Posts by JustHuman14

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The Evilness that is Lady Gaga

by LouBelle in

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friends

today i got three seperate emails stating that lady gaga has sold her soul to the devil and is using her music and videos to further satan's goals.

they then go take the various symbology and wording in her music and videos and explain what they mean/represent.

she is rather wild and out there, and yes i'll admit she does use a lot of symbolism in her music videos.

JustHuman14

Never liked her music...perhaps she is doing that to shock people

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Special Olympics in Athens - The real winners of Life

by JustHuman14 in

the special olympics started this saturnday in athens, with the ceremony.

for me i believe those athelets are the real winners of life.... and for your information, the prime minister of the hellenic nation, he wasn't present at the opening of the games.... .

JustHuman14

They are held in Athens. And something else:

The cost of this Olympics was 80 million Euros...

Our "goverment" is claiming that we have finnacial crisis, but in this "crisis" they had the most expensive Special Olympics ever made!! In their cost they claimed 10 million Euros for "marketing", while we all know that Special Olympics have free advertize from all the media!!!

And final: Our Athletes, they had to cover the cost of their participation to the Olympics on their own!!! This "Goverment" has no social face, they have cut down the pension of people with special needs, and still they organized the most expensive Special Olympics...shame on them...Just take a plane Mr. Prime Minister take all the members of your Socialist Party and LEAVE HELLAS...

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No need to know Hebrew and Greek for Bible Translation, according to the Watchtower's Branch Organization Manual revised 2003

by dgp in

i copied this from page 153 of the branch organization manual, effective: december 15, 1977, revised: february 2003. .

it is not necessary for bible translators to know.

by using this file, such scriptures will be ren-.

JustHuman14

Indeed, there are 30,000 Greek JW's that read NWT a translation that violeted every Hellenic grammar and meaning( in order to fit GB's dogma) and still believe it is the best translation ever made for the Greek Scriptures!!!

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Special Olympics in Athens - The real winners of Life

by JustHuman14 in

the special olympics started this saturnday in athens, with the ceremony.

for me i believe those athelets are the real winners of life.... and for your information, the prime minister of the hellenic nation, he wasn't present at the opening of the games.... .

JustHuman14

The Special Olympics started this Saturnday in Athens, with the ceremony. For me I believe those athelets are the real winners of life...

And for your information, the Prime Minister of the Hellenic Nation, he wasn't present at the Opening of the Games...

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MY SPIRITUAL JOURNEY- From Watchtower Christianity - Agnosticism

by JustHuman14 in

my personal spiritual journey- from watchtower - christianity - agnosticism.

i guess life is a journey and this journey becomes more exited when someone is willing to take that journey.

one of our greek poets wrote: "it is not the destination, but the journey that matters".... my story is very similar like many thousands of ex-jw's around the globe.

JustHuman14

Larsinger58: Thank you for posting and sharing with us your spiritual journey and I have read your points. Although I must say that I don't agree completely still it is good to have the other side of the coin.

trevorbv: I'm glad that my post express you too

designs: I agree with your observation

Witness My Fury: Examination is very importand. If we neglet the facts the faith is blind

sizemik: I know many ex- JW's who share the same thoughts. It is all a matter of examination based upon facts

elder-schneider: thank you for your reply, altough I don't consider myself a good writter

tammy: This is my conclusion as well. I hold on the teachings of Jesus in my life

LongHairGal: Indeed Organized religion corrupts in many ways

clarity: John Lennon ismy favour artist. I consider him as the 20th century guru

wobble: Leaving WT is like immigrating to another country in the early 1900's. You are cut off from communication from all your relatives and friends. I do feel that I got my life back, despite the problems WT caused me. Most of all I'm me and I'm free

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Those sweltering assemblies!

by highdose in

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friends

anyone from the uk remember the assemblies at twickenham?

cytrstal place?

gillingham?.

JustHuman14

If that is hot, then you should see what the hell was happening in Greece in July!!! I remember many old JW's suffered from exaustion due to heat...What a loving God!!

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MY SPIRITUAL JOURNEY- From Watchtower Christianity - Agnosticism

by JustHuman14 in

my personal spiritual journey- from watchtower - christianity - agnosticism.

i guess life is a journey and this journey becomes more exited when someone is willing to take that journey.

one of our greek poets wrote: "it is not the destination, but the journey that matters".... my story is very similar like many thousands of ex-jw's around the globe.

JustHuman14

My Personal Spiritual Journey- From Watchtower - Christianity - Agnosticism

I guess life is a journey and this journey becomes more exited when someone is willing to take that journey. One of our Greek poets wrote: "It is not the destination, but the journey that matters"...

