Posts by bohm

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

Kasparov:

https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/769009111098880000?lang=en

Tolokno:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/27/pussy-riot-s-nadya-tolokno-julian-assange-is-connected-with-the-russian-government.html

Q: So Julian Assange didn’t deny that he was working with the Russian government?

A: He couldn’t deny it.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

The rape charges (by a CIA operative) looked suspect from the start IMO

I don't have a lot of specific knowledge about the rape charge. It could be true or false; if it was CIA it would (as I see it) only make him more desperate and therefore more amenable to do what he could to keep wikileaks and his own ego afloat.

I mean, what would his choice be? Work with Ivan (which involve a show on RT today, and yes he did not do that for free, and not asking where his information came from) or go to jail and find out if the black-site stuff was still on?

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

I think he's an absolute tool. But, he's an idealist and likes to think he's better than others and seems to take pride in the reputation of WikiLeaks. Being caught compromised acting against the US at the behest of Russia would ruin them and I simply don't think he is likely to do that

Why do you think he has a RT today show?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjU3NuBkOHRAhUpwFQKHVoZDO8QFggaMAA&url=https%3A%

Who actually supports Assange on the wikileaks staff? (I only know about the anonymous post that said he was compromised and all of the original staff had left because they believed he was a fascist in it for the fame)

Why do the "serious" russian dissidents, left to right, believe he is compromised?

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

Trump is either on to something with the election fraud or he isn't. If he isn't, he'll look a schmuck. If it turns out he is, and there is strong evidence that he might be from some reports, then the people who've been shouting "no way!" will look silly and it will be pretty devastating to dems.

Of course he will find wide spread "voter fraud"! He said so on the ABC 20/20 interview himself!

People who are dead and registered (because people die)! People who are registered in two states! (like his entire staff seems to be).

He will conclude all of these people must have voted HRC. He is already spreading lies (yes, lies!) about people who have told him they were standing in line with south-Americans (he know they were!) and then told to leave the line. This too will be believed to be true (I very much hope you will read this piece)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwikseOlj-HRAhVP2WMKHWDXCLgQqUMIHjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2017%2F01%2F25%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-bernhard-langer-voting-fraud.html&usg=AFQjCNFdOXitkVKjQr33s7OGNtW-5MnP6Q&sig2=xKj_pkrldwTKEDku1CotSA

Then a few cases of genuine voter-fraud which can be stamped up (someone tells someone to vote for him, whatever, this happens every year in our elections) will be found an paraded around as "evidence" every single dead registered voter voted liberal.

Don't believe me?

The "the election was rigged" meme is already being spread as true on the alt-right twittersphere if you look into it using the usual lines: "You are just mad because you lost the election even though it was rigged".

Breitbart is going to support this claim, or rather, how important that investigation is. It will then find a number of double-registered voters and dead voters (even though there is no evidence actually false votes were cast) and THAT will be used as a line to further de-legitimize THAT aspect of the american democracy as well.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

Simon:

Another reason is that I doubt WikiLeaks would risk having links to Russian state sponsored hacking and be shown to be partisan.

I think you should look into Assange...

The original staff of wikileaks left because they came to believe Assange is a fascist who are in it for his own fame --- that's from Anonymous.

Remember the timeline: Assange leaked left and right about everyone up to around 2011 (I am not 100% sure about the year); he was on record saying the purpose of Wikileaks was to call out totalitarian regimes such as Putins Russia. He then reported he had a large treasure-trove of Russian information. Around that time the American banks cut off donations and wikileaks were about to go bust.

Suddenly Assange is at the embassy fleeing rape charges, and a moment later he is on RT today (Kremlin/Putin controlled propaganda outlet) IN Russia and wikileaks have no more financial problems...

After 2011 wikileaks have leaked information damaging for US/EU interests and not said a peep about Putin except some very general noises all the while leaking material believed to originate from FSB. You can find his name all over pro-Putin propaganda material and crackpottery.

This is not a far-left theory.. this is widely held by the Russian dissidents left to right, from Kasparov (by no means left; he believes Obama was one of the worst presidents and Regan the best) to Pussy Riot who, after a meeting with Assange, said he was compromised.

