Posts by God_Delusion

Also, I would like to add that all of this is the interpretation of the the Governing Body. I have friends that are Catholics, Church of England, etc. and their religions do not teach that God will wipe out nearly every human.

Therefore, my two questions are as follow:

1.) "Aren't the interpretations (views) of the Governing Body, rather extremist? For they claim that even the President of the USA, the British Royal Family, etc. will all be killed in a terrible way."

2.) "Therefore, shouldn't more governments look at following the same tactics as those implemented by the Russian government?"

Carlos

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Anybody Up for a Game of "Find the Subliminals"?

by cameo-d in

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feel free to contribute your own pic or comment on others posted.. .

does anyone else see skulls in the flames?

the magic lamp of the jinn at the bottom of the podium?

God_Delusion

I just see that hot chick, Sarah "OMG" Palin....

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How the WTS hides its cash.....you may find this interesting

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let me explain a little about what i do each day...... i work for a company that arranges trusts in the cook islands, turks & caicos, panama, etc.

i know that blondie is against what i am about to say, but i do not just believe that the wts have a variety of trusts in various jurisdictions around the world......i am absolutely positive they do.. .

i personally look after 14 trusts.

God_Delusion

Lady Lee posted:

"I have a question

Real estate, other companies, cheques people donate - all that is easy to trace. Money from the congregations - that too would be easy to trace.

What about all that cash. The cash that comes in at conventions.

How easy is it for them to stash the cash?"

Basically, it's a fairly easy process. You see, each congregation is, what we call in accounting terms, a Cost Centre (or Center if you're from across the pond). Each one of these Cost Centres makes monthly payments to The Worldwide Work Fund (or they did in my day). The monies collected from the WWF is sent to the Organisation (Watch Tower, not Watchtower). The Watch Tower company is exactly that, a company! It has to pay invoices to suppliers, utility bills, etc.

I would instruct my clients (the big-wigs in the Watch Tower) to register various IBC's (International Business Companies), possibly in The Seychelles and BVI (British Virgin Islands). When we form the companies, we issue something called a Shares Certificate. Normally, these Share Certificates hold the information of the Beneficial Owners, e.g. the real owners of the company. But when you register an IBC, there are certain legal loopholes that allow Nominee Shareholders to be listed on the Shares Certificate, meaning that the actual owners of the IBC are listed, not as the WTS, but as my company. That is the meaning of Nominee Shareholders/Directors. We basically replace our details with that of the real owners.

If you're thinking that no company would do this, because a level of trust would be needed, companies like mine issue something called a Letter of Indemnity, meaning that even though we are the Shareholders (and possible Directors of the IBC), we must adhere to the requirements of the actual Beneficiary Owners.

Interesting huh?

The IBC's that we have now created for the WTS, are companies in their own right. These IBC's need to issue invoices so as to bring funds into the company. They mainly issue invoices to the Watch Tower. Prior to issuing any invoices, we draw up contracts between the IBC (Company X) and the Watch Tower, stating that "for the time period of X to Y, the Watch Tower has agreed to employ us as its Management & Administration company in this territory and that the monthly payment of $30,000 must be paid per calendar month". The Watch Tower happily makes these payments to Company X. They are basically taking money out of their right pocket and putting it in their secret coat pocket.

So you see, removing monies from the Watch Tower is a fairly simple process (if done correctly).

PS. Each District, Circuit Convention is a Cost Centre in its own right. Therefore, whenever you (well, not you, but some half-brain tool) make a donation, you are actually donating money to that specific Cost Centre, NOT the Watchtower.

C Scienza

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How the WTS hides its cash.....you may find this interesting

by God_Delusion in

let me explain a little about what i do each day...... i work for a company that arranges trusts in the cook islands, turks & caicos, panama, etc.

i know that blondie is against what i am about to say, but i do not just believe that the wts have a variety of trusts in various jurisdictions around the world......i am absolutely positive they do.. .

i personally look after 14 trusts.

God_Delusion

Good post JWfacts.