My story is very similar like many thousands of ex-JW's around the globe. I was born in the "truth" in the late 60's, my dad was a Circuit Overseer, and from the day I came into this world all ever known was the Watchtower world. My everyday activities were focused on Organization activities any thing else was considered a sin, or useless, since the end was just around the corner and the most important thing was to save human lives. So I was escorting my dad since childhood to all WT's activities, field service, meetings, visiting other congregations. I grew up with the fear of Armageddon that will destroy this world, and my handful worldly friends I had from school. Since I was the only JW at school you can imagine how destructive was for me, watching your friends celebrating Christmas, birthdays, Easter (Passover) Holidays, plus I was kind of an alien amongst the children, especially when we had our morning prayer. It was the 70's and everyone in the WT was carried way by the frenzy of the end in 1975 and although I was only 7, I still feel the spirit of those days. Well 1975 pass and nothing happened and we have entered the 80's, with another warning by the WT that the "generation" that saw Jesus Christ invisible presence will not pass away and the end will come...So been a teenager in the mid 80's all I ever knew and listen it was that the "end" is close and we the young ones should spend our time in a lifesaving preaching work instead of seeking a carrier in this "Titanic" that soon will sunk. So I left school to become a pioneer to save the world. So the 80's and early 90's passed. Mean while I got married and had 2 kids. So it was 1995 when WT came with a "new light". My first doubts came across, but being a Ministerial Servant and Pioneer I suppress my negative thoughts by doing more in Jehovah's Organization. I did this until the dawn of the new millennium when I came across with very old publications of the WT that my father had in his library. I had all Rutherford's books and some from Russell. I read them ALL...Well that was the end of my world in WT, since I realize that WT never got a single prophecy in their short history of 140 years, but most of all I was astonished by the arrogance of Judge Jo. It seems he was a person with psychological problems, something you could easily see from his writings.

Another blow on the credibility of the WT occurred when I had the chance to do my own job (something to do with the media)but the elders of the WT opposed to my idea, threatening that they will take away all of my privileges. On the other hand I could see wealthy JW's (and we had a lot) making business, earning millions, enjoying elderly positions. It was clearly double standards by the WT in my case. Then I looked at the internet, found great web pages that confirmed my fears: WT is nothing more than a multimillion dollar company that is using the need of humans to worship God. Since I had a family I continued to attend JW meetings but I stepped down from all of my privileges, since I could no longer support WT. I started the process of fading and I quit meetings. But this wasn't enough for my faithful wife, so after a lot of pressure I said that I don't believe that WT has to do anything with God or so ever. Well she turned me to the elders!!! Mean while I continued my spiritual journey and I have looked many religions and I ended up following a mainstream Christian Church. So I got way from the judicial committee since I told the "elders" what they wanted to hear, but I guess that wasn't enough, since I had to prove my "loyalty" to the WT Society, so after the "appropriate" time of my lined up with the party ended, my wife turned me for a second time to the "loving elders" of the WT Society. I have already decided that I no longer wish to be part of WT, so I wrote a letter to them asking answers for 3 major questions. Well the questions are the ones that you cannot ask WT, so they didn't answer any of them, instead I was labeled as an apostate...

This was the end of my marriage, since there was no way after that to have a peaceful house, due to WT's policy for disfellowshiped persons. But my journey didn't end here. I continue to read and search, since I love reading, then I came up with some notes I wrote few years back regarding some disturbing facts in the Old Testament. I combined this notes with some archeological facts of the Mesopotamian region and the Hebrew nation. The outcome was the following:

1. Noah's Flood was just a replica of an older Sumerian myth the Epic of Gilgamesh. In fact there is no scientific evidence that such event ever took place.
2. The contradictions found in the Old Testament, which are many and one example is the "story" of Cain and Abel. Why God likes animal sacrifices instead of fruits and vegetables? If Cain was cursed to hang around in the land, then how come did he build a city? And how many people it takes to build a city? Why would a God of love who hates human sacrifices demands from Abraham to sacrifice his only son? How come Lot had sex with his own daughters? How come few years after the flood human kind got multiplied so much that they decided to build a city?
3. There is not single archeological evidence either from the Egyptian writings or any other ancient civilization that the Israelites stayed prisoners in Egypt for 400 years and the most ridiculous part is that 70 people in just 400 years managed to become a mighty nation of 3 millions!!! The only reference we had is of Ahomose an Egyptian King that sends out from Egypt a group of thieves, smugglers and bandits called Hyksos because they created much trouble to the Egyptian Empire. So maybe this is the only reference we got for the Israelites and their "great exodus". So being humiliated they created the myth of their Exodus, even they use the name of the Egyptian King Ahomose with a slight change and they present it as their savior - Moses!!! Most of the cities that they occupied have been long before desolated, and the strangest is that how come 3 million people hang around in the desert for 40 years without any archeological evidence.
4. Most of all is the misogynist attitude of the nomad writers of the Old Testament. Women are treated like a low form of life, a belonging and not a human creature. If you rape a virgin then you have to pay to her father a certain amount of money and then you can marry her!!! If a woman doesn't scream in a rape attempt she is guilty of prostitution and she must stone to death!!! So women are just a trade item for those Semitic nomads. Not to mention the supposed genocides that Israelites did by the commands of Jah, the killing of innocent babies because they were males, but they spare the life of female virgins in some cases. Is this God of love? Or how come a God of love forbids anyone who is handicap to enter the Temple, because He considers that they will defile Him by entering? The questions are so many that you can write a book regarding Old Testament absurdness.

