true applications are beyond noting, as we can see, they don't make all that much sense. Franz was too anti-Catholic anti-Christendom oriented. You can't apply everything to Christendom vs JW scenario.

JC