TROT: I think it all made perfect sense. I wish you were representing some kind of organization I could donate my money and resources to.
Posts by bohm
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62Have you ever stopped and noticed anything about the world?
by TheRevealerOfTruth inthis is one of the last things you are expected to do.
in a society that creates you to go home and watch the kardashians.
in an economic system where the currency trust is wavering on a private banking system.
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New commentary on revelation coming up?
by EdenOne ini heard through the grapevine about a forthcoming book:.
together through the great tribulation - come to jehovah's mountain.
still awaiting solid confirmation though.
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Even if the cover/diagrams are fishy, I think it would make a lot of sense to make a new revelation book which simply omitted a lot of the embarrassing stuff. The dropping of the types/antitypes a few months back could be seen as gearing up to a new take on the book of revelations where everything was not deemed significant and dumping down the message would just be continuing the trajectory they have taken the last few years.
I predict it will be a fairly slim book which only focus on what's most important from their perspective (Armageddon is coming really soon and it will be really bad). JWs can then decide for themselves if everything said previously is old light or if it is still current light; that way everyone wins.
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Gorby wishes you a happy convention! (picture)
by Gorbatchov ingorby has been offline from jwd for some weeks, and it made my situation not better, have had some serious problems with the fading, much pressure, i have nothing new to say, it must be very similar to the situation of many faders here.. so, i had so much pressure, that we have had to change our holiday booking so we are able to visit the convention, due to family reasons, you all know what i mean.. please wish me (and us) much luck for this summer.
it is not my best summer season in life.. this is how i feel:.
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brilliant work with the captioning Pete and Robo.
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JW TV, this month about evolution
by bohm inthis month the last segment is about evolution.
one is with a sister with a university education in biochemistry who (presumably) teaches at a highschool or public school.
she says that left handedness of amino acids indicates life was created because "if it was a random process half would be right handed and half left handed" (paraphrased).
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Vidiot I was shocked too but I am really sure I transcribed it correctly. But it was said by someone with a PhD so witness can either accept it (he is a really smart doctor man derp) or if they google some of the many transitional fossils they can just say he is not speaking for the org...
If someone was saying that to me in real life I would immediately ask him to imagine how a hypothetical transitional fossil whale might look like..
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Mill Hill - Chelmsford, reduced capacity, any news on Chelmsford plan revision
by Lostandfound inchelmsford looks to have much less work than in mill hill complex, if gb spirit guided why did they allow massive plans for new site when such significant changes must have been in discussion, planning , or contemplation.
knee jerk reaction to things looks to indicate someone or more on gb has instituted changes almost overnight.
my dog plans his day better, get up, walk, sleep, eat, walk some more, eat some more, and sleep again.
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Formerbrother: Operated underground or stored underground? Is this private communication or is there a link?
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JW TV, this month about evolution
by bohm inthis month the last segment is about evolution.
one is with a sister with a university education in biochemistry who (presumably) teaches at a highschool or public school.
she says that left handedness of amino acids indicates life was created because "if it was a random process half would be right handed and half left handed" (paraphrased).
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On the positive side, the question of left-handedness of amino acids is fascinating. Talk origins give a good summary:
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB040.html
Response:
- The amino acids that are used in life, like most other aspects of living things, are very likely not the product of chance. Instead, they likely resulted from a selection process. A simple peptide replicator can amplify the proportion of a single handedness in an initially random mixture of left- and right-handed fragments (Saghatelian et al. 2001; TSRI 2001). Self-assemblies on two-dimensional surfaces can also amplify a single handedness (Zepik et al. 2002). Serine forms stable clusters of a single handedness which can select other amino acids of like handedness by subtituting them for serine; these clusters also incorporate other biologically important molecules such as glyceraldehyde, glucose, and phosphoric acid (Takats et al. 2003). An excess of handedness in one kind of amino acid catalyzes the handedness of other organic products, such as threose, which may have figured prominently in proto-life (Pizzarello and Weber 2004).
