I am sorry I can't be short and comprehensive in english , but I have tried here .
And "logically" it is following this post .
wantingtruth
who are the chosen ones?
we know that when jesus gave the sign that would be occurring throughout the period known as the last days, he foretold many false prophets and told us not to believe or follow any one of them.
among these false prophets he foretold one that would resemble so closely the true chosen ones, that they might possibly misdlead even the ones who actually were of that number.
I am sorry I can't be short and comprehensive in english , but I have tried here .
And "logically" it is following this post .
wantingtruth
who are the chosen ones?
we know that when jesus gave the sign that would be occurring throughout the period known as the last days, he foretold many false prophets and told us not to believe or follow any one of them.
among these false prophets he foretold one that would resemble so closely the true chosen ones, that they might possibly misdlead even the ones who actually were of that number.
Wannabe . let us hear some important words from Jehovah :
Deuteronomy 31 :
19."Now therefore, write this song for yourselves, and teach it to the sons of Israel; put it on their lips, so that this song may be a witness for Me against the sons of Israel.
20. "For when I bring them into the land flowing with milk and honey, which I swore to their fathers, and they have eaten and are satisfied and become prosperous, then they will turn to other gods and serve them, and spurn Me and break My covenant.
21. "Then it shall come about, when many evils and troubles have come upon them, that this song will testify before them as a witness (for it shall not be forgotten from the lips of their descendants); for I know their intent which they are developing today, before I have brought them into the land which I swore."
22. So Moses wrote this song the same day, and taught it to the sons of Israel.
The Song is in chapter 32 verses 1- 43 .
Now we read again
Revelation 15 :
3. And they sang the song of Moses, the bond-servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying,
"Great and marvelous are Your works,
O Lord God, the Almighty;
Righteous and true are Your ways,
King of the nations!
4"Who will not fear, O Lord, and glorify Your name?
For You alone are holy;
For ALL THE NATIONS WILL COME AND WORSHIP BEFORE YOU,
FOR YOUR RIGHTEOUS ACTS HAVE BEEN REVEALED."
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I am relly well impressed how you draw close to the truth .
For this very reason , because you might be interested in Jehovah's prophecies ,
I invite you to listen to Jehovah's word and to learn the Song of Moses (to study it ) , then God will give to you (through His Spirit ) the "light" that come out of this SONG !
It is important to you - as you "wannabe" a member of His People !
When Jehovah's people have gone wandering , He sent Isaiah to tell them to go to the original "testimony" (because it has the value God Himself decided for it )
Isaiah 8 :
20. To the law and to the testimony !
If they do not speak according to this word, it is because they have no dawn.
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Psalm 119 :
130. The unfolding of Your wordsgives light; It gives understandingto the simple.
wantingtruth
in his fathers eyes he was already a ruling king.
17"as it is written: "i have made you a father of many nations.
god exalted him to the highest place.
You will need to present evidence that A) Psalm 110:1,2 are referring prophetically to the Messiah; B) That if A is true, then that scripture was NOT fulfilled upon Christ's resurrection, since a month or so AFTERWARDS he said, "ALL AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN ME IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH."
Mad Sweeney,
surely Psalm 110:1,2 referres to Messiah , and it doesn't contradict what Jesus said after his resurrection "ALL AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN ME IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH."
The Kingdom of Heavens does not depend by the kingdom over earth , but viceversa is true !
So , Jesus could exercise His recenlty received authority "IN HEAVEN" imediately , without restriction ,
while regarding earth (only) He had to "wait until..." Father will command to Him to start reigning "in the midst of his enemies" - that is, on earth !
It is not complicated , at all .
wantingtruth
in his fathers eyes he was already a ruling king.
17"as it is written: "i have made you a father of many nations.
god exalted him to the highest place.
Wantingtruth!
