No one is being asked to compromise their convictions, Caliber.
Unless your conviction is to exclusively bash one side over the other. Then yes, I'm asking you to compromise. "Compromise" in the sense of: Let's at least be realistic here.
ricky gervais tweeted this 11/14/12 and i totally agree with it:.
"there are good atheists and bad atheists.
there are good believers and bad believers.. no god has ever changed that.".
No one is being asked to compromise their convictions, Caliber.
Unless your conviction is to exclusively bash one side over the other. Then yes, I'm asking you to compromise. "Compromise" in the sense of: Let's at least be realistic here.
ricky gervais tweeted this 11/14/12 and i totally agree with it:.
"there are good atheists and bad atheists.
there are good believers and bad believers.. no god has ever changed that.".
Chariklo,
And I also have explained twice now that "truce" wasn't the right wordfor the OP. We're trying to find a better way to debate/discuss.
I asked you this the last time you posted here, and it was ignored, but I'll try again:
You have plenty of criticism for the atheists, that much is quite clear. Is there anything that you can see the non-atheist crowd can improve on?
If you don't see any way at all, and feel they are 100% in the right, well.....then that kind of illustrates the problem, does it not?
There are good atheists and there are bad atheists.
There are good believers and bad believers.
So far, your only focus has been on "bad atheists/good believers", which is really a good chunk of the problem, and I think is what is giving rise to you being called an atheist-basher.
ricky gervais tweeted this 11/14/12 and i totally agree with it:.
"there are good atheists and bad atheists.
there are good believers and bad believers.. no god has ever changed that.".
Chariklo,
Do you have anything constructive to add to the OP?
If it's not your type of topic, and you feel it's a useless thread (as you keep posting to point out), the solution to your problem seems obvious to me.
ricky gervais tweeted this 11/14/12 and i totally agree with it:.
"there are good atheists and bad atheists.
there are good believers and bad believers.. no god has ever changed that.".
**GETS THE GOAT READY, JUST IN CASE**
ricky gervais tweeted this 11/14/12 and i totally agree with it:.
"there are good atheists and bad atheists.
there are good believers and bad believers.. no god has ever changed that.".
It looks like I'm going to have to do it:
ricky gervais tweeted this 11/14/12 and i totally agree with it:.
"there are good atheists and bad atheists.
there are good believers and bad believers.. no god has ever changed that.".
Don't make me bring out the Panda, Aguest.
this is a spin from palm's thread on a truce.
but i think, instead of getting people to sugget ways that a truce could work... how about we list answers to this:.
atheists: what do you want from theists?.
That video always makes me cry......
this is a spin from palm's thread on a truce.
but i think, instead of getting people to sugget ways that a truce could work... how about we list answers to this:.
atheists: what do you want from theists?.
ricky gervais tweeted this 11/14/12 and i totally agree with it:.
"there are good atheists and bad atheists.
there are good believers and bad believers.. no god has ever changed that.".
Tec:
I have to be honest and state that while some good points were brought out in this thread, I am not left with a good feeling at the end (if this is the end of the thread)
It really does help to focus on the ideas and not the person.
And ignore the ones who are just posting to cause problems.
ricky gervais tweeted this 11/14/12 and i totally agree with it:.
"there are good atheists and bad atheists.
there are good believers and bad believers.. no god has ever changed that.".
Focus on the idea, not the person.
Yes, sometimes, it's too easy to see who is making a comment and getting offended before we even read it, or read it LOOKING for something to take issue with.
Focusing on the IDEA that someone is trying to get across, might eliminate some of these looooong posts where every word and phrase is disected until the poor person's post is rendered meaningless and more time is spent defining and re-defining words than on what the person actually said.