Posts by cattails

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DO Rodrigues/ROD-ricks commenting on JWN discussions and apostate having some Troof.

by cattails in

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what a flurry of interesting topics on jwn lately!

my oh my.. i haven't posted in the last few days... nor read the forum.. this last week i was back east visiting friends in the troof.. lucky for me it was assembly time, so packing and going to.

natick assembly hall (boston, ma), and caught the sunday.

cattails

This guy sounds familiar.

This is his first District Overseers post. Before that he was Circuit Overseer in

this same area from what it sounds like. I don't have many details on the other

brother, the one who was manhandling himself at work, other than that it happened

while Brother Rodrigues (ROD-rix) was a CO. His re-appointment was railroaded

through the old BOE where his previous wife and children live still.

The current CO was a little man, real tiny, think little Napoleon, he had a booming

and in your face type of voice and seemed to want to out-do the DO in making his

point against apostates and other denigrates. For some reason this CO Scott Henry

and the DO really went after people with homes, saying the counsel was to sell and

simplify and if we listened we'd be happier people, but look at the sad situation in

the world. There were several examples of people losing work, or hours getting

cut back who decided to auxiliary instead of looking for full time employment, and

the supportive applause was always forthcoming from the audience.

This little CO is the one who has deleted dozens of 'older' elders in the circuit, even

the Dad of the family I stayed with, and in one of his talks was complaining more

elders were needed and how so many new elders under 40 were appointed yet

many more are needed in the congregations. Well duh! If he didn't delete elders

and experienced ones at that he wouldn't have to complain. But I think he meant

new elders who are first of all company men who won't ask or complain when Mamma

WT says to do something.

If you don't have a home mortgage, how can you get home equity, so when you're

older you have something to fall back on. Or if you only work full time (like I'm doing)

how do you get medical insurance and retirement income? This DO and CO duo are

just setting people up to have a very meager old age, because they are blind

believers in a Corporation's promise that lookie-here the end of this system is

imminent.

What about all the real estate projects the WTS has going on right now and the

future plans for expansion in NY State? Why don't they simplify and provide

retirement accounts for Bethel workers? Why don't they take their own advice?

Is this guy Portuguese?

In name only, he doesn't even speak Portuguese (he's second generation).

I wanted to learn more about him but that's all I could find out. Anyone from

Massachusetts Area that can add more info?

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DO Rodrigues/ROD-ricks commenting on JWN discussions and apostate having some Troof.

by cattails in

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what a flurry of interesting topics on jwn lately!

my oh my.. i haven't posted in the last few days... nor read the forum.. this last week i was back east visiting friends in the troof.. lucky for me it was assembly time, so packing and going to.

natick assembly hall (boston, ma), and caught the sunday.

cattails

brushed under the carpet just like catholic priests who love little boys.

One cute single brother was talking to the Dad of the family I stayed with and this

guy looked like he was brimming and to the point of wetting himself with glee

talking about how the Catholic Church's latest scandal may bring the Pope down.

I wanted to jump in and mention the thousands upon thousands of child abuse

cases the WT has had to settle and paid lots of contribution money for as a result

of hiding pedophiles in the congregations... I wanted to, but I yet didn't want to. it

was weird, I just wanted to look at his pretty but manly clean shaven face and

without registering in my mind the stupid things that came out of his mouth.

Sometimes I think like JWs feel like they're expected to say and repeat stupid even

biased, hateful, and wrong things just to affirm that they are the only ones' who

got it right and every other religion is false, all others are morons for following their

religious leaders and wickedly worthy of dying because they don't wake up. But

it's exactly the behavior, and frame of mind, that JWs exhibit.

And yeah, Rodrigues / ROD-ricks is moving out to District 2, he'll have Walkill and

Patterson in his new assignment. The WTS seems to favor the sort of wacko blind

believer and indoctrinator that "ROD-ricks" represents, he seems like a real company

man, even going on about the Governing Body representing the Faithful and Discreet

Slave and how it was sooooo accurate that the Governing Body told us back in 2006

that we should not get into heavy debt... even suggesting to us that we simplify our

living arrangements, perhaps selling our expensive homes and renting instead so as

to not be burdened and look what happened to the economy. If we had sold out of

our homes back when we read this counsel we would be so much better off now. He

actually said this, I couldn't believe it, I just rolled my eyes, and looked around at all

the numbed faces around the Assembly Hall.

