OrphanCrow: It is true correlation does not imply causation but it's usually indicative of it. One could for instance compare Sweeden with Norway (roughly similar but with far less immigrants) and that might allow stronger conclusions to be drawn.
Posts by bohm
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155Headline: "Islamic Invasion: Europe now scrambles for guns." How true is this?
by cappytan ina year to a year and a half ago, i would have taken this article at face value and believed it.. now, i realize this article comes from a dubious source.
world news daily has a die-hard right-wing bias.
so, in an effort to get real information, i'm asking my european exjw's, is this article all true?
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I have 5 Audible credits I need to use up. Recommendations?
by nicolaou insomething to make me think or laugh.
i've done the hitchens, dawkins, harris thing and as much as i rate them i'd like to move off at a tangent .
always enjoy philosophy or even something with a theological bent.. i'm coming to the end of heretic by ayaan hirsi ali and can thoroughly recommend it.. c'mon guys, don't let me down .
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Thanks for the recommendations Diogenesister, I am trying to find more books about philosophy and will definitely check those out. -
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The thousand mile bullshit stare
by bohm inanyone else tired of this wt cliche?.
"a certain young man named eutychus sat in the window, weighed down with deep sleep.
as paul spoke still longer, being weighed down by his sleep, he fell down from the third story and was taken up dead".
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freemindfade: Lol, good catch! It seems like there were fewer bullshit stares in 2012, perhaps the bible was less profound back then?
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The thousand mile bullshit stare
by bohm inanyone else tired of this wt cliche?.
"a certain young man named eutychus sat in the window, weighed down with deep sleep.
as paul spoke still longer, being weighed down by his sleep, he fell down from the third story and was taken up dead".
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freemindfade: hahahaha. The donkeys and horses work with ALL the images on this thread!
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The thousand mile bullshit stare
by bohm inanyone else tired of this wt cliche?.
"a certain young man named eutychus sat in the window, weighed down with deep sleep.
as paul spoke still longer, being weighed down by his sleep, he fell down from the third story and was taken up dead".
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Lol @ GoneAwol
"You will be cursed in the town and cursed in the field. A curse will be on your basket and on your bread-basin. A curse will be on the fruit of your body, and on the fruit of your land, on the increase of your cattle, and the young of your flock. You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out. The Lord will send on you cursing and trouble and punishment in everything to which you put your hand"
So profound Jehovah, this is bringing so much joy in my hearth
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The thousand mile bullshit stare
by bohm inanyone else tired of this wt cliche?.
"a certain young man named eutychus sat in the window, weighed down with deep sleep.
as paul spoke still longer, being weighed down by his sleep, he fell down from the third story and was taken up dead".
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"And the sons of Gomer; Ashchenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. The sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, Put, and Canaan. The sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabta, and Raamah, and Sabtecha. And the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. And Cush begat Nimrod:"
I have been reading this passage for hours. This is so profound my mind has gone blank!
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The thousand mile bullshit stare
by bohm inanyone else tired of this wt cliche?.
"a certain young man named eutychus sat in the window, weighed down with deep sleep.
as paul spoke still longer, being weighed down by his sleep, he fell down from the third story and was taken up dead".
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"Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family linethrough our father.”
33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up."
This is the best thing i ever read!
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Give me 5 minutes to explain...
by pixel ini keep thinking about the time i will "come out" and tell my wife about this sick cult.
i don't know when that day will come, but knowing me i will seat down with her and ask her for 5 minutes to explain to her why we as a family has to get out.
my question is: what will you tell somebody in 5 minutes, that will convince that perdon that this is not a good religion to follow and that we have been deceived?.
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I heard that if you try to lay out TTATT all at once to a believing family member without having first read Steven Hassans books Lett will show up in your dreams. And he will be nude.
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Give me 5 minutes to explain...
by pixel ini keep thinking about the time i will "come out" and tell my wife about this sick cult.
i don't know when that day will come, but knowing me i will seat down with her and ask her for 5 minutes to explain to her why we as a family has to get out.
my question is: what will you tell somebody in 5 minutes, that will convince that perdon that this is not a good religion to follow and that we have been deceived?.
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cross-posted with cappytan. I want to underline what cappytan pointed out, that you need to figure out what "works" with your wife and reach out for here where she is. -
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Give me 5 minutes to explain...
by pixel ini keep thinking about the time i will "come out" and tell my wife about this sick cult.
i don't know when that day will come, but knowing me i will seat down with her and ask her for 5 minutes to explain to her why we as a family has to get out.
my question is: what will you tell somebody in 5 minutes, that will convince that perdon that this is not a good religion to follow and that we have been deceived?.
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pixel: It depends who the person is, if it is an outsider or someone who is in (like your wife). In your situation, i would *not* prepare a five minute talk and most *definetely* not with anything critical of the org. I think I would tell her about my doubts and ask her if this was something she felt you two could talk about and if so how. I would not tell her my full state of mind immediately.
Have you read books about cults and mind control? (for instance Steven Hassan?).
If you want to prepare to talk to her, a book i might recommend is actually "A manual for creating atheists". I don't know if you are christian or not and (despite the title of the book) I don't think it matters for this purpose. If you look beyond the "atheist street preacher" aspect (and idea which I think is pretty silly btw) I think it contains some good practical advice for talking with people about faith using the socratic method (which Steven Hassan also recommends) which is useful for undermining totalitarian faith-based views like the JWs.
