Posts by iknowall558

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Elder Says My Daughter's Promotion & Job Success From Devil!

by minimus in

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an elder and his wife paid my mom a friendly shepherding call and they asked how my ex was doing.

she said, "fine, as far as she knows".

then they asked about my daughter and my mother praised her for her hard work and the fact that she won a special award within her company in which she gave a speech for, and then the former bethel elder said, "well, that's how satan the devil gets people, through praise and making people feel that their work is more important than anything else".

iknowall558

I know! It really pulls you down doesn't it. My mum got a "friendly" shepherding call from an elder and his wife about 8months ago and he ended up telling her that she shouldn't have anything to do with myself or my husband because of our views and questions about the org. at the time. We hadn't even left then! He then proceeded to relate how my husband was upsetting my children and making them cry at school by telling the teacher that we were no longer going to the Kingdom Hall. All of which wasn't true. He was making out my husband was a bad father, but he got half a story from someone else who didn't know all the information regarding my children at school and just proceeded to pass it on to my mum. Gossip....I think you call it. My mum was quite disgusted as there were other things that were said as well. She then said , "well I can't do that, because I still want to see my two grandsons". He then went on to point to two other sisters in the hall as an example, who were currently not seeing their children either and said to my mum that, although they didn't find it easy, they were still doing it in obedience with what the Bible said. He was basically saying she should be doing the same as them. This shepherding call upset my mum very much and led her to put a letter of disassociation in just a few weeks later.

I really dont think they can see the damage they do by just opening their mouths and saying what they want , regardless of how it makes a person feel. I mean, this is their nearest and dearest that they're dissing. Do they really think that you wont take offense, but just sit there and wholeheartedly agree with what they're saying?

They automatically assume that if you're not one of them any more then you turn into some sort of worldly , evil, monster. Yes ! Satan really is working overtime, but on whom ?.........whose words and actions seem to be the most discouraging ? Hope your mum will not be too upset by what they said.

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Calling the Borg "Mother"

by Iwonder17 in

hey all,.

i have noticed many of the elders in my hall are now calling the wtbs "mother" from the stage during their talks now.

it happens at least once per meeting.

iknowall558

I've heard it being used quite often, even at assemblies. So , they have a Father and Mother ? But where does that place Jesus ? Its the ususal subtle brainwashing

being used . . . . . Father , Mother / Parents ! - - this infers that the org. is on a par with God himself. . . . . and Jesus? Well, he's put where he's always put, . . . Out of the way!

Like most children.....seen but not heard....... Only the org. is recognised source of authority..... and in this relationship it seems that Mother is wearing the trousers.

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Only 55 out of 100 people can read this...do you have a great mind?

by digderidoo in

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fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too .

cna yuo raed tihs?

olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

iknowall558

Utdonseord it pelfrctey ! Jsut wrodineg hwo lnog it toko yuo to tpye it.

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So I visited birthday party of my dad and brother ... after 18 years!!!

by Albert Einstein in

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this week my dad and my brother celebrated in my brothers house their birthday (they were born almost on the same date...).

none of my family is a jw.. i shortly called my brother on that morning and asked if i can come over.

he said ok, so i came to his house, told them iam learning to celebrate birthdays again and gave them a bottle of good wine for my brother and a big bottle of good honey for my dad (he is sick).

iknowall558

That's great! I'm going to my first birthday party in 24years tonight. Can't wait. Good thing is, it's an ex JW who is having the party and she has invited plenty of ex JW friends. It's gonna be like a renunion.

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YOU SHOULD CHECK THIS OUT!!!!!!

by Hobo Ken in

continuing with the visit from the elders there are some quite amazing things said.. i present the evidence to the elders of the wts use of johannes greber in their publlications.

listen to how they react...... also listen to how one of the elders compares faults in the wts teachings to the bible itself being flawed.. please go to my website or listen via the link below.

http://media.libsyn.com/media/tartanpodcast/doro_6.mp3.

iknowall558

Got to say Ive already heard this twice and I'm still shouting at the computer when I hear it.!