What does ROD-ricks know about life anyway? He's been provided with an appartment,

a brand new car every couple of years, all his meals taken care of, medical insurance,

life insurance, accident insurance, car insurance, and retirement. What does he know

about having to earn a living nowadays, putting down people who live on credit, and

scrounge to make payments every month? What does he have to pay? Does he pay

for his car? for his furnished appartment? for his new laptop? for his Amazon Kindle?

And the fact that he doesn't even want his name pronounced like it should be, and wants

to Americanize it with an English pronunciation goes to show how disconnected he is from

his ethnic background. He's a true Mamma WT's boy, even right down to his shiny

laundered and professionally fitted suit... who pays for his laundering bill? You know he's

aiming for a higher post in the corporate WT ladder. His condescending manner is so obvious.

I had like to know where is the newspaper story

I was told it was in a local newspaper. From what I was told during the ride back from the

Assembly Hall, this guy was still an elder when he had an affair with a worldly woman.

He left his wife and kids, moved in with the new girlfriend, the wife got a divorce and sued

for child support. I think that what the paper said was only about his appearing in court

and having to pay a fine for being found by a police officer fully disrobed at his workplace

and masturbating from behind his office window, there were witnesses. I can't remember

exactly what I was told appeared in the paper each time his name showed up but those

are the details I couldn't get out of my mind. Can you imagine a neighbor calling the cops

on this guy you see naked and masturbating, looking out of his office window to unsuspecting

passersby below, and the cops catching him in flagrante delicto, ehem, red handed???

And then he shows up at your door, trying to place the WT and Awake!

I'll email tonight and ask about that, but I can't be too obviously interested, if you know what

I mean. I'll try to get more info on it though.

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DO Rodrigues/ROD-ricks commenting on JWN discussions and apostate having some Troof.

by cattails in

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what a flurry of interesting topics on jwn lately!

my oh my.. i haven't posted in the last few days... nor read the forum.. this last week i was back east visiting friends in the troof.. lucky for me it was assembly time, so packing and going to.

natick assembly hall (boston, ma), and caught the sunday.

cattails

What a flurry of interesting topics on JWN lately! My oh my.

I haven't posted in the last few days... nor read the forum.

This last week I was back East visiting friends in the Troof.

Lucky for me it was Assembly time, so packing and going to

Natick Assembly Hall (Boston, MA), and caught the Sunday

session. The family breaks it up into two weekends, going

one week on Saturday and another on Sunday, a comfortable

arrangement, I thought. Besides it left Saturday to go shopping.

At the CA one of the last talks was by this DO named Rodrigues

who likes his name pronounced ROD-ricks. He actually said that

on an APOSTATE WEBSITE THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF A RECENT

WT ARTICLE... AND THAT THEY ALWAYS THROW IN SOME TRUTH,

JUST LIKE SATAN IN THE GARDEN WITH "is it really so that God

said you may not eat from all of the trees in the garden?" AND

THAT THE APOSTATES WERE FINDING FAULT THAT THE DISCUSSION

OF THE WATCHTOWER WAS ABOUT A MAN WHO WAS AN ADULTERER

AND A MURDERER, AND THEY'RE RIGHT UNTIL YOU REALIZE THEY

MEANT KING DAVID.

Well, what the heck! Who told him what was going on in Apostate Website Discussions? Which JW was reading the forums? Was it him?

And if some active JW was monitoring the apostate forums how is that allowed? or condoned by the WTS? Doesn't this DO realize by saying what he says he makes it obvious that someone in the Troof is keeping tabs on what goes on at Apostate Website Discussions?

This is the same guy who re appointed an elder who'd left his wife, and was on the local newspaper twice for being arrested for sexually exposing himself in public. Then just three years later because he was good golf and work buddies with the service committee in his new congregation he was re-appointed as an elder. The family I stayed with knows this elder's previous family and they couldn't get over it.

It's always interesting to see how there's sick problems in the WT organization no matter where you go, three thousand miles away and still the same. The good-ol-boy network covering up and the wreckage of broken families swept under the rug by hypocritical DOs and COs who only care about their control and their petty WT approved titles of privilege.

