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simon17
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WHEN WAS ANCIENT JERUSALEM DESTROYED? Why does it matter? The Watchtower October 1, 2011 and November 1, 2011
by wannabefree inwhen was ancient jerusalem destroyed?.
a critique of the two-part article published in the public editions of.
the watchtower of october 1, 2011, pages 26-31 and.
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"This Speech Is Shocking"
by BroMac in*** w06 7/15 p. 22 focus on the goodness of jehovahs organization ***.
this speech is shocking.
13 whereas some in the first century murmured against appointed servants, others were murmurers against jesus teachings.
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simon17
Regarding Emmanuel in Paragraph 15, they forgot the part that he returned just in time because his new friends were all heavily addicted to cocaine, heroin and bestiality and that he was about to get sucked into their sordid practices.
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Do you stil have Jw stuff
by d ini still have jw stuff like bibles and watchtower i have to get rid of.
do you any of you guys and girls here have stuff you to get rid of..
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simon17
Some stuff yeah. No need to throw out useful things like suits or briefcases. I believe I have my first talk and public talk outlines probably. I'm happy to have moved on, but I don't think its necessary to forget who I once was: after all, that is the key to understanding who I have become.
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Had another "Aha!" moment reading last Sunday's WT.
by Open mind insince waking up to "the truth about the truth" several years ago there have been numerous "aha!
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i also think of them as "how could i have been so stupid?
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simon17
The point seems valid to me. No more sipping merlot while lounging on those Gesthemane lazy boys. After that it was all pointy rocks and Red Bull.
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are jw the most dispised religion by the public?
by mP ini remember going to a new school, and before i said anything there were a few kids poking fun at jehovah.
jehovah this and that .
at no stage did i ever hear anyone mention any other god or religion in conversation or playground banter.
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simon17
In my experience I think JW's are like the quiet awkward kid who sits alone at lunch in middle school. He's generally nice to people and so everyone feels a little bit sorry for him, but not enough to really go over and sit with him.
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Is there ANY JW belief/doctrine that has remained the same from start to now?
by journey-on ini was trying to think of one teaching or doctrine that has remained consistent from the society's inception to now, and couldn't.
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can you give me one?.
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simon17
Question should be any non-mainstream beliefs that have stayed the same because obviously belief in the Bible and dozens of generally undisputed beliefs among christians found within have not changed. Tons of literal interpretations have not changed, like literal interpretation of adam and even, noah's flood, etc etc.
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My first experience as a Householder.
by Flat_Accent inand it wasnt even on the platform!.
i got a knock on the door this morning from a jw in another local congregation.
it's the first time this has happened since i left in october.
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simon17
All I can suggest for this, is to invite her inside and ask her to use Google to find statistics to back up her 'feelings'.
No don't do that. You can verify any ridiculous assertion via a google search and you'll just be bickering back and forth about source validity.
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Blame the designer and not the product: God and the lame Free Will argument
by Terry inthis is the one thing nobody is ever able to explain to me!.
if a genius designs something to operate in a specific way in order to obtain a precise outcome and it doesn't work---tell me again why we don't blame the genius designer/manufacturer??.
oh--that free will maguffin!.
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simon17
Put this in another context.
Would you prefer a Stepford wife who is programmed to be whatever you want to a wife with her own will and emotions who may let you down?
Supposing you want the latter, thats fine, but you can't say you want a wife who will love you and stay with you by choice while threatening to kill her if she were to ever leave you. That's abusive.
If God said that he wants humans to serve him out of love and things will be better that way, but if you want, go out and live with Satan and whatever life that ends up being, then that is an ACTUAL choice. Obey me or die is free will in a technical sense, but it is also the height of emotional and/or physical abuse.
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Blame the designer and not the product: God and the lame Free Will argument
by Terry inthis is the one thing nobody is ever able to explain to me!.
if a genius designs something to operate in a specific way in order to obtain a precise outcome and it doesn't work---tell me again why we don't blame the genius designer/manufacturer??.
oh--that free will maguffin!.
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simon17
There is meaning in the second, but not in the first. The second one is free. The first one is a slave.
Yeah but... freedom is not "You are free to do what you want; but if you don't do what I want, I will kill you"
In that sense all slaves have been "free". They can choose to leave the plantation if they want at any time. But if they don't want to be hunted down and killed they will freely choose to stay on the plantation and follow their master's will.
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Without God, Do Humans Have More Intrinsic Value Than Animals?
by leavingwt in.
if there is no god (however defined), do humans have more intrinsic value than animals?
feel free to offer brief or complex responses.
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simon17
Yes, humans have more intrinsic value because of intelligence and ability to use that intelligence. Ultimately existnence of life is of more use, and only humans have the capability to allow life to persevere past things like the end of the solar system. Therefore I conclude they have more intrinsic value. Perhaps that isn't "intrinsic" but it is value.
Also we should probably say humans have more potential intrinsic value, because their abilities could also be used for harm in a way that no other animal or organism could achieve.