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  When did The Watchtower stop printing Convention Reports?

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower used to print "souvenir" booklets to record the happenings at their assemblies and conventions.. then it became a "convention report".. these come up from time to time for auction on ebay.. but convention reports are not published anymore by the watchtower.

  when did they stop?.

  does anyone know the year the last convention report was published?.

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  lancelink

  In the late 70's several friends and I went to an assembly in Billings Montana.
  There was a campground next to the auditorium, and since rodeo's were the BIG thing out there,
  we were able to take showers in the area where they hosed down the cattle.
  
  Now I look back and it feels like I was living in the twilight zone during that time
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  Society to start laminating paper backed publications

  by Lady Zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  at the wednesday night ministry school meeting, a letter from the society was read announcing that wtbts paperbacked publications will begin to be laminated.

  according to the letter, this "will save approximately 2 million dollars per year," "lengthen the life of the publications," and "increase the attractiveness" of the publications.. so there's that.. .

  also, will someone please explain to me why 85% of the congregation started smiling and nodding at this.. i sometimes think that headquarters could send the congregations boxes of turds and the jws would act like it was the best thing ever..

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  lancelink

  it is incredibly telling that
  some JWs will pay $10.00 + s/hto modify a publication for which
  they likely "donated" no more than $2.00....

  I showed this to several peopleI know who are printers.

  They laughed !

  A job like this uses 1.00 max for binding,and .50 to laminate.

  Someone is making money here !
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  why JW'sdont vote/ Serena Williams version

  by lancelink in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is the link found on msn this afternoon :.

  http://www.slate.com/id/2194321/&gt1=39001.

  and here is the text,in case the link does not work :.

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  lancelink

  Here is the link found on MSN this afternoon :

  http://www.slate.com/id/2194321/>1=39001

  And here is the text,in case the link does not work :

  Serena Williams told reporters at Wimbledon on Wednesday that she's excited about Barack Obama's candidacy but won't vote for him because Jehovah's Witnesses "don't get involved in politics." Her sister Venus—who is also a Jehovah's Witness—wouldn't even comment on the presidential election. Why don't Jehovah's Witnesses vote?

  Because of John 17:14 and other passages in the Bible. In that verse, Jesus says of his followers: "They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world." Jehovah's Witnesses have interpreted that statement as a call to remain neutral in all political matters. (In some of the sect's literature, members are described as "representatives of God's heavenly kingdom"; they are thus obligated to stay out of local political affairs in keeping with the behavior of ambassadors.) Witnesses also refrain from serving in the military, running for public office, and pledging allegiance to the flag.

  Voting is not expressly prohibited, but it is discouraged. The Watchtower, the official publication of the Jehovah's Witnesses, ran an article in 1999 suggesting that the decision whether to vote was one of personal conscience, although it carefully laid out reasons for staying out of the voting booth. In reference to countries that require all citizens to show up at the ballot box, the Watchtower has explained that "[w]here Caesar makes it compulsory for citizens to vote … [Jehovah's Witnesses] can go to the polls and enter the voting booths," but the Watchtower did not specify what Witnesses should do with the ballot itself. According to some, the requirement for political neutrality led to the violent persecution of Witnesses in Malawi during the late 1960s and early 1970s, when adherents refused to register with the ruling Congress Party.

  Most Jehovah's Witnesses in America do, in fact, abstain from voting. According to a survey released this week by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, the religious group is far more likely than any other to believe that there is only one true way to interpret religious teachings. In keeping with that adherence, just 13 percent reported they were registered to vote.

  While Witnesses have shied away from electoral politics, they have left a strong mark on the judicial branch: The group has brought several dozen civil-liberties cases before the Supreme Court, including a famous 1943 case over whether Jehovah's Witnesses could be forced to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in schools.

  Jehovah's Witnesses are by far the largest religious group that refuses to vote, but they are not the only ones: Old Order Amish, Christadelphians, and Rastafarians have all traditionally shunned politics. (In the case of both the Amish and the Rastafarians, though, attitudes have changed a bit in the last few years.) Nationally, about 2 percent of people who don't register to vote cite religious reasons. If Jehovah's Witnesses did vote, they probably wouldn't form a large bloc anyway: the group makes up less than 1 percent of the U.S. population and is widely distributed across the country.

  Got a question about today's news? Ask the Explainer.

  Explainer thanks Jim Beckford of the University of Warwick, John Green of the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, Bryce Hemmelgarn of the Watchtower Office of Public Information, Donald Kraybill of Elizabethtown College, and Rodney Stark of Baylor University.

  Jacob Leibenluft is a writer from Washington, D.C.

  Article URL: http://www.slate.com/id/2194321/
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  Were you shocked about MS that you know of that got appointed as an Elder?

  by asilentone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  you might be thinking wtf he should not be an elder or something like that.

