Thank you for sharing your story Brian. It is good to read another successful exit story. You are living proof that one does not 'enter darkness' when one leaves Botchtower World. And congratulations on your new baby on the way. I guarantee you that Armageddon will not arrive even in your child's lifetime.
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7This is my story
by Funchback ina couple of people here asked, so, i would like to share my story.. i got baptized at the age of 14 (armageddon was coming any day).
to call keith to ask him to stop talking about me.
keith and mrs. keith denied they were talking about me.
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BREAKING NEWS!!!
by DATA-DOG inbreaking news from co!!
according to a reliable source, the co in my area says that jws may have been hearing the phrase, "final push" being used.
what sage advice did this shepherd, duke, and "star" of revelation have to say?
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sowhatnow said: to place people in this constant state of anxiety, is what places them on anti depressants,lol
swn, this is an excellent way of stating what Botchtower does to people. I may have to steals this.
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I joined this site 13 years ago...
by Funchback inhello, everyone.. as noted in the topic, i joined here 13 years ago.
i last posted here over 5 years ago.
i just now learned that this site still exists!
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Hi Brian... thanks for posting.
In looking back, is there any advice you can share with the newcomers to this site?
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40 Years Old Today
by azor ini celebrated my birthday for the first time today at 40 years old.
my wife was great.
she and some of my coworkers surprised me at lunch.
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Azor, so glad you celebrated! Congratulations on achieving big #40.
I bet no one had their head chopped off either, right?! ;0) I hope you had some cake or other yummy treat.
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Index of acronyms : help for new forumers
by Mary J Blige inam finding a whole lot of acronyms that are really foreign to me and i now have an appreciation for what cult language sounds like to non-culters.
wondering please if you can post your definitions so i can get up to speed.
otherwise, as an indoctrinated ex-culter, i am inclined to create my own new light and swiftly it will be gospel.
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Welcome MJB!
Good lists guys!
I use 'Botchtower' for Watchtower. Here are a few more:
TOMO 3, Tony the Turd: reference to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III
Gibbering Buddies, Gubberning Body: reference to Watchtower's Governing Body
Field Circus = Field Service
Ragazine = general term for Watchtower or Awake! magazine
Crapvention = Convention
Piosneer = Pioneer
R&F or Rank and File = Publisher - lowest JW level next to women and children
Kingdumb Misery = Kingdom Ministry
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BREAKING NEWS!!!
by DATA-DOG inbreaking news from co!!
according to a reliable source, the co in my area says that jws may have been hearing the phrase, "final push" being used.
what sage advice did this shepherd, duke, and "star" of revelation have to say?
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My Father is inactive. He has dementia and is in a wheelchair now. He is really not capable of putting any sort of meaningful sentence together anymore.
Does this place him in the JW coward category?
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Anthony Morris III: "...we cannot control everything that an individual might say..."
by cappytan ini noticed that anthony morris iii just said on the broadcast: "while we cannot control everything that an individual might say, it is clear that over the decades protecting children from abuse is a top priority for this organization.".
that, in my opinion, is a direct response to the richard ashe "spiritual protection not physical protection" deposition.. here's a video putting the two statements side by side.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgevpuyn7gy.
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Well TOMO 3, words are just words. Saying it is a top priority and actually MAKING it a top priority are 2 very different things. Your organization's methods for protecting kids are 100% useless.
Zalkin is comin' for ya.
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Evidence of God.
by Jaewook kim insugar water will show blue light over the sun.. salt water will show red light over the sun.. our body components, salt sugar water.. blue blood vein and red blood... definition of our body in his form.. this is the evidence, of our god..
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lol @ smiddy. You know, now that you've changed your avatar, I constantly think of this:
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JW's came to my door 6 weeks ago. I told them I was inactive.......
by Alchemist in6 weeks ago some jws came to my door.
i've been inactive for 8 years.
after they gave their presentation i told them i was inactive.
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Alchemist said: I am baptized and I left 8 years ago because I disagreed with the the idea that the GB is God's sole channel of communication.
Unless you have changed your mind about this, the GB as sole channel of communication with God is still an ideal held by this religion. So you would still have this issue even if you went back.
May I ask you ... have you created your life plan? What do you want to do with your life? What do you enjoy doing? What things give you joy?
Connecting with like minded people may help you through this tough time. Perhaps join a group or club that does something you enjoy or something that interests you. Help out at a local food bank or shelter or sign up to help out on a Habitat for Humanity project. Consider taking a course to learn something new. Seeing a counselor may also be something to look into.
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A Letter to the Bethelites-FOR THE CHILDREN
by Dogpatch indear randy:.
i don't know if this is publishable on your website or just an opportunity to air my concerns on this sunny september afternoon, here in oregon.
either way, i'll endeavor to get to the point.. just a quick background for your readers: my wife jill and i left the jw's in 1998 with our 2 teenage children after 17 years of involvement.
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I feel badly for Glen and his family but am glad they escaped. Religion = child abuse. The Bible is not a book for children.
One startling experience after we left was the relief my son felt when I told him that we would have gone against WT policy and permit a blood transfusion if needed. That's a cruel notion to hold over a child - I had never thought how he truly felt at the time we made him carry his blood card.
As a teenager, I did not agree with the WTS 'no blood' policy. I, too, lived in fear that I may need one and be refused it by my parents. It seemed to me that my concerns were never considered. My parents never asked me how I felt about this. I think this is typical in JW families. I did voice my disbelief to my parents about this policy. I told them that if a blood transfusion was the only way to save a life then that is what should be done. So they knew how I felt about it. This policy also contradicted their claim that all people have the chance to be JWs. Not so for anyone requiring blood products to survive. Logic isn't one of this group's strong points.
Everyone seems to have their different trigger points. While Glen doesn't think he would have put this together, as a teenager I did. I could not fathom why God would kill people such as nurses, doctors, teachers, firemen, farmers, etc... all the people in the world that do things to help and feed others just because they were not a JW. I had done the math on their claim to be preaching to all the inhabitted Earth and I knew that was a farce. I also knew non-JWs who were awesome folks. Again, logic does not work well with the dogma of most religions and WTS is no exception.Sadly, I don't think I would have put 2 and 2 together and see that the God of the JWs had something Evil planned for 99.9% of the whole world's population. I don't think I could have seen then that a God that would kill people the way the terrorists did on a global scale could be Evil. I don't think that I could have seen that the worship of such a God was Evil, that living in a world perpetrated by such a God would be Evil - that Armageddon (per JW lore) would be Evil.
Coded Logic said: I remember the Elders in my hall saying this was just the beginning. And shortly after 9/11 the "Great Beast" would start by getting rid of religious freedom in the US and elsewhere . . . but apparently the UN didn't get the memo. Oh well.
I'm sure no one remembers now.
No JW has ever been able to answer my question "What is the definition of soon/shortly/imminently etc?" I asked my Dad that question once. The reaction was the deer-in-the-headlights look and the silence.
