Posts by cattails

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Does the name Jehovah actually exist in the original Hebrew language?

by Yizuman in

source: http://www.familybible.org/articles/messianic/jehovah.htm.

well, then, where did the word jehovah come from?.

thus the artificial name jehovah came into being.. (yahweh, the new encyclopedia britannica, vol.

cattails

why are we making an issue over pronouncing Jehovah the hebrew way when we use the English version of Jesus that is definitely not pronounced as the original?

Exactly! Good point.

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Does the name Jehovah actually exist in the original Hebrew language?

by Yizuman in

source: http://www.familybible.org/articles/messianic/jehovah.htm.

well, then, where did the word jehovah come from?.

thus the artificial name jehovah came into being.. (yahweh, the new encyclopedia britannica, vol.

cattails

Yahweh is not 2 sylables in Hebrew, it is in fact 4, phonetically speaking: YeYahOuWeh

That's just plain wrong. Do you even realize the nonsense you just spewed?

Good grief!

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As of July 1st No more reimbursements directly to CO's etc. from congregations.

by cattails in

well if i read it correctly it seems that at the spanish extj.com forum.

there's a letter (in spanish of course) saying there's a change in the.

way reimbursement of expenses are going to be made for co's, and.

cattails

Well if I read it correctly it seems that at the Spanish ExTJ.com forum

there's a letter (in Spanish of course) saying there's a change in the

way reimbursement of expenses are going to be made for CO's, and

others. The new arrangement I think is that the CO will send his amount

for expenses to the Branch and then the Branch will bill the congregations.

There's not going to be any more secret contributions to the CO's or so

it seems to say. What do you think? No more green handshakes?

http://www.extjforo.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14346

SUP.VIAJANTES-SUS GASTOS LOS PAGARÁ LA SUCURSAL-2009-1.pdf (259.1 KB)

http://www.extjforo.com/foro/attachment.php?attachmentid=4195&d=1247236869

SUP.VIAJANTES-SUS GASTOS LOS PAGARÁ LA SUCURSAL-2009-2.pdf (88.5 KB)

http://www.extjforo.com/foro/attachment.php?attachmentid=4196&d=1247236894

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I can't take it anymore ...

by compound complex in

weak coffee.

i use drip and never seem to get the measurement right.

at the moment i'm on high octane, shifting into high gear .... i believe this morning's brew is akin to espresso in volatility.. any suggestions as to an exact quantity of cafe per 8-cup coffee maker?.

cattails

I like to use a flat-table-spoon-full per cup of water.

If you like it stronger use a slightly rounded table-spoon-full.

That seems to work for my drip CoffeMate.

I used to have a little espresso machine that you set on the

gas stove, it had several parts to it and it looked like an hour

glass shape of sorts, made out of thick aluminum I think.

It made excellent coffee. But it got lost in one of the moves

to another house, sigh! Someone someplace is probably

sipping good espresso as a result, oh well.

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Does the name Jehovah actually exist in the original Hebrew language?

by Yizuman in

source: http://www.familybible.org/articles/messianic/jehovah.htm.

well, then, where did the word jehovah come from?.

thus the artificial name jehovah came into being.. (yahweh, the new encyclopedia britannica, vol.

cattails

Look Undie, I'm not the one misunderstanding anything about it here.

When you translate a name you use whichever pronunciation is common in that language.

If you translate Peter into Spanish then you get Pedro. Which one is the correct pronunciation?

They are both correct, you *&%$!

The traditional name in English for the Hebrew tetragram is Jehovah. As long as the four

consonants are represented JHVH/YHWH then the name is translated, if you like the

more scholastic Yahweh or the more traditional Jehovah is entirely up to you.

Ancient Hebrew didn't use vowel markers only later were the vowel points added

and sometimes the vowel points match (a bit) with Adonay or with Elohim, but a lot

of the time they match with Shema, so the Adonay superstition is just some guy's

explanation that suited his fancy.

If you want to keep arguing about it go ahead. But I suggest you read up from more

than the idiotic sources you're using now.

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Does the name Jehovah actually exist in the original Hebrew language?

by Yizuman in

source: http://www.familybible.org/articles/messianic/jehovah.htm.

well, then, where did the word jehovah come from?.

thus the artificial name jehovah came into being.. (yahweh, the new encyclopedia britannica, vol.

cattails

PS, how is it not a translation? Who says it isn't a translation?

Do people who say Jehovah mean the same entity as Ancient

Hebrews who wrote the tetragram? I think certainly think so.

Do people who say Jesus today mean the same person as those

who pronounced the name in Greek, or Hebrew, or Aramaic or

even Latin in Jesus own day? I think certainly think so.

The pronunciation issue is a very misunderstood point and this

thread is being discussed by people who persist in making stupid

points. I'm really getting fed up with the nonsense.

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Does the name Jehovah actually exist in the original Hebrew language?

by Yizuman in

source: http://www.familybible.org/articles/messianic/jehovah.htm.

well, then, where did the word jehovah come from?.

thus the artificial name jehovah came into being.. (yahweh, the new encyclopedia britannica, vol.

cattails

Jehovah is the English transliteration of the Hebrew letters for God's name.

There is no "Jesus" in Hebrew or Greek, there's no Peter, those are English

names. They are approximate transliterations of the names so that they fit

in with English pronunciations... In Spanish the name of God is pronounced

Hay-Oh-BAH, and Jesus as Hay-SOOS, and Peter is Pay-DROH.

So the pronunciation isn't important if the people know who you're referring to

and if that's the way it is traditionally pronounced in that particular language.

So it may have been Yahweh in Ancient Hebrew, but it's ok to say Jehovah in

modern English, and Jehová (pronounced Hay-Oh-BAH) in modern Spanish.

The thing with the substitution of vowels doesn't matter, Hebrew pronunciation

today isn't what it was in Abraham's, nor Moses, not even King David's day.

Heck, English pronunciation today has changed from what it was through

the centuries... (It's a you say toe-may-doe I say toe-mah-toe kind of thing).

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1942 Consolation on Beth Sarim PDF

by cabasilas in

the may 27, 1942 consolation (the precusor to awake!

) contained a lengthy 16 page article about the failed attempts of the watchtower society to bury judge rutherford at his beloved home in san diego, beth sarim.

it contains a fascinating look into the place beth sarim held for jws during this period.