Here's a little truth for you wanting: Read Psalm 110:1,2 Jehovah had told Jesus: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a stool for your feet." That's why Jesus wouldn't use his authority in heaven. He was too busy obeying his Fathers command to "SIT." He wouldn't "STAND UP" until told to. Daniel 12:1 "Go Subuduing in the midst of your enemies." Were the words he is waiting to hear, before becoming operational as Ruling King. Wannabe
Wannabe,
first i thank you because you responded to me
secondly , I renew my invitation to you, to read my post at the provided link in my previous post, because you did not read it , or you did not understood what I have written there .
Please take into consideration what Jehovah meant by commanding to us "this is My beloved Son ... , Listen to Him!"
and then you will understand better !
Anyway , I am glad for your spiritual journey !
Wantingtruth
in his fathers eyes he was already a ruling king.
17"as it is written: "i have made you a father of many nations.
god exalted him to the highest place.
WHY COULD NOT START JESUS REIGN IN HEAVEN BEFORE STARTING REIGNING OVER EARTH ?
WHERE DOES SAY IN THE BIBLE THAT CHRIST WAS NOT ALLOWED TO USE HIS AUTHORITY IN HEAVENS , WITHOUT USING IT ALSO ON EARTH ?
Wannabe , please give your attention to the Teaching of Christ !
...because Jehovah is a God of order ...
wantingtruth.
who was appointed over god's house?.
just thinking again about this true religion thing.
" from that; would you know enough to ask, whose household is in question here?
Well, the "servant" is Jesus ,
but at his (second ) coming - at the judgement at the Temple , He is "coming in the flesh" !
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2 John
7. Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world.
Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
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What "flesh" ?
-- the expression "flesh" means each "one of the least of these brothers of mine" Matthew 25:40,45.
So , "the servant" in Matt. 24:45 points to several of "his least brothers" on earth at "His coming"
wantingtruth
this preaching work would have to be done by the one that might possibly mislead the chosen ones; due to the fact that, they would be doing a similar work to what all of the first century christian's did.
luke foretold, to the letter, exactly the work this false prophet would be doing, and leaves us with no doubt, as to who this false prophet would be; note now, his words on this:.
8 he said: "look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, i am he, and, the due time has approached.
I see that you want to accomplish that call of Jehovah
Obadiah 1
1 The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord Jehovah concerning Edom: We have heard tidings from Jehovah, and an ambassador is sent among the nations, saying, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle. 2 Behold, I have made thee (the GB of Jws ) small among the nations: thou art greatly despised.
3 The pride of thy heart hath deceived thee, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4 Though thou mount on high as the eagle, and though thy nest be set among the stars, I will bring thee down from thence, saith Jehovah.
5 If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night (how art thou cut off!), would they not steal only till they had enough? if grape-gatherers came to thee, would they not leave some gleaning grapes?
6 How are the things of Esau ( the MoL ) searched! how are his hidden treasures sought out!
7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee on thy way, even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread lay a snare under thee: there is no understanding in him.
8 Shall I not in that day, saith Jehovah, destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?
Why does Jehovah proceeds like that with Esau ??
because...
10. For the violence done to thy brother Jacob( the true chosen ones) ,
shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever .
wantingtruth
did jesus himself tell us anything about that?
" {john14:6 nwt}.
who would know how to do that better than jesus would?
through Jesus Christ .... nearer to God
wt
how many varied religions would you say we have on the earth today?
there's a mass confusion of them isn't there?
1.1 billion catholics, and a host of others too numerous to mention.
Wannabe,
when was Satan hurled down from Heaven ?
wt
i used to post a lot on here but rarely do these days.
i was asked by a friend today to give her some questions for a dub she's meeting tomorrow.
he's an arrogant one who says he can answer any question she has and consequently (haha) demonstrate that it's the truth.
Ask him when the Kingdom took start in heaven - really in 1914 ?
I'm sorry I forgot to underline the end of my post there
I do it here :
"Because Christ started ruling in Heaven immediately after his ressurection , according to the"teaching of Christ", there is no place for such interpretation which leads to 1874 or 1914 or other years as the time for Christ starting to rule in Heaven."
wantingtruth.