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6/15 WT- GB More Powerful than Worldwide Anointed- Don't Judge Partaking

by flipper in

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more of the latest from the june 15th " witness only " watchtower.

under the article " the faithful steward and it's governing body " there were some very telling quotes which could indicate how the wt society is tightening the control of it's members - and trying to justify more partaking of the emblems at the memorial since the numbers partaking have gone up from about 8,000 to 10,000 since they no longer feel that the sealing of the anointed ended in 1935.. so first off, notice this quote indicating the importance of elevating the governing body over the rest of the anointed around the earth.

paragraph 16 it states , " are all these anointed ones throughout the earth part of a global network that is somehow involved in revealing new spiritual truths ?

iknowall558

As regards the increase in partakers . . .

The Feb 15th WT 1975 pg 105 - 11 "Annointing to a heavenly hope - How is it manifest ?"

This article basically warned against mistakingly presuming to have the heavenly calling. It basically blamed the increase in numbers on the ignorance of the membership. The reasons that some made wrong assumptions was apparently based on the fact that their life on earth sucked due to marraige problems etc, and they felt the need for a change and so put themselves in the queue for heaven.

"Others who made the mistake of partaking of the emblems had reportedly experienced 'spiritual enlightenment' through drug abuse or simple fantasizing. ALL OF THESE PARTAKERS WERE DULY REPRIMANDED, AND SOME WERE DISFELLOWSHIPPED."

But now, they can no longer reprimand these "mistaken ones" because they've opened the door again. They have backed themselves into a corner and need to present a different view.....a 180 degree turn in fact.

June 15th WT par 15: - -

" On the other hand, how should other Christians view a person who claims to have received this anointing and begins to partake of the emblems at the Memorial ? HE OR SHE SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED. The matter is between this person and Jehovah. "

They cannot control who partakes and they cannot stop the numbers increasing as they've basically given the green light by changing the teaching again. But they obviously have thoughts similar to 1975, that some partaking are not "suitably" annointed , but are partaking due to desiring attention and prominence and a position of authority. This is why they are saying that they are not due any special honour or recognition, to make sure that no individual partaker is revered by any of the members.

They have seen the need to separate themselves and keep the purity and eliteness of the 'slave' in tact and not allow it to be tainted by by all these worker bees trying to become queen bees.

The focus needs to be solely on the men in Brooklyn. By this article, this will be achieved. There are supposed to be 2 distinct and clear classes. The FDS (not of the GB) are not distinct any longer. They have been merged and blended into the Great Crowd of Other Sheep. Only the GB comes out of this identifiable,- literally; - we know all their names, ages and what they look like. But is it right for them to claim to be a class ? The FDS has dwindled from ' thousands' of individuals to only 9 in number. Barely enough for a Tuesday Group.

Another point.....The Jan 15th, 2000 WT pg 12, "signs of the last days"

One of the 6 convincing lines of evidence used in the article to prove that we are living in the 'last days' , is the fact that the number of the annointed partaking of the emblems would be decreasing. Will they now be admitting that we are not in the last days as the facts are showing the numbers are increasing ?

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untitled

by iknowall558 in

sticks and stones may break my bones , but words will never hurt me.

quote from nicholas humphrey :.

"words?

iknowall558

STICKS AND STONES MAY BREAK MY BONES , BUT WORDS WILL NEVER HURT ME.

Quote from Nicholas Humphrey :

"Words? Children are made of the words they hear. It matters what we tell them."

"Children, I'll argue, have a human right not to have their minds crippled by exposure to other people's bad ideas—no matter who these other people are. Parents, correspondingly, have no god-given licence to enculturate their children in whatever ways they personally choose: no right to limit the horizons of their children's knowledge, to bring them up in an atmosphere of dogma and superstition, or to insist they follow the straight and narrow paths of their own faith."

