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  Chelmsford is green-lighted

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.

  here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.

  to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.

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  konceptual: that's a very good picture. you can really tell how many additional buildings there were in the original plan and how closely spaced they were. It looks like the left-most half of the project (non-residential) has been rotated, buildings have been removed and the warehouse/(printery?) could be a very slimmed down version (it is hard to see due to the perspective).

  It is unthinkable they wont brag about the project later so it will be interesting to compare once more detailed plans become available. Judging from the existing construction work under way I bet the project was halted and already completed/approved plans were re-written; I would be interested if someone with experience in construction had an opinion.
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  Chelmsford is green-lighted

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.

  here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.

  to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.

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  konceptual: It looks like offices (greenish blue buildings) move into "residential services" and one set of offices is removed. I think there might still be four rows of residential, the last building is just next to the lobby (it could be something else of course). Residential services would be kitchens right? (if I recall these were removed as part of the downsizing). Removing offices would make sense with reduced printing activities as I assume there must be some computer work involved in printing.

  Auditorium would make sense for education of evangelizes. Could there possibly be a fee on the cards and then a system of "scholarships"?
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  Chelmsford is green-lighted

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.

  here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.

  to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.

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  Temple farm is a bit like when I am assembling Ikea furniture. There is a lot more stuff in the illustration than in the finished product and I can't figure out what goes where :-D.
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  Chelmsford is green-lighted

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.

  here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.

  to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.

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  Konceptual: Lol, I was trying the same.

  
  
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  Chelmsford is green-lighted

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.

  here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.

  to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.

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  bohm

  Re what bluesbrothers said here are the existing temple farms plan:

  
  

  I just checked, it appears to be archived on waybackmachine

  http://www.templefarmdevelopment.co.uk/proposal
  
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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

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  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  Lol yes I see your point. I also see that having these laws of nature, is evidence of guidance. But I don't disagree I just have a different perspective.

  So what you are really proposing is the argument of natural laws, i.e. the existence of laws (such as those guiding auto-catalysis and other chemistry) implies the existence of a creator?
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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

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  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  I have concluded that evolution is guided. I see that molecules formed of a specific symmetry because they were guided by auto-catalysis.

  Just to clarify: You have concluded that the evolution of these molecules are guided by auto-catalysis (a natural process), but how do you then go from concluded that their evolution is guided by a natural process to being guided by God? Isn't this in contradiction?

  Presumably, auto-catalysisis not violating any laws of nature?
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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  Hi Kate,

  I am not sure I understand the exact argument you are spelling out. I think we agree that nature only use left-handed amino acids for good reasons -- if an organism produces a mixture of left-and-right handed amino acids the right-handed variants would not be able to function with the left handed ones and at best they would be useless (but expensive) to produce and most likely (as I understand it) they would gunk up the inner workings of the cell due to their interaction with the left-handed counterparts. This is true regardless if evolution created life or if God did.

  My point is that if we naively imagine different cells where one cell produce 100% left-handed molecules, another produce 90% left handed and so on then the cells that produced predominantly left-handed amino acids would have a benefit over the others and, accordingly, evolution would select for them. In other words this seems like a straight-forward problem to explain with natural selection.

  For this to be a real challenge for evolution, I suppose one would have to argue that machinery that only produced molecules of one particular symmetry could not have evolved for some specific reason; but I haven't seen such an argument.

  If I am missing something, can you spell out exactly what your argument is?
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  Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  here is an idea i tested.

  works at both assemblies and conventions.

  i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

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  konceptual99: Please let us know how it went!. I think it is a great idea that should be spread more; If I ever go to a convention I will do it just for fun.

  I don't want to alarm you, but make sure that you are not accidentally sharing anything by default on your phone like photos (I would try to connect to the phone with another computer and click around to see if anything showed).
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

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  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  bohm

  Bye again! I hope it will be a "postmodern leave-for-good" and you will check in again later when things clear up ;-)