I know this is circumstantial but why do we know Assange is one of the good guys except he was believed to be around 2010?

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

Simon: I thought about what you said yesterday, that the recount perhaps wasn't some stupid random shit but Trump might know something (I think that was what you said).

Here is my current line of thinking:

According to the NSA/FBI/CIA Putins strategy for influencing democracy both in Russia and abroad has always been to primarily delegitimize democracy rather than influencing it, to show it is every bit as fake as any other form of government.
According to the report, there is no evidence the cyberattack against the USA tried to affect the vote count, rather it was about stealing emails and spreading them via wikipedia as well as disseminating propaganda via putinbots and propaganda outlets such as RT today.
HOWEVER voting databases were hacked. This piece of information has gotten very little coverage.
Now Trump is performing an investigation which will involve these same databases...

I don't know if this has any relevancy, it might just be random shit from Trump. But it is an odd coincidence. On the plus side Trump can do little to affect voting laws (I checked and they are determined at state level). But if you want to delegitimize democracy you first go after the free press (done!), then you go after the fairness of the elections...

Bonus fact: Voting databases were also hacked in the Philipines a month before the election, a country where the elected president (a populist much like Trump) can't stop telling the world how much he adores Putin.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

Yeah, but then the left has been calling everyone a nazi since forever.

Simon: Yes I agree and that is terrible etc. etc. as I have said so many times in this thread.

The point is that now we got a guy who really behaves like Hugo Chavez did when he grapped power and that is what I speak out against. I did not spend the last 8 years calling everyone a nazi (I dare you to find a quote) and I don't think trump is a Nazi (or Bannon for the matter), but they ARE pushing really dangerous ideas with deep ties to totalitarian agendas; the concept of a lying press and a pro-state "trusted" press being one of them.

The solution to that can't be to try and make the radical left shut up about nazis because it won't happen for 30 years --- trust me, I have tried to communicate with some of them and it ain't going to work ever (I got shouted down in the usual manner), they are as impossible to talk with as any breitbot.

We got to prioritize our resources. Trump will only galvanize the radical left and make them more extreme; he is basically the single best piece of evidence for Patriarchy ever. The solution to that is to call out extreme thinking, left and right, to draw the parallels there are there and have people step out of their echo-chambers.

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Mr Trump looked in the Bible to see what's God view on "Torture"

by James Mixon in

guess what, first book of the bible genesis 3:16 and he found other books that condones torture, exodus 7:3, numbers 31:17,18 and many more in that book.

so trump thought i have god's blessing..

bohm

DJS: The "list of crime" thing is a tactic used by Lenin. Here is Steve Bannon on Lenin:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/us/politics/stephen-bannon-breitbart-words.html

“I’m a Leninist,” Mr. Bannon was quoted as saying by a writer for The Daily Beast who met him at a party in 2014. He later said he did not recall the conversation. “Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal, too,” the site quoted him as saying. “I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.

Trump can only stay in power by inciting more chaos; this is a step in that direction as is the trade war with Mexico he started today.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

Just to get it clear:

On the one hand there is a madman who has quite literally become in control of 7000 nuclear weapons he can fire on a whim. He question the basics of the electoral process (oh he will find evidence!) and uses the old nazi technique of calling the press lugenspresse (sorry, fake news).

...or we can care about women with silly hats, that nazi who got punched, the muslim woman with unsavory ideas...

Where should our priorities be? Which of these are most important?

Steve "Wino-Goebbels" Bannon, you know, the one who used to run the propaganda mill, today told the free press today to "keep it's mouth shut".

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/business/media/stephen-bannon-trump-news-media.html?_r=0

What is that telling us? These people are walking and quacking like fascists...

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

Simon: Don't focus on the numbers alone, read the comments, especially to the first video. This is exactly what it looked like back when organized atheism had it's big nut-left witch hunts during the breakup period ca. 2012. Soon you are going to see virtue-signalling and the comeback of "the witch of the week" lol.

And no, this does not excuse what happens on the nut-left in my view, as I have written again and again. For instance:

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/students-are-sleepwalking-into-anti-semitic-hysteria/