freddo: The ballot should have been like this:
What do you prefer?
[ ] Leave the EU
[ ] Remain in the EU
[ ] A pint of beer
Posts by bohm
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41One Thing I Don't Get About Brexit
by JW_Rogue inhow did such a weighty decision get put directly in the hands on the average citizen?
and with only a simple majority required?
in the usa the biggest thing that people vote on directly is city building projects or infrastructure.
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One Thing I Don't Get About Brexit
by JW_Rogue inhow did such a weighty decision get put directly in the hands on the average citizen?
and with only a simple majority required?
in the usa the biggest thing that people vote on directly is city building projects or infrastructure.
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bohm
Re. emotions:
the government hadn't appeared to listen
People felt that they were being micromanaged
They also felt that the country's infrastructure was breaking down
They felt too that their national identity was being eroded
They didn't feel that their concerns were being taken seriously
So finally they lost patience and walked.One could also ask in another way: Did the people do it's job to investigate what the EU was and what the benefits of being a member of the EU is?
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One Thing I Don't Get About Brexit
by JW_Rogue inhow did such a weighty decision get put directly in the hands on the average citizen?
and with only a simple majority required?
in the usa the biggest thing that people vote on directly is city building projects or infrastructure.
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bohm
JW_rogue: That's a very good question. The big problem is the sheer amount of FUD floating around.. when unpopular decisions are made politicians are pretty quick to blame the EU because it wont hurt them politically. That means many people just "know" the EU is not democratic, inefficient, wasteful, enact stupid rules etc.
On top of that the right-wing nationalistic anti-EU movements all across Europe keeps selling the EU as a bureaucratic (non-democratic) body that keeps on growing. The "non-democratic" part is FUD, however the growing part is true. For instance the EU had to draft a ton of banking legislation in the wake of the recent banking crisis with the Greek to stabilize the economy. But is that really a bad thing? One way or the other that legislation would have to be made, and by ensuring the same legislation for all of EU this ensures no unfair competitive advantage.
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Some Comments On Facebook From Some Of My Relatives After Leaving EU
by disillusioned 2 ineveryone talking about leaving the eu, i am concerned and excited.
mostly i look forward to seeing bible prophecy coming true and i keep my mum in the forefront of my mind.. me too sis!.
we left eu.
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I would be tempted to troll them. Like write optimistically we might be heading for financial meltdown or something -
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Mark Sanderson Talk re Belgium visit
by Listener inthe degradation of the governing body members continues on.
mark sanderson gives a talk regarding his visit to belgium for the memorial this year and was travelling from korea to munich to brussels, belgium on the day of the belgium terrorist attacks.he cannot wipe the smirk on his face as he relates his experience, with no regard whatsoever of all those unfortunately affected by the attacks.
in fact, he personally found god's hand affecting him personally, allowing him to attend the memorial as planned and a kh dedication.he is that privileged during his flight travels that internet was available to him, enabling him to catch up on current news and to contact branch's.
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Room 215: it's now that the gb members only feature on every other jw tv show the bullshit is building up...
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Nobody at work knows what JWs believe
by Athanasius inrecently susie, one of my co-workers mentioned that her husband's family were all jws.
the family converted after susie's husband left home, so he never joined the jws, nor does he intend to.
anyway another co-worker asked her: "what do the jws believe?".
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bohm
Never a jw but fairly informed about current events. I didnt even know about birthdayes lol.
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Mark Sanderson Talk re Belgium visit
by Listener inthe degradation of the governing body members continues on.
mark sanderson gives a talk regarding his visit to belgium for the memorial this year and was travelling from korea to munich to brussels, belgium on the day of the belgium terrorist attacks.he cannot wipe the smirk on his face as he relates his experience, with no regard whatsoever of all those unfortunately affected by the attacks.
in fact, he personally found god's hand affecting him personally, allowing him to attend the memorial as planned and a kh dedication.he is that privileged during his flight travels that internet was available to him, enabling him to catch up on current news and to contact branch's.
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bohm
Man, the smugness is killing me.
Somewhere in heaven:
Jehovah: Satan, you remember that time with Job?
satan: yah how can i forget, you keep mentioning it..
Jehovah: rematch?
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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!
by purrpurr init seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!
the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?
there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?
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If they don't leave for one reason or another, imagine what will happen with UKIP in the next election? "the political elite stole our election to please the germans". I don't think that's viable internally in Britain, but then again I don't live there.
What's needed is some way to overcome the emotionally driven, xenophobic right-wing factions that are springing up across Europe and create a positive European identity. I got no idea how.
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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!
by purrpurr init seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!
the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?
there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?
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Man who voted for Leave says he thought his vote ‘wouldn’t count’ and is now ‘worried’
In related news, man told his wife she is a "fat cow", now wonders why she is angry.
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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!
by purrpurr init seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!
the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?
there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?
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SBF: It's a bloody mess, but some time has to elapse before it will be possible to know what will happen (what the leave/join procedure for Scotland would look like), right now I could imagine much of it is emotionally driven by being "dragged out" by the UK. Most of all I hope common sense prevails in NI. That's one conflict I wish never to see again in my lifetime...