God is a killer, NOT a murderer

by Slave4_38y 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Slave4_38y
    Slave4_38y

    This is not from WTS, but it could well have been. It explains with numerous scriptures quoted why it is impossible for God to break one of his commandments (Thou shall not kill). It is a erroneous translation which should have been: “Do not put anyone to death without cause.” In other words, if the murder was justified as in God's case, he merely killed. And he's allowed to kill humans, because humans are sinners. It's their birthright for crying out loud! :-(

    Apologies to my fellow ex-jw members but the bible made me an atheist . . .

    www.gotquestions.org/God-killing.html


  • cofty
    cofty
    he's allowed to kill humans, because humans are sinners. It's their birthright for crying out loud!

    This is why christianity is a dehumanising death cult.

    Teaching a child that they are a worthless sinner is child abuse.

  • steve2
    steve2
    The Bible needs apologists the way Hitler needed impression managers: Desperately.
  • Heaven
    Heaven

    slave said: It is a erroneous translation which should have been: “Do not put anyone to death without cause.” In other words, if the murder was justified as in God's case, he merely killed. And he's allowed to kill humans, because humans are sinners. It's their birthright for crying out loud! :-(

    And he kills in such inventive ways. That Ebola and HIV are such wonderous innovations from Sky Daddy doncha think?

  • steve2
    steve2
    Of course apologists for Divine killing know well the discomforting universal principle, "Might is right".
  • Fisherman
    Fisherman

    Teaching a child that they are a worthless sinner is child abuse.

    "So have no fear; you are worth more than many sparrows"

    "And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes"

    "He will swallow up death forever, And the Sovereign Lord will wipe away the tears from all faces"


  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    God is fiction , so he can be whatever he wants to be from a human perspective.

  • Jonathan Drake
    Jonathan Drake

    The verses that exist for apologists to use in defense of God are all contingent upon an individual living up to certain expectations all while God does less than nothing.

    He does less than nothing because not only does he not prevent horrible disasters and atrocities but he also tests people with trials. This latter bit is interesting since the book says God doesn't try anyone with evil despite the fact that many today seem convinced he does (James 1:13; compare 1 Samuel 16:14).

    Further bible apologists like to ignore the inexcusable actions of God, such as all the innocent children he killed:

    Infanticide:

    1 Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless "suckling" infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.

    Psalms 135:8 & 136:10 Here god is praised for slaughtering little babies.

    Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be “dashed upon the rocks”.

    The murdering of children:

    Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.”

    Psalms 137:8-9 Prayer/song of vengeance “0 daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

    2 Kings 6:28-29 “And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.”

    Deuteronomy 21:18-21 “If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”

    Judges 19:24-29 “Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go. Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man’s house where her lord was, till it was light. And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold. And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place. And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.” To put it very bluntly this poor, young lady was murdered by her mate for being raped.

    Exodus 12:29 God killed, intentionally, every first-born child of every family in Egypt, simply because he was upset at the Pharaoh. And god caused the Pharaoh’s actions in the first place. Since when is it appropriate to murder children for their ruler’s forced action?

    Exodus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents Joshua 8 God commanded the deaths of 12,000 men, women, and children of Ai. They were all slain in the ambush that was planned by god.

    2 Kings 2:23-24 The prophet Elisha, was being picked on by some young boys from the city because of his bald head. The prophet turned around and cursed them in the Lords name. Then, two female bears came out of the woods and killed forty-two of them. You would think that God could understand that sometimes the youthful make childish jokes. Calling someone “bald head” is far from being worthy of death.

    Leviticus 26:30 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.”

    1 Samuel 15:11-18 God repents of having made Saul king since Saul refused to carry out God’s commandments (i.e., Saul refused to murder all the innocent women and children.) At least god realizes what an immoral, murderous pig he is on this one.

    I Kings 16:34 Laying the foundation for a city using your firstborn child and using your youngest son to set up the gates.

    Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will “thrust you through,” smash your children “to pieces” before your eyes, and rape your wife.

    Jeremiah 11:22-23 God will kill the young men in war and starve their children to death.

    Jeremiah 19:7-9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.

    Lamentations 2:20-22 God gets angry and mercilessly torments and kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children.


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    I'd like to read an apologists take on these atrocities, and then punch them in the face.

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