Posts by Heaven

Lots of changes in JW world over the last couple of years. Of course, 100 years of no Armageddon is starting to wear thin. I saw long ago that the Watchtower was hurting families as I went through this in the 1990s. Their 'kick your unbelieving family to the curb' phase was particularly brutal for some. What I have found in life is that the real truth does eventually come out. Not many abusers are able to sustain anonymity forever. They get bolder when they have initial success but eventually, they slip up and others begin to see what they are really like.

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Apostasy and Pedophile Scandal are Spreading

by cookiemaster in

so here's an interesting thing that happened lately.

if you guys have followed my previous posts, you probably know my mother almost died from severe anemia, decided to take blood transfusions to avoid death and the elders announced the congregation she disassociated.

last week a "brother" came to visit from a congo about 100 kilometers away.

Heaven

cookiemaster, that elder sounds like a genuine person. This religion needs to innovate and change or either have another schism occur or die out altogether. I think the schism or splintering is already underway. It has been called 'the Conscious Class' for one. It will be interesting to see the next stage of Evolution for this group.

The only result from oppression is revolution and change.

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Talking to Jesus

by Kiana in

hi.. do jehovah's witnesses talk to jesus?.

thanks..

Heaven

Hi Kiana and welcome. I call JW's 'Jehovans' instead of 'Christians'. Blondie is correct. They believe they must speak to Jehovah (aka Jehoopla) through Jesus. Their prayers all start "Heavenly Father Jehovah.... blah blah blah ..." and end with "through the office of your Son, our King and Redeemer, amen" (or something to that effect). They ALWAYS pray to Jehoopla.

Theodicy is a major issue with many non-believers who once believed or others that just didn't buy into the fantasy. Researching pre-Christian ancient beliefs opens one's eyes to where it all came from. There were once many Gods and Goddesses. Some cultures still believe this. It is a method ancient humans used to define their world. But reality alone refutes the claims present day religions make. Add to it the advances in our knowledge in all disciplines such as Science, Mathematics, Geology, Biology, Astronomy, Archeology etc, etc and this makes accepting mythology as truth impossible.

It's called faith because it isn't knowledge.

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Maureen O'Hara Aug.17, 1920 – Oct.24, 2015

by glenster in

"what's my line mystery guest maureen o'hara" by loco muskrat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmentzzb1we.

"the quiet man (1952) full comedy movie | john wayne full movie" by bryantwashington https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rwx8mafdhk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/maureen_o%27hara.

Heaven

She was 95. One of my faves.

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is there trully a GOD

by piledriver in

the answer every person and religion wants to know is .

is there trully a god no false prophets yes .theres two many to even think about who just want your money and time to spread there evil word .no god is more important in this lifetime that you have on this world than the love you recive and give to your real family .

anyone who is a jehovah's witnesses trully knows they are in a cult not a religion minipulated and threatend with emotional blackmail and pain it makes them feed off your sadness and manipulate there flock into beiving this what jehovah ( false prophet) wants pure sanctamonius bullshit read the book shepard the flock of god charles teze russle was the founder but and since jesus is the founder of chrisianity the organisation regard him as the true founder of there fake faith plus he c.t russle was a child molester .

Heaven

God is a figment of the human imagination.

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What Written & Unwritten Rules Do Jehovah's Witnesses Have?

by minimus in

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friends

jws should "not go beyond what is written".. please list examples of how they do not follow that bible instruction..

Heaven

Reporting Field Serve-Us time.

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Hello from an exmormon

by Cold-Dodger in

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friends

someone named john free popped in on one of my posts at exmormon[dot]com and mentioned this website.

i have a lot of questions.

i never knew much about about the jw church.

Heaven

Welcome Cold-Dodger! Thank you for sharing some of your story. Were you born-in to the Mormon religion? It seems many born-ins leave their religion when it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I would be an example of that re: JWs although technically, I was never a formal JW as I never got baptized. I was certainly raised in it though.

The JW belief that 'Armageddon is coming soon' is rather embarrassing. Over 100 years is not 'soon' or 'imminent', nor 'closer than the inside of your eyelids'. And their shunning of disfellowshipped and others, as well as their blood doctrine has hurt many. I lost a cousin because she refused a blood transfusion. She left behind a husband and 3 children.

We tell them that these feelings mean the Book of Mormon is true and Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God.

Just to be clear, Joseph Smith was a fraudster but I am not sure many Mormon's are aware of that. Why would God pick someone with this type of lowbrow morals as one of his prophets? And the golden tablets/plates... where are they?

anyone who doesn't pull their wait and do exactly as they are told is a shame to themselves and treated accordingly by the most Puritanical religious society you have ever been a part of.

In JW world, you are called 'a weak Witness' and are typically 'shepherded' by the elders when this occurs. If you persist in being an issue, they will disfellowship you - aka kick you out, label you 'Disfellowshipped' and possibly 'Apostate', and shun you. My uncle was disfellowshipped in the early 1990s. I am not sure why but I suspect he didn't agree with some doctrine. He was reinstated after the elders that kicked him out got kicked out themselves. There seem to be a lot of politics in this religion.

When I was little, my Mom was the one who was more strong in the faith than my Dad. He wasn't a big fan of religion at all. The JW religion was introduced to the family in the 1950s when my maternal grandfather converted from being a Catholic to a JW. The JW hardbound yearly volumes/books in my parent's bookcase start at 1960. We were kind of 'fringe' JWs when I was a kid. We still celebrated the holidays and us kids did mostly normal kid things like play sports and go to movies etc. We didn't go to the Hall except for the Memorial and I only remember going a couple of times. I think my Dad's disdain of religion kept a more even keel in our household when I was young. It wasn't until me and my brothers grew up and left home that our parents decided to become 'zealous' and get 'dedicated' (aka baptized) as JWs. Things were rather rough after that as they became mean-spirited and holier-than-thou towards us on many occasions.

Children have built in BS meters. As I got older, mine kept going off. For example, the JW claim that they are preaching to all the inhabited Earth. The math just didn't add up. There just aren't enough JWs compared to the world's population for them to be doing this. This is still true today.

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Canada may get a new government today

by Simon in

the us elections suck up all the attention (and it's not even at the candidate selection stage!

) but canada actually has a national election today.. first results are starting to come in and so far it's all liberal party.. i think it's time harper and the conservatives got the boot.

last premiere from the bush era.

Heaven

Be "worried" about your money I guess if you have to

Wow, is the person who said this independently wealthy? As one gets closer and closer to retirement, one tends to worry about their money more and more. It isn't an infinitely deep well.

Also, Trudeau has said he is pulling our troops out of Syria. I don't think this is a good idea either.