Posts by Heaven

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Cart Witnessing - Thrilling! Productive! Epic! Er.....um, well, not so much.....

by sir82 in

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talked with a pioneer recently, she was recounting her first experience with cart witnessing.. she brought the subject up, was going on & on & on & on about how wonderful the experience was, and how great, and how she enjoyed it so much, and it was so wonderful, and oh jehovah's blessing, and on and on and on...... a few questions to her revealed what really happened:.

-- a jw who owns a small restaurant in a strip mall allows jws to set up their cart outside his restaurant.

-- the restaurant is tucked pretty far out of the way, not prominent at all.

Heaven

sir82, that's hilarious!

Their mediocrity is underwhelming.

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Does Bruce Jenner (Caitlyn) qualify for Baptism?

by John Aquila in

im not sure if bruce had a sex operation but lets say someone did have a sex operation and then studied with the witnesses and wanted to get baptized, would he qualify in todays jw world?

could he have privileges?

the bible says the past cant be held against you, once you accept the truth.

Heaven

Morpheus said: They commented on this quiet some time ago..... You cannot misrepresent what you were born as, it would be considered an ongoing lie

It is interesting that Botchtower, who believe so much in the spirit world, decide that what is physically presented in the form of the human body is the actual truth.

Transgender people are born in the wrong body. So really, the lie would be for Bruce to remain Bruce and NOT become Caitlyn.

Botchtower is a$$-friggin' backwards.

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Are they banning college again?

by thedepressedsoul in

i wasn't alive for this but my parents and many old timers told me that at one point it was pretty much a rule that you couldn't go to college.

some of you may remember that from that time.

over time they relaxed that rule to that you did what you had to do in order to provide for yourself.

Heaven

I think bashing higher education is a constant with this religion/cult especially when/if they perceive it to be affecting their membership numbers.

When I was a teenager, higher education was frowned upon. My younger bro and I were planning on heading to College in the early 1980s, despite Mom's attempts at persuading us that we didn't need it because the Big 'A' was so close. That was over 5 years AFTER Armageddon's failure to arrive in 1975.

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Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.

by LAWHFol in

if crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.

i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?

if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.

Heaven

One of Religion's main fatal flaws is claiming their error riddled holy book is the inerrant, true word of God.

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Education makes you leave God

by FusionTheism in

quote from the watchtower, simplified edition, september 2015, "how can we show that we love jehovah?".

higher education often makes them lose their love for god..

Heaven

Religion maneuvers it's members through the Bible. How many Christians have actually read their Bible from cover to cover? Getting educated on what is actually in the Bible can also awaken a sleeping mind. Once you become familiar with scripture that is not so nice, you begin to form doubts.

One of my friends is Catholic and one agnostic bordering on atheism. I showed them...

Ezekiel 20:23: There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. - NIV

They were shocked that this was in the Bible. My Catholic friend said "I never knew that was in the Bible."

I told them I have a few more scriptures if they were interested. My Catholic friend was not. Uh huh.

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Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.

by LAWHFol in

if crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.

i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?

if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.

Heaven

Christopher Hitchens is an excellent source of information on the subject of Religion and belief in god. He has many awesome quotes. Here are a few:

"What is more likely to be the truth? That the laws of nature are suspended or an unmarried, Jewish girl told a fib."

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Education makes you leave God

by FusionTheism in

quote from the watchtower, simplified edition, september 2015, "how can we show that we love jehovah?".

higher education often makes them lose their love for god..

Heaven

Higher education is the reason my parents used to give their JW cronies when these people would ask my parents if I was baptized.

The funny thing is.... my parents never asked me why I would not get baptized. Hmmmm....

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Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.

by LAWHFol in

if crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.

i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?

if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.

Heaven

To answer the question in the Title:

The best argument for Atheism is the lack of evidence to support the existence of god.

To answer what is the CoC for Theism, that would be Theodicy.

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Why would anyone want to join jovie world?

by Doltologist in

i can understand why someone who was born of jovie parents would want to leave jovie world.

i can see why someone who had joined jovie world would want to leave.

after all, why would you want to stay in such an evil institution?.

Heaven

Simple. They want what they're 'selling' and/or they've been guilted or frightened into joining.

Many people are not educated, particularly about the group. Many people do not go and get educated about them and what they are claiming when they are approached either.

Really, the old saying is true... "There's a sucker born every minute."

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Well another one leaves the Borg.

by John Aquila in

i took a quick trip to the store and i happened to see a young man (about 26-28 years old) who got baptized about the same time i was leaving- about 2 years ago.

a couple of pioneer sisters found him in the door to door work.

one of them, a very attractive girl.

Heaven

Awesome story JA, thanks for sharing it.

If someone has a logical, reasoning mind it gets more and more difficult to accept what they try to shove down your throat day in and day out. And it's not just one little thing. It's EVERYTHING! The heap of crap just gets bigger and bigger.

Glad this young man had the strength to admit "This is not for me.", leave, and get on with his life.