As I stated previously, some Trusts are virtually undetectable. You can bet your bottom dollar that the reason JWfacts gave ("the GB would hold a fear of governments seizing their assets in an attempt to close them down, and the commercial system trying to sue them over pedophilia, blood transfusions and shunning") is one of the main reasons.

But, I still adhere to my opinion that they have Trusts formed for monitary purposes too.

Let me also add that there's actually nothing wrong with having Trusts. The thing that makes it wrong in my eyes, is that they (the Governing Body, Elders, Elders Wives, etc.) go on about how we should keep our lives simple as the end is just around the corner, yet, they run the organisation just like any business; budgeted forecasted accounts, subsidiary companies, Trusts, etc.

That my friends, is what bursts my button....

PS. I know some of you will say that they have to run it like that, but that excuse doesn't wash with me. If they are truly God's Earthly Organisation, then surely he would look after his own? Or does Jehovah inform the GB (via "New Light") that the Legal & Finance Departments have to carry out projected accounts, legal taskings, etc.....

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How the WTS hides its cash.....you may find this interesting

by God_Delusion in

let me explain a little about what i do each day...... i work for a company that arranges trusts in the cook islands, turks & caicos, panama, etc.

i know that blondie is against what i am about to say, but i do not just believe that the wts have a variety of trusts in various jurisdictions around the world......i am absolutely positive they do.. .

i personally look after 14 trusts.

God_Delusion

Mad Sweeney posted "I'm fairly ignorant on this trust issue. What's the point of setting up a trust in a foreign country? To avoid taxes?"

......Hi Mad Sweeney.

Our clients open Trusts for many reasons. We have had clients that wanted to hide funds from their spouse. But mostly, the main reason is for tax issues. Trusts formed in jurisdictions like The Seychelles, The Cook Islands, BVI, etc. are tax havens. Trusts are not taxed if they are managed by an agent that is a resident in the country where the Trust is established. Also, because our clients use companies like the one I work for, their details are not on the Trust. Therefore, when the going gets tough, they can store vast sums of cash in Trusts and only their agents (companies like mine) know about it.

The secondary reason is mostly due to legal duress reasons. For example, we have had clients that are expecting their company to be put into liquidation by the local government. In situations like this, they open Trusts (normally in The Cook Islands as Trusts are practically untouchable if setup properly in that jurisdiction), store their cash in them and then sit back and wait for for the liquidators to come along and wind up the company. This normally affects Partnerships, as LLC's are covered by the capital that was invested in them when the company was formed.

My two cents....

C Scienza

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How the WTS hides its cash.....you may find this interesting

by God_Delusion in

let me explain a little about what i do each day...... i work for a company that arranges trusts in the cook islands, turks & caicos, panama, etc.

i know that blondie is against what i am about to say, but i do not just believe that the wts have a variety of trusts in various jurisdictions around the world......i am absolutely positive they do.. .

i personally look after 14 trusts.

God_Delusion

Rebel8....

As I stated in my post, they are not doing anything illegal by storing their funds in Trusts. The fact is that we are all human. I cannot believe that there are powers that be in the organisation that haven't set themselves up for life. As you'll read a bit further down in this post, I don't view what I say as a belief, but a professional opinion.

It's my opinion that an organisation that is worth what that much (approximately $1 Billion USD) has a team of individuals that are living the very very good life on the back of all the donations.

You see, if the end was nigh, why would the organisation setup subsidiary companies that deal in Real Estate, Paper, etc.? If Jehovah was about to bring the mass genocide upon this Earth, would they need to be looking at how to invest, so as to make sure their non-profit organisation would be a going concern in years to come?

In my opinion (and it's my professional opinion), the real top big-wigs in the organisation, do not actually believe a thing that the GB teach. They keep this wagon going because it is what it is....a money-making machine.

Think about it. What a beautiful business model they've got going on. The take in donations and with the funds they've collected, they purchase (or build) Real Estate, fund other projects, etc. They have millions of volunteers that work for free, making sure that the organisation remains a going concern.

