Did you read Matt Walsh's article? It is so bad I think I will have to respond to it later.
Yes I did, it is indeed terrible and I said as much in the comments section.
garyneal
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When did Theology Last add something to Human Knowledge?
by cofty into illustrate my question.... i am watching an episode of the australian tv program "q & a" on youtube.
the panel includes the brilliant laurence krauss, gay bishop gene robinson, the woefully ignorant and bigoted rev fred nile and a few others.. the early questions put gene robinson under the spotlight and to be fair he comes across as a loving, compassionate, intelligent and - in his own words - "fabulous" person.
by contrast the reverend nile is a caricature of everything that is dispicable and hateful about theism.. a self-righteous young man in the audience asks gene how he deals with the bible's condemnation of homosexuality.
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garyneal
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I told my wife that she was in a cult...
by garyneal in...it is not the first time i did this but from time to time when i get frustrated i tend to say things i later regret, like this.. she went to the meeting this past sunday and apparently she heard a talk about watching her associations.
she told me that she was glad to have that talk because the message was timely for her.
you see, the saturday night prior she and my kids were at her sisters house and her sister and friends suggested that she hang out with them sometime.
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garyneal
Well a loose definition would essentially be anyone who has ever changed their mind. Lol.
You know, I think you're onto something. Perhaps I am an apostate.
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I told my wife that she was in a cult...
by garyneal in...it is not the first time i did this but from time to time when i get frustrated i tend to say things i later regret, like this.. she went to the meeting this past sunday and apparently she heard a talk about watching her associations.
she told me that she was glad to have that talk because the message was timely for her.
you see, the saturday night prior she and my kids were at her sisters house and her sister and friends suggested that she hang out with them sometime.
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garyneal
Per JW practices for decades now, it's not about your being 'guilty by association', but EVERYONE who speaks out publicly, even if not baptized, is guilty of apostasy for publicly criticizing the WT.
Yeah, in the Watchtower apostate is the dreaded boogeyman all witnesses are to fear. Better to be a rapist or a pedophile than to be one of them.
Jehovah's Witnesses think they have a right to lable everyone else but how dare anyone put lables on them. The bully people with the lable "apostate."
Yeah, their reasoning book is provided just for those labels like false prophets and cults.
Jesus was an apostate. He is my hero!
Mine too, he was also accused of having a demon in Him.
PS, you're "feeding at the table of DEMONS!!!!" Scary isn't it? Happy Halloween! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YeR7GTaZ0c
“Yeah, if you're not FOR THE WT, you're against them…” Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes!
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I told my wife that she was in a cult...
by garyneal in...it is not the first time i did this but from time to time when i get frustrated i tend to say things i later regret, like this.. she went to the meeting this past sunday and apparently she heard a talk about watching her associations.
she told me that she was glad to have that talk because the message was timely for her.
you see, the saturday night prior she and my kids were at her sisters house and her sister and friends suggested that she hang out with them sometime.
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garyneal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy
Some consequences for it that the Watchtower can only envy:
The following are some nations that treat apostasy under their criminal laws.
- Iran – illegal (death penalty) [ 13 ] [ 14 ] [ 15 ]
- Egypt – illegal (3 years' imprisonment) [ 15 ]
- Pakistan – illegal (death penalty [ 15 ] since 2007)
- United Arab Emirates – illegal (3 years' imprisonment, flogging) [ 16 ]
- Somalia – illegal (death penalty) [ 17 ]
- Afghanistan – illegal (death penalty, although the U.S. and other coalition members have put pressure that has prevented recent executions) [ 18 ] [ 19 ]
- Saudi Arabia – illegal (death penalty, although there have been no recently reported executions) [ 15 ] [ 20 ]
- Sudan – illegal (death penalty, although there have only been recent reports of torture, and not of execution) [ 21 ] [ 22 ]
- Qatar – illegal (death penalty) [ 23 ]
- Yemen – illegal (death penalty) [ 23 ]
- Malaysia – illegal in five of 13 states (fine, imprisonment, and flogging) [ 24 ] [ 25 ]
- Mauritania – illegal (death penalty if still apostate after 3 days) [ 26 ]
- Morocco – illegal to proselytise conversion (15 years' imprisonment) [ 27 ]
- Jordan – possibly illegal (fine, jail, child custody loss, marriage annulment) although officials claim otherwise, convictions are recorded for apostasy [ 28 ] [ 29 ] [ 30 ]
- Oman – legal in criminal code, but according to the family code, a father can lose custody of his child [ 31 ]
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I told my wife that she was in a cult...
by garyneal in...it is not the first time i did this but from time to time when i get frustrated i tend to say things i later regret, like this.. she went to the meeting this past sunday and apparently she heard a talk about watching her associations.
she told me that she was glad to have that talk because the message was timely for her.
you see, the saturday night prior she and my kids were at her sisters house and her sister and friends suggested that she hang out with them sometime.
