Posts by JustHuman14

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OBVES is crazy

by d in

obves was wrong and is crazy because we are still here.

who agrees with me?

lol.

JustHuman14

He is just fine...the issue with him is that he smokes too much grass

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How the WTBTS creates atheists

by Nickolas in

i am an atheist.

i arrived at this juncture in my life despite not wanting to.

when i first met the witnesses at 22 i was a seeker looking for answers to the question of life - in other words, prime cult target material.

I don't think so that WT does create atheists. It is a matter of personal choice, or most of all a long time research. I have also left WT, then I studied Christianity, then I decided to go through the Hebrew Scriptures, since Christianity comes from another religion, the Hebrew.

When I have done a serious examination of the Hebrew Scriptures (examine history, science of that era) the result was the Old Testament was nothing more than copy of older myths (Sumerian & Egyptian). Many stories never occurred, like the Hebrew captivity in Egypt and their Exodus. There is not a single evidence that 3 million Jews left Egypt during 1450 B.C and spend 40 years hanging around in the desert!!! Also there are many disturbing facts of the Hebrew God, he orders genocides in many cases, did war crimes, and atrocities. There is humiliating attitude towards women, for instance according to the Mosaic Law if she didn't scream loud enough in a rape attack she is guilty and she must stone to death. Or if she shouts loud then the rapper must give to her father 50 sickles of silver and he can get married of her!!!

There is many other staff like that, for instance Cain went to the land of Nod and got married and he builds a city!!! Or Lot's daughters that have sex with their father in order to bring offspring for him!!! Even in the Mosaic Law there is no mention of sex between father and daughter, thus women are considered mans belonging.

I have my points for Christianity as well, especially when I came through the Gnostic Gospels but I consider Jesus teachings universal, since they are based upon the universal law of love.

I like to question everything in order to come to a final result. I'm not an atheist. I believe there is a Creator behind everything, but I do not believe that He/She is behind any organized religion.

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Is there no hope? (daughter getting baptized)

by camicia in

i'm really distraught about the fact my 23 year old daughter is ready to abandon a potential career in writing where her talent lies, and become a jehovah's witness.

i banned the study being held in our home, but it only hurt my relationship with my daughter, who screamed at me "i pay to live here and i'm not hiding, you're sabotaging my relationship with god!

" so i gave in.

JustHuman14

WT is so good in brain washing. Since she is going to their meetings the process of brainwashing works perfectly, especially the: us vs them mentality. Evil vs bad, God vs devil. You cannot oppose to her, since this it will cause the defense mechanism implant to her by the WT to act against you. I suggest to show her the flip flop doctrines of the WT and the fact that they have a short history as a group(sect)but with many failed prophesies.

Try to show her for instance how did WT viewed organ transplans in 1964(it was OK) the in 1967(became cannibalist act!)and in 1980 again it was ok!. So who is to blammed for all those thousands who died between 1967-1980? God's spirit or a man made organization?

Then you can point out that their founder Russell what he believed as "truth" for at least 60 years, now it is consider "apostate teachings". Even their founder it wouldn't have a place amongst modern day JW's.

I was raised in that evil cult. I left when I was 35 and this caused me to lost my entire family. Your daughter is in danger. What I'm afraid is that after she becomes a JW, the "system" will push her to get married a "faithful brother" and it will turn things even worsed. I know how they are acting since I was raised there. Specially when there is a new single person that joins their club, the next thing they do is to find a "faithful mate" so they will lock him/her at their organization.

If you need more help just ask us, you can send me a PM also if you like. No matter what you must act fast, since your daughter is in danger.

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May 21st, 2011, Judgement Day?

by FrankWTower in

while on the subject of some wacko making yet another prediction, i found this info on time.com.. .

the onset of world war i freaked a lot of people out.

but it was especially trippy for the zion's watch tower tract society, a group that's now called jehovah's witnesses.

JustHuman14

Don't worry guys, December 2012 is not very far!!! We have another "Judgement Day" to look forward...

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Is there no hope? (daughter getting baptized)

by camicia in

i'm really distraught about the fact my 23 year old daughter is ready to abandon a potential career in writing where her talent lies, and become a jehovah's witness.

i banned the study being held in our home, but it only hurt my relationship with my daughter, who screamed at me "i pay to live here and i'm not hiding, you're sabotaging my relationship with god!

" so i gave in.

JustHuman14

That is really sad. There are so many anti WT, websites in the world that show how WT is misleading people. Perhaps you should try one point at a time trying to reason her. I am afraid that brainwashing has done the job, but is never to late.

I'm suggesting to ask help from people that they are aim is to give assistance for people like you.

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So If I am to be raptured on Saturday I guess I should spend the day outside?

by stuckinamovement in

jw
friends

i don't want to get trapped in a building when i am called to the lord.

these are details you gotta think about.. my rapture checklist.

clean underwearbiblesnickers and trailmix (you never know how long the trip up might be)sunscreen (the uv rays at 50,000 are killer)harmonicais there anything else i am missing?.

JustHuman14

or Gates of Babylon by Rainbow, "sleep with the devil and then you must pay"

or Cozy Powel's "Dance with the Devil"

or Rolling Stones "sympathy to devil"

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Life after death

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

everyone has different views about life after death and whether or not it is a possibility.. as jehovah's witnesses, we were always taught that there is no life after death, that this is the only life we have now and that the wages of sin is death.. .

what are your views on life after death?.

.

JustHuman14

good point PSacramento!!!

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The Rapture is Saturday- Craigslist advertisements seeking help!

by moshe in

jw
friends

post-rapture supplies needed (cape cod)date: 2011-05-19, 2:46am edt.

the rapture is this saturday, and i will be one of the many left behind.

when you go to heaven, you can't take your possessions with you.

JustHuman14

thanks Yan Bibiyan for the info...IF ANYTHING SHOCKING comes, PLEASE let us know!!!

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After the pregnant woman is Raptured on May 21st - what happens to her fetus?

by moshe in

apparently, this has pregnant christians twisted in a knot trying to figure out how g-d will handle this paradox.

fetuses in heaven?

- or does g-d just let them die with the discarded human body left behind?.

JustHuman14

it will propably stay for ever in her womb!

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2011 "Let God's Kingdom Come!" District Convention Program

by witnessofjesus in

9:30 song no.

10:50 song no.

12:10 song no.

JustHuman14

there is a Greek song:

All around us are changing, and all remain the same...

I can imagine this talk in the late 1800's with Russel, in 1925 with Booze Jo, in 1942 again with Jo, in 1975 with Freddie, in the 80's with Freddie. I guess nothing change, only times and names, while WT is the same...