I don't want to brag, but I'm good at what I do. As a Corporate Services Auditor, it's my job to review the history of the company before providing our services to them. We call this "Due Diligence". Over the past few months, I've done my own due diligence on the organisation. The way they have evolved over the years, proves to me what I stated above, that in my professional opinion, there are those at the very top that do not believe an iota of what they preach, but instead, manage the organisation as an international conglomerate.

Hope that helps.

Carlos Scienza

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How the WTS hides its cash.....you may find this interesting

by God_Delusion in

let me explain a little about what i do each day...... i work for a company that arranges trusts in the cook islands, turks & caicos, panama, etc.

i know that blondie is against what i am about to say, but i do not just believe that the wts have a variety of trusts in various jurisdictions around the world......i am absolutely positive they do.. .

i personally look after 14 trusts.

God_Delusion

Let me explain a little about what I do each day.....

I work for a company that arranges Trusts in the Cook Islands, Turks & Caicos, Panama, etc. I know that Blondie is against what I am about to say, but I do not just believe that the WTS have a variety of Trusts in various jurisdictions around the world......I am absolutely positive they do.

I personally look after 14 Trusts. 3 of these Trusts are under the umbrella of non-profit organisations, like the WTS. One of the clients in my portfolio is larger than the WTS.

The Trusts we setup are administered by us and the beneficiaries (the real owners) remain anonymous, to the point where I do not even know the identities of the real owners; that information is a little above my pay grade.

If the WTS haven't got at least 10 Trusts active at the moment, I would take a serious look at who their Financial Advisors are. Oh, and before you say that they have got dubs working as their Financial Advisors, trust me on this, they don’t. You’ll see why in a second.

Trusts are simple accounts. Smaller nations (such as the Cook Islands, Turks & Caicos, etc.) allow individuals, companies, etc. to open Trusts. They don’t allow these Trusts to be unbreakable, but that’s where the loopholes take on an entire new meaning.

I won't go into the stringent dynamics of how Trusts are created, as that would take all day. I've given a brief description (below) of how I advise my clients to do exactly what the WTS is doing.

How would I siphon funds from the WTS? Simple really. We all say that the WTS owns other companies (Real Estate, IT, Arms, etc.). All they need to do is make sure that the beneficial owners of these subsidiary companies are not on the board of the non-profit side of the business (WTS). Each month, these companies invoice the WTS for Management & Administration costs. Oh, did I state that we advise our clients that it’s best to make sure that all subsidiary companies (owned by them) invoicing their non-profit organisation, should be registered in an offshore location, such as Panama, Cyprus, The Seychelles, BVI, especially if the monthly invoices total more than $30,000USD? These subsidiaries are called IBC’s (International Business Companies/Corporations). The invoiced amounts need to be below $90,000USD per month, so as not to arouse suspicion, although we advise our clients how to exceed the 90K mark without any problems if that is the clients requirement.

In turn, we advise another company to be created, normally a company on Nevis Island. The Nevis LLC (Limited Liability Company/Corporation) bills the IBC companies. Being registered on the Island of Nevis, the reason of the invoice doesn’t matter at all.

The funds taken in by the Nevis LLC are then distributed to the various Trusts.

And that, my good friends, is how it’s done.

Therefore, in a nutshell, I would presume all international non-profit organisations own Trusts.

If any of you are interested in setting up a Trust yourselves, go for the Cook Islands Trust Plan. Even the Hague Convention can't touch a Cook Island Trust. They are practically impenetrable.

Kind Regards

C Scienza

PS. If you actually believe that the WTS does not distribute it's funds in the way I proposed, then I am sorry, but the only word that comes to mind, is naïve. Also, everything I have explained above is legal. No laws are broken. Corporate Service companies like mine, know how to bend the law right up until it serves our purpose. I assure you that the WTS uses several companies like the one I work for.

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if you had a choice on the method of your death

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what would you choose?.

God_Delusion

The same way Jesus, Mithra and Horus died.

Carlos