- Amino acids found in meteorites from space, which must have formed abiotically, also show significantly more of the left-handed variety, perhaps from circularly polarized UV light in the early solar system (Engel and Macko 1997; Cronin and Pizzarello 1999). The weak nuclear force, responsible for beta decay, produces only electrons with left-handed spin, and chemicals exposed to these electrons are far more likely to form left-handed crystals (Service 1999). Such mechanisms might also have been responsible for the prevalence of left-handed amino acids on earth.
- The first self-replicator may have had eight or fewer types of amino acids (Cavalier-Smith 2001). It is not all that unlikely that the same handedness might occur so few times by chance, especially if one of the amino acids was glycine, which has no handedness.
- Some bacteria use right-handed amino acids, too (McCarthy et al. 1998).
Basically, living things function badly with a mix of left and right-hand amino acids. This creates a selection pressure towards organisms that uses either eventually causing one form to be dominant. On top of that there are other factors that favors the production of left-handed acids (they are more commonly found in space than their right-handed counterpart, see http://www.nature.com/news/force-of-nature-gave-life-its-asymmetry-1.15995) thus it is not unexpected (and certainly not difficult to explain!) why we have mostly left-handed amino acids in life today; its more about choosing the right explanation from a set of competing explanations.
It is therefore either dishonest or grossly incompetent when it is claimed that this somehow proves creation...
Btw. did anyone notice the "left-handedness of amino acids" argument is lifted directly from the "Life? How did it get here" book?
- The amino acids that are used in life, like most other aspects of living things, are very likely not the product of chance. Instead, they likely resulted from a selection process. A simple peptide replicator can amplify the proportion of a single handedness in an initially random mixture of left- and right-handed fragments (Saghatelian et al. 2001; TSRI 2001). Self-assemblies on two-dimensional surfaces can also amplify a single handedness (Zepik et al. 2002). Serine forms stable clusters of a single handedness which can select other amino acids of like handedness by subtituting them for serine; these clusters also incorporate other biologically important molecules such as glyceraldehyde, glucose, and phosphoric acid (Takats et al. 2003). An excess of handedness in one kind of amino acid catalyzes the handedness of other organic products, such as threose, which may have figured prominently in proto-life (Pizzarello and Weber 2004).
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JW TV, this month about evolution
by bohm inthis month the last segment is about evolution.
one is with a sister with a university education in biochemistry who (presumably) teaches at a highschool or public school.
she says that left handedness of amino acids indicates life was created because "if it was a random process half would be right handed and half left handed" (paraphrased).
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CookieMonster: If evolution goes in you have to give up the literal Adam and Eve... I realize you can do that in liberal theology (and the end-result is better than the mess of the WTBS), but allowing major parts of the bible to be allegories is just such a major shift in thinking I don't see it happening.
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JW TV, this month about evolution
by bohm inthis month the last segment is about evolution.
one is with a sister with a university education in biochemistry who (presumably) teaches at a highschool or public school.
she says that left handedness of amino acids indicates life was created because "if it was a random process half would be right handed and half left handed" (paraphrased).
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well, at least one of the scientists they found had good teeth, so that's something.
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JW TV, this month about evolution
by bohm inthis month the last segment is about evolution.
one is with a sister with a university education in biochemistry who (presumably) teaches at a highschool or public school.
she says that left handedness of amino acids indicates life was created because "if it was a random process half would be right handed and half left handed" (paraphrased).
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DS: Apparently it was the events in Kosovo in the 90s which made him return and not science...
no big surprise there.
BTW here is his linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davey-loos-1340247
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Gorby wishes you a happy convention! (picture)
by Gorbatchov ingorby has been offline from jwd for some weeks, and it made my situation not better, have had some serious problems with the fading, much pressure, i have nothing new to say, it must be very similar to the situation of many faders here.. so, i had so much pressure, that we have had to change our holiday booking so we are able to visit the convention, due to family reasons, you all know what i mean.. please wish me (and us) much luck for this summer.
it is not my best summer season in life.. this is how i feel:.
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Hi, Sorry that your fade has run into problems, are you fading with your wife or is that the problem?
That picture cracks me up. someone should add thought bubbles to that picture.