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  One time about 10 years ago, this brother moved into my hall.marriage status: divorced. He would only do side cleaning jobs and aux, pioneer so that his child support payments would be minimal ( he actually told several people and myself these little facts!) And boy, was he a smooth operator, made the moves on ALL the single, divorced, and "having trouble in their marriage" attractive sisters. One time he was actually holding the hand of one sister at the book study, telling her that she should study with him to help "encourage" her. That was the straw that broke the camels back for me! He attended the book study I was assigned to at a time when I was really attempting to reach out. After seeing him hit on the sisters, I basically got tired of his BS and spoke to the elders about what he was doing, and his reasons for aux. pioneering. I was very calm, and let them know the facts, and had two other persons who saw him in action, and heard his story. Well the CO came three weeks later, and guess what? He was appointed an MS !!! And the thing that really got me starting to doubt that this was Gods "organization", One of the elders I had talked to earlier, made it very obvious to look directly at me when he was reading the "big" announcement that night. Talk about feeling humiliated. Anyway he ended up getting remarried, and his wife died of a drug overdose several years later. Then he very quickly goes out,remarries,and becomes an elder.Then during the next session he started having major parts on the CA and DA. Last year when I went to the CA to make an appearance one day, I only saw his current wife ( lets see here,,I think she was #3) and he was nowhere to be seen. In fact now that I realize it, it seems that he totally vanished. Appointed directly by Gods spirit? I don't think so.
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  An in-depth look inside WT Headquarters {photos}

  by sf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://family.webshots.com/album/546501493vsyykr

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  lancelink

  OMG, check out picture # 79 of 111, on page 7. who would drive that truck in broad daylight,,, in New York ?
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  How can I prevent harrassment to my kids from self-righteous dub relatives?

  by candela in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i live with my hubby and children outside of my native country.

  we will be going home for a vacation soon after many years.

  we're faders and most of our jw relatives have adopted a don't ask-don't tell policy about our decision and we are perfectly fine with it.

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  my opinion is to pull the tag team over to one side when you all arrive.
  Tell them in respectful terms that you do not want them talking to the children about
  ANYTHING related to the JW's.
  You and your spouse are raising the children the way you see best, throw out
  Ephesians 6:1 ( Children be obedient to your parents in union with the lord)
  or
  1 John 5:21, (little children, guard yourselves from idols)
  
  Hopefully they will get the hint and leave them alone.
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  Elder's WIFE in college!

  by hardhearted in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i bet this is different than a minor child in college... i can only hope that the new information from the co will cause a lot of jw's and elders to scratch their heads and consider what exactly is going on here.

  if this information causes an exodus of elders... that is very good.

  imagine, an elder being removed because his wife is in college.

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  lancelink

  AHHH.
  
  Does anyone like star trek ?
  
  This seems to be a classic Kobayashi Maru situation.
  
  watch it here if this is a new idea :
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDE8pjiCnSw
  
  
  
  
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  For bird and nature freaks -- birth of a hummingbird

  by parakeet in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  my husband forwarded this to me a few hours ago: .

  birth of a hummingbird.

  keep in mind the egg is smaller than a tic tac and a quarter fits the opening of the nest!

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  lancelink

  very pretty, thank you for sharing
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  No Emotion at Funerals

  by DiscoSandy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a chaperone for my daughter's out-of-town volleyball tournament last weekend - got to meet another mom that had grown up in the same area i grew up in.

  she proceeded to ask about my childhood, etc.

  and i had to spill the beans on my jw background (i usually keep this to myself!

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  lancelink

  several years ago I traveled over three hours each way to attend the funeral of a good friend. The CO gave the talk, and I was just astounded at the way that the whole talk was an info-commercial for the JW's. The person who died was just an after thought.
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  any new updates regarding "higher" education ?

  by lancelink in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems that within the last two weeks comments regarding the thought that elders and ms would be demoted if their.

  children went to college was pretty popular.. i mentioned this to quite a few "on the edge" witnesses who are really pro-education and they were really interested in learning more about this, or hearing it from the .

  platform, magazine, or co (who just left last week.).

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  lancelink

  I also heard an interesting comment last week.

  An elders son who recently graduated from HS was offered a complete scholarship to a well known Illinois University's medical school.

  He turned it down and the reason he did this was because he might have to order blood transfusions for patients,( so,, he would rather pioneer! )

  After reading all the posts regarding higher education, I am beginning to understand that his parents no doubt guided him away from college, and to look toward pioneering.

  The kid is very bright, but I wonder how long he will put up with this BS over the years.

  What as total waste of a young mind, it sickens me to see people ( dad is an elder, mom is a pioneer) put their positions in this religion above their childrens welfare !!