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  How big of a problem is apostasy.

  by joe134cd in

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  i often wonder if apostasy could be defined as the "silent problem", as the majority who leave for this reason choose to fade saying nothing.

  in all the decades i was a witness i could probably count on 2 hands those who were disfellowshipped for apostasy.i must admit it wasn't until i came on the internet that i fully realise the depth and extent of the problem.

  i think of that young girl high school speech that went viral, and you can't tell me all those 300000+ views were all none jws.

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  I know this has nothing to do with 'apostasy' but with the aging Baby Boomer population, getting older, sicker, and subsequently dying is also another reason people leave and never go back. ;0)
  
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  Article: Why More Young Women Are Leaving Church [65% of JW members are women]

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://national.deseretnews.com/article/4645/why-more-young-women-are-leaving-church.html.

  stock photo a kulicki .

  faith compiled by massarah mikati sunday, may 31, 2015 why more young women are leaving church.

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  Heaven

  For me as a teenager of the '70s, I wasn't agreeing with my parent's religion but also began doubting the claims about God. The misogyny I saw both in the religion and the Bible started putting me off too. The lack of God fixing problems in the world when he is claimed to be all-powerful and all-loving were contradictory and did not sit well with me..
  

  My mind is very logical. Religion requires you leave logic and reason behind. This is not me. I am just not wired to be religious.
  
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  Video: How can we be sure the Bible is true?

  by cappytan in

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  one of the latest jw borgcasting videos i referenced in another thread.

  uploaded to youtube so that you don't have to go to borgville to watch.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz34cfrarag.

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  Heaven

  Ok, just watched it.
  

  They are using one scripture to assert that the entire Bible is Scientifically true. Wow!

  How about the other scriptures that prove the Bible to be Scientifically false?

  Genesis 1:

  a) Creates light and dark prior to the creation of the Sun, Moon, and Stars.

  b) Creates Earth prior to the Sun.

  c) Documents plants growing on the Earth before the Sun's creation.
  

  Genesis 2:18-19: Creates man before the animals. This is wrong as the fossil record clearly shows.
  
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  Video: How can we be sure the Bible is true?

  by cappytan in

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  one of the latest jw borgcasting videos i referenced in another thread.

  uploaded to youtube so that you don't have to go to borgville to watch.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz34cfrarag.

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  How can we be sure the Bible is true?

  WTF?! Ok, I'll play.
  

  Step 1. Do NOT read the Bible.

  Step 2. Drop out of school.

  Step 3. Do not become educated in anything Scientific.

  Step 4. Do NOT develop critical thinking skills.

  Step 5. Join a Christian religion and only listen to what the leaders of said religion tell you.

  Edited to add: I have not yet watched the video. I usually have to work up to these things. Just my 2 cents worth on how to accomplish accepting the Bible as the inerrant word of God.
  

  
  
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  What kingdom do the sheep inherit?

  by scotoma in

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  once again jehovah has decided to light a candle so jw's can see where they are going.. they went to great lengths to explain that feeding the hungry anointed, thirsty anointed, giving them clothing, housing and visiting them in jail means the preaching work (distributing literature).. this is indeed noble when you consider that the right-hand sheep do this not even knowing who they are helping.. if the sheep are oblivious of who they are helping they must not recognize these "least" ones as christs brothers.. and what is their reward for unknowingly, blindly helping christs brothers?

  they inherit the kingdom that was prepared for them from the founding of the world.

  the new-lighters conspicuously avoid explaining what kingdom they inherit and how they inherit it.. do they inherit the kingdom that flesh and blood can't inherit.

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  Sheep inherit the kingdom of the dinner plate.

  
  
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  Return to Jehovah Photo

  by naazira in

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  this picture is in the new publication from this year's convention, titled "return to jehovah".

  part 1the lost one i will search for.

  personally, the animal looks scared of the shepherd.

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  Shepherds are not there for the benefit of the sheep.

  Shepherds are there to ensure the sheep arrive safely at the slaughtering table.
  
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  What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

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  your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!

  i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.

  revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.

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  I was never baptized so therefore never DF'ed. From what I read on here, I am so glad I never got baptized. The whole DF'ing process and subsequent shunning is tortuously abusive.

  The reason my parents would give their JW cronies for me not becoming a JW was that I went to College.

  I'm 100% cool with that. Of course, I had decided well before going to College that this group wasn't for me and that I had doubts about the claims being made about God. But I never voiced any of this to my parents. You learn quickly, as a child, what you can and cannot talk about with your JW parents.
  
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  WT started using the internet in 1997, brother said

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  so brohter (not elder or anything but many years active) had to give talk this week.

  talk related to how jehovah gives abilities to people thru the spirit.

  started off with the mention of how god told moises to build the tent and gave people the abilities to work wood, stone, etc.

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  Heaven

  In 2010, I had to install an internet connection in my Dad's home due to his dementia and recent cataract surgery, which he needed my help with every day but I had to work.

  He was freaked out! He was soooo worried about the demunz.
  

  He made it crystal clear he was not happy with it being installed.

  And guess what? Absolutely NOTHING bad happened. Nothing at all.

  Satan did not show up. Lightning bolts did not destroy the house. And neither one of us needed any specialized demunz protecting underwear.
  
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  God is a killer, NOT a murderer

  by Slave4_38y in

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  this is not from wts, but it could well have been.

  it explains with numerous scriptures quoted why it is impossible for god to break one of his commandments (thou shall not kill).

  it is a erroneous translation which should have been: do not put anyone to death without cause.

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  God is a killer, NOT a murderer

  by Slave4_38y in

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  this is not from wts, but it could well have been.

  it explains with numerous scriptures quoted why it is impossible for god to break one of his commandments (thou shall not kill).

  it is a erroneous translation which should have been: do not put anyone to death without cause.

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  slave said: It is a erroneous translation which should have been: “Do not put anyone to death without cause.” In other words, if the murder was justified as in God's case, he merely killed. And he's allowed to kill humans, because humans are sinners. It's their birthright for crying out loud! :-(

  And he kills in such inventive ways. That Ebola and HIV are such wonderous innovations from Sky Daddy doncha think?