Then there also some issues in the New Testament: How come in the Early Christian Church, along with the traditional Gospels that circulate at that time, we had some other Gospels like the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, the Gospel Of Judas, the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Joseph, just to name a few, and those Gospels are rejected by the Church Fathers!!! For instance the Gospel of Magdalene shows that she was equal amongst the rest of the disciples and there was turmoil between them and her, since Jesus gave a special role in the Church, something that they couldn't accept: A woman with Priesthood position...

Again there is a huge difference from the God of Wrath and Jealousy in the Old Testament (you will not worship other God, and if you dare I'll kill you), and with the teachings of Jesus. Jesus preached the universal law of Love, he preached about forgiveness, caring the sick and the old, but most of all that Love conquers all things. He was associated with all those that considered by the Mosaic Law as worth of killing them, prostitutes, tax collectors, Gentiles. It seems that Jesus came from another world and not from the angry God of the Hebrews. Perhaps he was just a person that came to bring a different message to mankind, but no matter what, I still keep his message.

In this journey I'm convinced that, life on this planet came through an evolution process. This is a fact, but still I cannot accept that we are just a coincidence. It is just like having a scrap yard with scattered parts of computer hard disks, hard drives, screens, wires, mother boards, power supply, software programs, and suddenly a tornado passes by and a super computer is being created...I do believe in a Creator of this universe, but I don't believe that any religion on this planet can claim that they represent this Creator. I feel that religion instead of bringing people together it divides them, creating more trouble. The point is the major 3 religions of this word, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, their foundation is based upon FAIRY TALES from some old misogynist nomads invented, in order to keep people suppressed. Religion instead of freeing people it enslaves them. Unfortunately no one has the courage to look deep and examine the roots of those 3 religions that cause and causing so much harm in this world. It is matter of personal choice to examine if your religion is best upon facts or is just a myth, once this is done then the real awaking takes process. Instead of spending our time fighting and debating with each other who is wrong or who is right, we could use that afford to create a better world of understanding.

I guess John Lennon was so right when he said:

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too

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How have you been bless by Satan?

by jam in

satan comes as a angel of light.. when i left the borg and things were going bad for me,.

my sister would tell me (jw) come back.

problem because you left jehovah and his organization.. ok, over the years my life have change drammatically.. a marriage that was doom from the start, a wife that.

JustHuman14

Indeed is Satan's trick Found Ship. Besides apostate forums belong to the devil....

I have also another question:

According to WT if you leave the "Truth"many bad things start to happen to you, and this is the result of your disobedience to Jehovah...So Jehovah somehow panishes you for being a bad boy or a girl...

Again according to WT if you leave them, and you gain money and have a better life, this is proof that Satan is on your side....

So how come the "good"staff comes from Satan, and the bad from God????

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How have you been bless by Satan?

by jam in

satan comes as a angel of light.. when i left the borg and things were going bad for me,.

my sister would tell me (jw) come back.

problem because you left jehovah and his organization.. ok, over the years my life have change drammatically.. a marriage that was doom from the start, a wife that.

JustHuman14

On the contrary NOT AT ALL...My life is sh*t in way due to WT's policy not to seek higher education. I left school to become pioneer in the early 80's, the last 10 years that I left WT I never had a good job, in fact I changed 8 jobs, financially I'm very bad, plus I wish I could find a "wordly devil"woman like yours, who understands you and you are happy with it..I guess most of JW's women fit exactly with the discription of your ex-wife!!!

I guess you are "blessed dude"

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I am disassociating! I need a template for the letter ASAP!!!

by scooterspank in

i'm done with this crap.

i have a wonderful life but the last few months have been hell.

i need the formality of a disassociation letter to my old cong.

JustHuman14

Date:

To the elders of .........congregation

From: Scootersbank

Subject: Disassociation Letter

I would like to inform you that with this letter I'm officially disassociating my self from Watchtower Society Organization, known as Jehovahs Witnesses.

I no longer wish to be part of your Organization, and I demand that all my personal files that are kept in your Kingdom Hall and at WT's headquarters to be erased.

Scootersbank