Well, at least the shopping was fun. It feels good to do one's share for the economy. Buy "American" -- stay away from Walmarts! Also it was good to visit a JW family who don't let themselves be brainwashed to the point of sacrificing their lives to a Publishing Corporation.

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CO visit provides preview of April generation change!

by agent zero in

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i thought the april wt's brazen generation doctrine change would barely get an official mention before nor after the two paragraphs that deal with it, but yesterday i went to the circuit overseer's visit and in a talk from a bethel outline, he specifically mentioned the change, and i quote... "the very very very newest information we have available, from the april 15th 2010 watchtower!

" ..reads the infamous paragraphs.. and then, "isn't that wonderful brothers and sisters?

so now we understand that it means that brother russell's life overlapped with brother rutherford's who's life overlapped (he went through them all), so clearly, this means the end is near.".

cattails

Honestly, I don't understand why they bothered to bring up the subject or what they hope to accomplish by pointing Witless attention to this prophetic failure.

I think I do understand why they do bother to bring this generation subject up.

It's probably meant as a filtering out of those who aren't truly convinced and brainwashed.

If you're conscious of the WTS lies then you'd probably get so sick of the nonsense that you'd

end up leaving the 'fold'. That way they're left with the un-thinking, un-questioning drones who'd

do anything for Mamma WT.

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Healthcare reform has passed and is signed into law... this is a Big F*cking Deal!

by Elsewhere in

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just ask our vice president joe biden.

once again, he has put his foot in his mouth by dropping the f-bomb when he shakes obama's hand.. granted... i'll take biden's "this is a big f*cking deal" over dick cheney's "go f*ck yourself" any day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqenikp1rj8.

cattails

Yay! I'm glad it's on!

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What is Truth?

by AK - Jeff in

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if one 'googles' the phrase, you get 167,000,000 hits!.

'bing' it, and you get 129,000,000 hits.. here is a sampling of opinion from just the first page of google hits.. 1] douglas groothuis, ph.d., teaches philosophy at denver seminary.

here is his 'take' on truth: http://www.leaderu.com/theology/groothuis-truth.html.

cattails

"a friend to man, to whom thou say'st,

'Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all

Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know"

--John Keats, Ode on a Grecian Urn

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RE: 'I have been through anguish' - DEFAMATION CASE AT WEXFORD CIRCUIT CIVIL COURT

by cattails in

he said he had not met adam ballard for a number of years.

adam also conveyed the details and accused me of raping him in navan and other places.

it was also supposed to have happened in some woods.

cattails

Father and sons fail in their defamation case

COURT HEARD ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE

http://www.newrossstandard.ie/premium/news/father-and-sons-fail-in-their-defamation-case-2103829.html

Wednesday March 17 2010

A FATHER and three sons failed in their defamation action brought against a fellow member of the Jehovah Witnesses when judgement was delivered at Kilkenny Circuit Court on Wednesday last.

And is that your real pic 'cattails'? If so, I salute you.

I salute you back.

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Ireland

by asilentone in

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i have never been to ireland.

i might go to ireland one day.

.

cattails

US President John F. Kennedy greeting Josip Broz Tito during his visit to the US

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Marshal_Tito_Greeting_President_John_Kennedy.jpg/150px-Marshal_Tito_Greeting_President_John_Kennedy.jpg

Zid, do you know the man with this young Irish guy?

Yup! That's Tito, not the Jackson one

but the dictator like the one in your avatar:

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Ireland

by asilentone in

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i have never been to ireland.

i might go to ireland one day.

.

cattails

Check out what's been jabbing the WT branch there lately?

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/189895/1/RE-I-have-been-through-anguish-DEFAMATION-CASE-AT-WEXFORD-CIRCUIT-CIVIL-COURT

"A FATHER and three sons spoke of their shock and hurt when a fellow member of the Jehovah's Witnesses community in New Ross alleged he had been raped by them. William O'Connor, of Corcoran's Lane, Irishtown, New Ross, and sons Michael, John and Gerard O'Connor, all of the same address, brought a defamation case against Adam Ballard, with an address of Clonmore, Clareen, Birr, Co. Offaly, before Judge Alice Doyle at Wexford Circuit Civil Court..."

