Posts by Lillith26

i when to many 'meetings' at the kh as a study, and i also watched the dvd the wtbts use to premote their no blood propaganda, but i dont remember anything being said about how legal it is to refuse blood for minors in our own country!

in australia their are laws in place to protect children from the 'religious claims' of their parents in life threatening situations.... are there lwas like this where you live???.

(i) minors.

Lillith26

Oh those poor miners. Coal miners in particulare are very prone to accidends and may very well need a blood transfusion every now and then

.- LOL

Welcome to the board thx144000.

Australia is awesome!

Lets hope that other countrys are as child friendly as ours is, and I hope Australia stays that way!

Personally I have a feeling that is secretly very welcome by many JW parents.

I think so too!

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How much will Watchtower publish online?

by jonathanconway in

i've noticed that they have a small selection of articles online.. however the majority of their stuff is only accessible through either the watchtower cdrom or dead trees.. has anyone yet asked them about putting their entire library online?.

if their aim is to "spead the good news", then what possible reason could there be for not making the content publicly accessible?.

since they already have it in electronic form (i believe the content is already in html format on the cd), the cost of doing this would be minimal, and it would probably make their website rank better in google.. of course, the flip-side is that this would allow others to link to their content and discuss it openly and, anonymously, which might expose them to much more criticism than they've ever experienced before.. but i'm wondering what their excuse would be if someone asked them "why not"?.

Lillith26

Hey Jonathanconway, welcome to the forum.

Great sugestion- if they did publish everthing online from their library it expose A LOT! perhaps a few 'still ins' or 'still stuck ins' should ask this question at the next meeting

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Just found this- refusing blood for minors

by Lillith26 in

i when to many 'meetings' at the kh as a study, and i also watched the dvd the wtbts use to premote their no blood propaganda, but i dont remember anything being said about how legal it is to refuse blood for minors in our own country!

in australia their are laws in place to protect children from the 'religious claims' of their parents in life threatening situations.... are there lwas like this where you live???.

(i) minors.

Lillith26

I have started this tread on here as the topic of whether or not parents should have the right to make 'religious decisions' on behalf of their children has become a rather heated debate on other forum I frequent. I know how stronge the views are about the 'blood' issues on this forum and would just like to know if there are LAWS that prevent parents from rufusing treatments (eg- blood transfusions) in other countrys.....

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Just found this- refusing blood for minors

by Lillith26 in

i when to many 'meetings' at the kh as a study, and i also watched the dvd the wtbts use to premote their no blood propaganda, but i dont remember anything being said about how legal it is to refuse blood for minors in our own country!

in australia their are laws in place to protect children from the 'religious claims' of their parents in life threatening situations.... are there lwas like this where you live???.

(i) minors.

Lillith26

I when to many 'meetings' at the KH as a study, and I also watched the dvd the WTBTS use to premote their No Blood Propaganda, But I dont remember anything being said about how legal it is to refuse blood for minors in our own country! in Australia their are laws in place to protect children from the 'religious claims' of their parents in life threatening situations.... are there lwas like this where you live???

(i) Minors

In all Australian jurisdictions, there is legislation which permits particular forms of treatment for minors without parental consent[2]. In Western Australia, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria and the Australian Capital Territory blood transfusions may be given without parental consent if the child is in danger of death without the treatment[3]. In Tasmania, Victoria and the Australian Capital Territory two doctors must agree that it is impracticable to delay the transfusion as the child may die without it but in Western Australia and Queensland, it is sufficient that the blood transfusion is necessary to preserve the life of the child and no second opinion is required[4].

In the Northern Territory, the Emergency Medical Operations Act 1973 (NT): ss. 2 and 3 authorises an emergency operation (which includes a blood transfusion) on a child without parental consent if it is not reasonably practicable to delay the operation until parental consent is obtained and teo doctors believe that the patient is in danger of dying or of sufferring a serious permianent disability. In South Australia, the Consent to Medical and Dental Procedures Act 1985 (SA): ss. 6(2), (3), (5), (6) dispenses with the need for consent if the emergency procedure is required to meet an imminent risk to the life or health of the child although a second opinion should be taken unless this is not reasonably practicable. In New South Wales, the Children (Care and Protection) Act 1987 (NSW): s. 20A dispenses with the consent requirement if the treatment is necessary to save the life of the child or prevent serious damage to his/her health.

Skene states that legislation authorising doctors to give children blood transfusions to save the child's life (even if parents object) was introduced after a number of cases in which parents who were Jehovah's Witnesses refused permission for blood transfusions for their children when doctors felt it was necessary to save life[5]. Skene, by way of example, refers to the early decision of Jehu's Case (unreported decision of Supreme Court of Victoria, March 1960) where a man was convicted of manslaughter of his child as he refused permission for a blood transfusion principally because of his religious belief[6]. Skene adds that there were a number of other old cases where parents were found criminally liable for refusing or failing to seek treatment for a sick child on religious grounds but does not specify these[7]. Thus, it appears that the legislation was passed not only to protect the lives and health of children by ensuring they receive necessary emergency treatment regardless of parental consent but also to protect parents from criminal liability by allowing doctors to intervene against parental wishes when necessary.

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What are the fruits that we are supposed to recognize?

by bluecanary in

i posted most of this on another thread but i want this to stand alone so i can refer back to it in the future.

one of our resident apologists has given her response on this thread.

you can judge the relative worth of her response for yourself.. "by their fruit you will recognize them.

Lillith26

To me at first, the WTBTS looked like a nice big juicey Apple, first bite tasted sweet, second bite was just as good, but on the third bite I copped a mouth full of dirty maggots mabey i should have gone for the lollie pop I found in the gutter, washed the dirt off and had that instead of what seemed like a healther alternative!

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Please nominate your favourite film and say why you rate it so highly.

by lifelong humanist in

jw
friends

i've just watched all 3 parts of francis ford coppola's epic godfather once again.

it is a superb achievement on many levels.

each viewing reveals something new and fresh.. i recall, as a good jw at the time, not seeing it when released as it was not certified as 'suitable' given the content for jws.

Lillith26

3.# The Green Mile- with Tom Hanks,

2.# The Color Purple- with Woopie Goldburg and Oprah.

1.#The Power of One- my personal favorite, with Morgan Freeman.

4.#The Hicthikers Guide to the Galaxy- the movie, but I like the series too!

5.#The Life of Brian- by Monty Python!!! actually anything done by these guys is GREAT!.

6.#Red Dwarf- not a movie but a UK classic tv series they should make a movie out of!