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garyneal
https://www.google.com/#q=apostate
a·pos·tate ?'päs?tat , -tit / noun noun: apostate ; plural noun: apostates
- 1. a person who renounces a religious or political belief or principle.
synonyms: dissenter, defector, deserter, traitor, backslider, turncoat ; More nonconformist ; schismatic ; archaic heretic ; rare recusant, recreant, tergiversator " after 50 years as an apostate, he returned to the faith " antonyms: follower
- 1. abandoning a religious or political belief or principle.
- 1. a person who renounces a religious or political belief or principle.
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Help with a part in the ministry school... teaches TTATT subtly
by ILoveTTATT inmy gf has the part "why are there so many religions".... i need to place some ttatt seeds very subtly... i don't care if they go right above most jw's heads... .
any ideas?.
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garyneal
Perhaps you can talk about Harold Camping and how his prediction of May 21st, 2012 was originally predicted to happen visibly but was later revised so that it actually happened invisibly. Point out that an Awake article labeled him a false prophet for it.
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When did Theology Last add something to Human Knowledge?
by cofty into illustrate my question.... i am watching an episode of the australian tv program "q & a" on youtube.
the panel includes the brilliant laurence krauss, gay bishop gene robinson, the woefully ignorant and bigoted rev fred nile and a few others.. the early questions put gene robinson under the spotlight and to be fair he comes across as a loving, compassionate, intelligent and - in his own words - "fabulous" person.
by contrast the reverend nile is a caricature of everything that is dispicable and hateful about theism.. a self-righteous young man in the audience asks gene how he deals with the bible's condemnation of homosexuality.
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garyneal
Matt Walsh would disagree with you.
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I told my wife that she was in a cult...
by garyneal in...it is not the first time i did this but from time to time when i get frustrated i tend to say things i later regret, like this.. she went to the meeting this past sunday and apparently she heard a talk about watching her associations.
she told me that she was glad to have that talk because the message was timely for her.
you see, the saturday night prior she and my kids were at her sisters house and her sister and friends suggested that she hang out with them sometime.
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garyneal
...it is not the first time I did this but from time to time when I get frustrated I tend to say things I later regret, like this.
She went to the meeting this past Sunday and apparently she heard a talk about watching her associations. She told me that she was glad to have that talk because the message was timely for her. You see, the Saturday night prior she and my kids were at her sisters house and her sister and friends suggested that she hang out with them sometime. Now my sister in law mostly hangs out at other people's house drinking and partying and my wife said she did not want to be a part of that. Okay, I thought, whatever she wants to do as long as it is not too over the top or causes her to forget she's married, etc..
The next point she made was concerning me and my posting here. Evidently, I am an apostate which I have to remind her that an apostate is a person who has left his or her religion. Since I was never a Jehovah's Witness nor have I formally renounced my faith in Christianity, I am not an apostate by the biblical or even dictionary definition of the word. I am an apostate by association with you all who are apostates of the Jehovah's Witnesses. It is so hard to get her to see the reason on this when she is stuck on the whole guilt by association fallacy and the loading of the language redefining the word apostate to apply it to me.
But I did finally come up with an example that I thought would help her understand. If I am an apostate, she is a cultist. I asked her does it matter that I can redefine the word cultist or cult and apply it to her? If correct definitions matter, right? I proceeded to tell her that she has been saying lately that she wants to be more herself and less like the person she hangs out with, less a social chameleon. As long as she participates in this religion she will told what to think, what to do, and how to act. She recently threw a party for our little 3 year old and I cannot tell the world on facebook what a wonderful job she did (and I noticed she gets questions about the event from her mom). She responded with, "So I guess my job is a cult then." "Perhaps," I said, "the difference is what would happen if you leave your job aside from the obvious loss of pay. Would your mom still accept you if you left your religion? If you can say yes, you're not in a cult."
I think it got to her for she went silent. You see, when she says she does not want to be a social chameleon, I sometimes think she refers to her putting on masks at the hall.
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The worst thing to have pride in
by Rattigan350 ini really hate it when kids on interviews on meetings or assemblies and they state with pride that they turned down the piece of cake or brownie or other birthday treat at school.
is that something to really be proud of?
it is not as if the teacher is tempting them.
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garyneal
ITS A CULT.
That's really the best explanation I can offer for such foolishness.
"I fed my child cianide poisoning and resisted the temptation not to, won't God be so proud of me?" says the Jonestown follower.
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25 million YouTube views: "Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus"
by Fernando inthe popularity of the video has led to a book being written and published: "jesus > religion".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iahdgylpqy.
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garyneal
Hmmm... Christianity is not a religion?
That was the main issue I had with his video. It is good for those who want some banner to proclaim, "I'm not religious, I just love the Lord," but they would know little to nothing about Him without religion.
Alternative viewpoint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbsadOQK_6A
Can't say I am impressed with him either. Republican trying to defend his viewpoint and his way in a cheesy fake kind of white trash free styling, but to each his own.