Choosing the Best Way of Life -- Hold to Your Choice!

by cattails in

along with this sad attempt at explaining away.

the 1975 fiasco, and excusing error although.

without actually coming out and accepting blame.

cattails

Along with this sad attempt at explaining away

the 1975 fiasco, and excusing error although

without actually coming out and accepting blame

or asking forgiveness, the WT writing department

as overseen by the GB of the tumultuous year of

1980 came out with a precious quote (paragraph 6):

"6 In its issue of July 15, 1976, The Watchtower, commenting on the inadvisability of setting our sights on a certain date, stated: “If anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises.” In saying “anyone,” The Watchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah’s Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date."

The wording is hard to follow. But notice that it jabs

at the fact that those in HQ were also "disappointed".

What strikes me as obvious is the fact that they are

trying to hide and at the same time trying to let out

information about their obvious shame in setting up

hopes that were erroneous and turned out to be only

empty expectations and failed prophecies.

Why don't they have the cojones to say we were wrong. We apologize. We learned our lesson. Why not?

I think the reason is they are drunk with their power and control, they are beating their fellow slaves by

setting up a two class Christian congregation, (The GB who represents WT 'genuine anointed ones', and secondly,

everyone else who follows them), and then they act behind the scenes as if the end isn't really coming so soon,

demonstrated by their landholdings and real estate maneuverings all over the globe.

Here's more from that article, it's a keeper.

*** w80 3/15 pp. 17-18 Choosing the Best Way of Life ***

Hold to Your Choice!

4 If we remain faithful, God will not let us make ruinous mistakes. But sometimes he permits us to be in error so that we may see our need to look always to him and his Word. This strengthens our relationship with him and our endurance while waiting. We learn from our mistakes that it is necessary to be more careful in the future. The desire for the new system of things to take complete charge of the earth has always been very strong in Christians down through the centuries. And because of their own short life-span, they doubtless longed for it to come in their particular lifetime. Those who have tried to keep God’s judgment time “close in mind” have, on more than one occasion throughout history, become overly eager for that day’s arrival, in their own minds trying to rush the arrival of the desired events. (2 Pet. 3:12) In the first century, for example, the apostle Paul found it necessary to write to Christians in Thessalonica in this fashion, as we read at 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3: “However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”

5 In modern times such eagerness, commendable in itself, has led to attempts at setting dates for the desired liberation from the suffering and troubles that are the lot of persons throughout the earth. With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting—in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man’s existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility. Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility. It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a buildup of the expectation already initiated.

6 In its issue of July 15, 1976, The Watchtower, commenting on the inadvisability of setting our sights on a certain date, stated: “If anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises.” In saying “anyone,” The Watchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah’s Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date.

7 Nevertheless, there is no reason for us to be shaken in faith in God’s promises. Rather, as a consequence, we are all moved to make a closer examination of the Scriptures regarding this matter of a day of judgment. In doing so, we find that the important thing is not the date. What is important is our keeping ever in mind that there is such a day—and it is getting closer and it will require an accounting on the part of all of us. Peter said that Christians should rightly be “awaiting and keeping close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah.” (2 Pet. 3:12) It is not a certain date ahead; it is day-to-day living on the part of the Christian that is important. He must not live a single day without having in mind that he is under Jehovah’s loving care and direction and must submit himself thereto, keeping also in mind that he must account for his acts.

8 Jesus gave the reason why we should maintain such a viewpoint, saying: “For the Son of man is destined to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he will recompense each one according to his behavior.” (Matt. 16:27) The apostle Paul also pointed out: “We shall all stand before the judgment seat of God . . . So, then, each of us will render an account for himself to God.” (Rom. 14:10-12) And, “we must all be made manifest before the judgment seat of the Christ, that each one may get his award for the things done through the body, according to the things he has practiced, whether it is good or vile.” (2 Cor. 5:10) How long do we have before making such an accounting? Jesus said: “He that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.” (Matt. 24:13) When is “the end”? That end can come either at the end of this system of things or at the individual’s own death before then. How long, then, does each one of us have? No one can calculate the day when he will die. Likewise, Jesus said to his apostles about the time for establishing God’s kingdom: “It does not belong to you to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction.” (Acts 1:7) It is impossible for us to figure out the world’s end in advance.