"In short, children have a right not to have their minds addled by nonsense. And we as a society have a duty to protect them from it. So we should no more allow parents to teach their children to believe, for example, in the literal truth of the Bible, or that the planets rule their lives, than we should allow parents to knock their children's teeth out or lock them in a dungeon."

I think this guy gives food for thought.......Is the WTBTS providing an "intellectual dungeon for the children " among them ? Are their words harmful ?

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Were YOU A "Good" Jehovah's Witness?

by minimus in

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when you look back, were you considered a "good" jw?

?.

iknowall558

For a while......then near the end I was rubbish. Was always late for meeting, but early in leaving ...sometimes half way through. Never answered up at Kingdom Hall, only at Tues book study. Went out in ministry once in a blue moon, and never put my report in. Took my name off the TMS and stopped doing talks and householder roles..

But.......went to all the social occasions, was always invited out by bros and sisters, think they were trying to help me, drank every week and my dress became less conservative.

So I was a rubbish dub, but had a great time being rubbish.

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Flashes of SH**TE !

by iknowall558 in

w t b & t s.. in my opinion this stands for we teach bull & talk shit.

anyone have any "favourites" from amongst the many flashes of light from the org.?

i've chosen this one........rev 14 : 20 this apparently referred to the publishing of the finished mystery book and foretold that the 1600 furlongs represented the distance from where it was written (scranton, pennsylvania), to where it was published (wt headquarters in brooklyn, ny)...provided you travelled by way of the lackawana railroad and hobo ken's ferry.

iknowall558

@ninj. lol You could have a whole brood of rainbow children if you chose to move every few years to the country of your choice ! No input from hubby needed....

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Flashes of SH**TE !

by iknowall558 in

w t b & t s.. in my opinion this stands for we teach bull & talk shit.

anyone have any "favourites" from amongst the many flashes of light from the org.?

i've chosen this one........rev 14 : 20 this apparently referred to the publishing of the finished mystery book and foretold that the 1600 furlongs represented the distance from where it was written (scranton, pennsylvania), to where it was published (wt headquarters in brooklyn, ny)...provided you travelled by way of the lackawana railroad and hobo ken's ferry.

iknowall558

Here is a quote from the Watchtower July 15 1902 page 3043:-

"Europeans have stirred and commingled with
each other far more than the peoples of other parts of the
earth, it helps us to see how gradually, through many centuries,
other peoples have undergone still greater changes.
In considering this matter we are not to forget the strong
pre-natal influence of the mother’s mind upon her olfspring,-
co-operating with the influences of climate and soil. To illustrate:
Suppose a missionary and his wife removed to China;
not onlg would the influence of the climate and soil be manifested
upon themselves, but the same would be still more manifested
in their children. Whoever will give careful attention
to this matter will notice that each succeeding child born in
that foreign country will have increasingly more resemblance
to the Chinese-the hair, the skin, the shape of the eyes, and
in general all features will bear closer resemblance with each
succeeding child. We can readily suppose that if so much
change occurs in a few years, ten or twentv centuries under
similar conditions would- turn any white people into regular
Chinese, even supposing there were no intermarrying. The
mother,. while carrying-her unborn child, has continual!y before
her the Chinese type of countenance-eyes, hair, color
etc., and the continual impress of these upon her mind could
not fail, according to the law of our being, to influence her
offspring in the manner noted."

Here is an example of the blatant racism exibited by the WtS. It's also an example of the complete lack of any scientific knowledge of human biology and reproduction.

They say that white people will eventually have Chinese kids ....because of the soil and climate and the fact that the expectant mother is LOOKING AT Chinese people.....Lol completely ridiculous.

Just imagine , this is the food from the slave provided from Jehovah's table which Jesus was so happy with he appointed them as his own "faithful and wise servant in 1919.........