Posts by Heaven
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Proceedings and Decievings
by Coded Logic inyou may be seated.. peter mcclellan: now, mr. ministerial servant, as i understand it, you are authorized to make decisions in regards to child abuse cases?.
now, mr. elder, as i understand, it you are authorized to make decisions in regards to child abuse cases?.
now, mr. slick, as i understand it, you are authorized to make decisions in regards to child abuse cases?.
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Heaven
Coded Logic, that is awesome! You should email this to Angus Stewart, maybe even Peter McClellan. -
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The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!
by Calebs Airplane inthe rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).
the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.
that is all..
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Heaven
In my email to Angus Stewart, I eluded to this fact. Unless there are laws enacted, they aren't going to change, especially having women conducting leadership roles or JCs. -
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My book......
by punkofnice in...is now on kindle with the paperback to follow soon.. thanks to you all for your contributions.
any questions, please pm me.. .
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Heaven
punky, way to go! I will check it out when the paperback is available. I am a lover of books... the physical kind. Just something about the feel of it... the weight, the cover and paper, the smell of it including the binding and ink.
edited to add... oh ... and the best part... the look. I love pics and illustrations.
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Jwfacts tv appearance
by sparrowdown inshout out to jwfacts.. just saw the drum.
excellent job !
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Heaven
Paul, well done!
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ARC: why the contstant secrecy?
by SecretSlaveClass inanyone watching the inquiry would have heard the org's attorney asking that the documents outlining the stucture and mechanics of the wbts be kept confidential.
all this subversive and clandestine behavior is not helping their image.
what do you all suppose is potentially damnimg in these documents?
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Heaven
I'd say there can be a couple of reasons:
1) They have something they don't want publicly known or at least known by JWs.
2) They want it to appear they have uber important info. in order to maintain their level of importance and therefore control over JWs.
Secrecy is usually a tool maintained and used by leaders of a group to ensure a certain level of control over the members of that group.
I suspect an update to the Flock book will have to be made as it is now public. That was their uber secret elder handbook which is not so secret any longer (even though we all had access to it years ago too).
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Is Geoffrey W. Jackson a "ringer"? Was he sent coached how to testify? Is this a setup? I think so.
by Wasanelder Once inif you have heard g. jackson speak you can tell that he is smooth.
he is a good speaker with a commanding voice.
i think the gb knew this was going to happen and prepped him to testify.
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Heaven
It seems rather odd that one of the mouthpieces of Jehovah would be afraid of a little secular commission? After all, Jackson has the Almighty on his side who can channel advice to him at will!
Once again, things aren't adding up here.
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Cult Free Radio RETURNS
by Mad Sweeney inhalf the people here have probably never heard of it in the first place.
nevertheless, it's coming back.
this saturday at 10pm eastern time.
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Heaven
Cool!
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Heaven
If shunning is a loving provision from Jehovah, then he's a d!ckhead. Something I also concluded when I was a teenager.
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Mandatory reporting and misprision
by Xanthippe inday 7 of the australian royal commission has chair justice peter mcclellan raising the point that i have been wondering about all along, which is, how can these elders not report child abuse to the authorities especially when a full confession has taken place?.
justice mcclellan asked toole, the wts's lawyer, if he is aware that there is a difference between an organisation being required to have mandatory reporting of child abuse to the authorities and misprision which is the concealment of a felony, itself a criminal offence?
toole says he is aware of it now but he wasn't before!
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Heaven
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how a lawyer can be ignorant of the law...
edited to add.... and then admits that he is.
This is astounding. I think I have to agree. Disbarment of this man should be considered.
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ROYAL COMMISSION: ARE JWS TAUGHT TO REFRAIN FROM SWEARING ON THE BIBLE OR NOT? JW.ORG PLEASE EXPLAIN!
by steve2 induring yesterday's rc proceedings (wednesday 5th august 2015), one of the victim's lawyers questioned mr vincent toole, the jw organization's legal counsel for the australian branch office.
she asked him why at least two of the jw elders who gave evidence last week refused to swear on the bible.
mr toole appear puzzled by her question and said he did not know.
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Heaven
3rdgen is probably on to something there. Either that or they know the Bible is bogus: