Posts by Heaven

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Video: How can we be sure the Bible is true?

by cappytan in

one of the latest jw borgcasting videos i referenced in another thread.

uploaded to youtube so that you don't have to go to borgville to watch.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz34cfrarag.

Heaven

How can we be sure the Bible is true?

WTF?! Ok, I'll play.

Step 1. Do NOT read the Bible.

Step 2. Drop out of school.

Step 3. Do not become educated in anything Scientific.

Step 4. Do NOT develop critical thinking skills.

Step 5. Join a Christian religion and only listen to what the leaders of said religion tell you.

Edited to add: I have not yet watched the video. I usually have to work up to these things. Just my 2 cents worth on how to accomplish accepting the Bible as the inerrant word of God.

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What kingdom do the sheep inherit?

by scotoma in

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once again jehovah has decided to light a candle so jw's can see where they are going.. they went to great lengths to explain that feeding the hungry anointed, thirsty anointed, giving them clothing, housing and visiting them in jail means the preaching work (distributing literature).. this is indeed noble when you consider that the right-hand sheep do this not even knowing who they are helping.. if the sheep are oblivious of who they are helping they must not recognize these "least" ones as christs brothers.. and what is their reward for unknowingly, blindly helping christs brothers?

they inherit the kingdom that was prepared for them from the founding of the world.

the new-lighters conspicuously avoid explaining what kingdom they inherit and how they inherit it.. do they inherit the kingdom that flesh and blood can't inherit.

Heaven

Sheep inherit the kingdom of the dinner plate.

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Return to Jehovah Photo

by naazira in

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this picture is in the new publication from this year's convention, titled "return to jehovah".

part 1the lost one i will search for.

personally, the animal looks scared of the shepherd.

Heaven

Shepherds are not there for the benefit of the sheep.

Shepherds are there to ensure the sheep arrive safely at the slaughtering table.

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What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"

by PhilsWager2 in

your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!

i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.

revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.

Heaven

I was never baptized so therefore never DF'ed. From what I read on here, I am so glad I never got baptized. The whole DF'ing process and subsequent shunning is tortuously abusive.

The reason my parents would give their JW cronies for me not becoming a JW was that I went to College.

I'm 100% cool with that. Of course, I had decided well before going to College that this group wasn't for me and that I had doubts about the claims being made about God. But I never voiced any of this to my parents. You learn quickly, as a child, what you can and cannot talk about with your JW parents.

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WT started using the internet in 1997, brother said

by StarTrekAngel in

so brohter (not elder or anything but many years active) had to give talk this week.

talk related to how jehovah gives abilities to people thru the spirit.

started off with the mention of how god told moises to build the tent and gave people the abilities to work wood, stone, etc.

Heaven

In 2010, I had to install an internet connection in my Dad's home due to his dementia and recent cataract surgery, which he needed my help with every day but I had to work.

He was freaked out! He was soooo worried about the demunz.

He made it crystal clear he was not happy with it being installed.

And guess what? Absolutely NOTHING bad happened. Nothing at all.

Satan did not show up. Lightning bolts did not destroy the house. And neither one of us needed any specialized demunz protecting underwear.

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God is a killer, NOT a murderer

by Slave4_38y in

this is not from wts, but it could well have been.

it explains with numerous scriptures quoted why it is impossible for god to break one of his commandments (thou shall not kill).

it is a erroneous translation which should have been: do not put anyone to death without cause.

Heaven

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God is a killer, NOT a murderer

by Slave4_38y in

this is not from wts, but it could well have been.

it explains with numerous scriptures quoted why it is impossible for god to break one of his commandments (thou shall not kill).

it is a erroneous translation which should have been: do not put anyone to death without cause.

Heaven

slave said: It is a erroneous translation which should have been: “Do not put anyone to death without cause.” In other words, if the murder was justified as in God's case, he merely killed. And he's allowed to kill humans, because humans are sinners. It's their birthright for crying out loud! :-(

And he kills in such inventive ways. That Ebola and HIV are such wonderous innovations from Sky Daddy doncha think?

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Looking for ideas.

by Driving Force in

i received an email from one of the elder in the local congregation.

i am not dfed so there is not a problem there, i am just an aggressive fader.. one of the last things i said to this elder before i stopped all activities was that i do not agree with the borg taking all the assets from the congregations.. here is what the elder said in the email:.

"i recently saw something while looking through the jw broadcasting for the month of may and i though about you.

Heaven

I'd be interested in knowing how much Bro. Lett's suit and tie cost in the May video. They were very nice.

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At the RC now part 2

by All for show in

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ok... my other thread i cant respond.

we went to shut up our family... but myhusband is seething and said his brain has shut off.. the stupid is amazing.. they are playing videos that are lame and pointless for the first symposium.. for the first symposium... they asked why the bible has no pictures.

because it was before photography...jesus used word pictures!!

Heaven

People know Jesus but not the sacred secret. You have to qualify to know sacred secrets.

This is 100% cult speak right here.

BTW, all that crap you listed in the OP I've heard time and time again. How many times must one hear it to 'know' it? Sheesh!

There are no pictures because photography and drawing are evil... then, nu-lite came out in the 1800s and these were all ok now. Errr, uuuuhhh.... yeah.

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One month researching my doubts: my crucial issues with WTBTS - what are yours?

by Tornintwo in

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so after 20 years a convert, about a month ago i decided to start listening to my doubts and to do independent research about the wtbts teachings (naughty me).

as a result i have consolidated my position on various points and these are my major issues with the wtbts teachings, i am posting these to help myself figure things out (with your assistance) and hopefully to hear from others at their stage of drawing away from the gb - newbies' especially.

in the form of notes so hope you dont mind...child abuse.

Heaven

Misogyny: the Organization's disdain for women

God's Chosen/Exclusive Truth: this goes along with your 'all others will die' but is broader because JWs have elevated themselves above all else claiming they have exclusive knowledge of 'Da Troof' and are God's Chosen. This creates holier-than-though, self-righteous, a-holes.

Flip-Flops: similar to 'the lite gets brighter' except that it's complete reversals of previous lite, then coming back to former lite that was changed but now adopted once again. Makes one nauseous and dizzy.

Torn said: (how do you do that 'copy someone's comment in a little yellow box' thing that you all do?)

Hey Torn, see that " (quote) icon/button next to the B icon/button at the top of the text window? Select/highlight whatever text you want to quote with the mouse, then hit that " button.