free will and so called perfect created humans cant mix, its destined to fail, being tempted by an evil predator was destined to fail also, sorry buddy a big fail, your utopian dream is a complete fantasy and a rather stupid one.
jookbeard
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Orginal sin: Tree of knowledge of good and evil
by dreddie intelling and knowing the truth.. it is your job to tell and know the truth and not be decived by the lies of satan.. believing this, you need the knowledge of what is good and evil.
because with the bible you believe you can know the truth.
where there is no knowledge of the truth and good and evil.
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All 2016 Convention videos in English and all Talk outlines for download
by Watchtower-Free inall convention videos in english and all talk outlines for download.
http://avoidjw.org/2016-regional-convention/
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jookbeard
how many parts altogether of the "bunker" video is there? I was expecting the armour clad members of the special police force to search the bunker and turn around and radio to their superiors that there is nothing to be seen here, when asked why the captain of the special police force says the bunker is protected by "big guys"
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What does the Armageddon Genocide Actually Accomplish?
by xjwsrock inwhy murder 8 billion non-believers to just turn around and resurrect 20 billion other non-believers?
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jookbeard
my research has led me to believe that there is a possibility that there could have been more then 500 billion people who have died in the many many thousands of years man has resided on the planet, that makes the murder of the 7 odd billion people at the Big A even more pointless, even if it was to happen it will all go wrong again when Satan is released the final time, its guaranteed, this god has a bad record of screwing things up
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how many bethels are left
by pepperheart inwith the news these past days that bethels in both rome and belguim are being closed does anybody know how many bethels are left worldwide?
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jookbeard
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"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free"
by stuckinarut2 inah yes... how do the words attributed to jesus feel now?.
"you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free ".
knowing "the truth about 'the truth'" puts so much extra meaning into those words, right?.
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jookbeard
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Convention coming to a city near YOU...
by Sugar Shane in...and it's our duty to warn non-jws, or half awake jws about these events, as they start appearing in newspapers throughout the us, and abroad.
it almost comes out as a promotional ad for the jw convention.
the 'current events' editing staff of this paper likely has no idea what their promoting.
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jookbeard
I left a comment, I liked the comment by someone about only keeping comments relevant about the venue! no it does not work like that! -
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New Member
by DangerMcDanger inmy name is jimbo, i'm almost 20 years old, and i live in southern california.
here we go, here's my story (i feel like i'm in an aa meeting haha):.
i was invited by a friend who, looking back, i could tell was buttering me up for months so she can lunge on the perfect opportunity to invite me to a meeting.
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jookbeard
welcome buddy good to have you on here, Google certainly is a good friend to have and I left well before the interweb, just visits to library's, outreach groups and mail order subscriptions to exjw material like FreeMinds and Comments from the Friends, and a very small network of exjw's that helped with my exiting. There was no trigger for me to go back ever, once I was gone that was it and my beliefs against this vile damaging cult only became more entrenched and my convictions even stronger. -
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JWs in denial, so sad
by Simon ini had a couple of jw sisters call at my door today.. they started with the bizarre "can we read you a scripture" and read about "death being no more" and asked what i thought of that.. i said it sounded like a mix of disney and dumb.. they then launched into how god was going to put an end to death and wasn't that wonderful?.
i said it would have been more wonderful if he'd not created death in the first place.. they thought man created death by disobeying so i questioned why god couldn't have just forgiven them.
apparently "because he loves us" is supposed to be a satisfactory answer to why he kills us.. i asked how loving it was to kill hundreds of thousands of children in tsunami's, disease and so on.. at this point, they gave up on the 'god is love' and switched to the bible being true no matter what because it was an old book and moses had written the first chapter (says the book).. when i suggested it really wasn't that old and that most of the bible myths were copies of older stories from before it was written they questioned if i studied the bible and theology.. then i told them i was brought up as a jw so knew it was all crap.. now it was game on, they immediately switched to play defence questioning why i'd left (and i think they'd already taken a step back away from "the evil" obviously emanating from me).. not much time to say much before they cut and run so i told them i'd left because i found out it was all based on lies and that the watchtower was corrupt and covered up things like child abuse.. oh no, you're thinking of the catholics one of them said (some disdain in how she said "catholics" as though "we're so much better than them").. "well, i challenge you to do a search for the australian royal commission and you'll see the testimony the watchtower leaders gave and the damning evidence that they covered up abuse and reported none of it to the police.".
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jookbeard
DisArmed, they are haemorrhaging members like in no other stage in their history,social media/web blogs and forums like this are getting massive amount of lurking visitors, their only growth comes from third world nations who are not web savvy, the stats dont lie
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JW said they are unique
by StephaneLaliberte inlooking at a news article, i read the following:.
“that’s one thing that’s unique about jehovah’s people,” said marty mettler, a spokesman for the green bay convention.
“they even tell the hotels when they book they’re coming because some people book and don’t show.
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jookbeard
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Convention Releases 2016 available on JW.ORG
by Designer Stubble innow available on jw.org the rc 2016 releases (all downloadable movies, no books)for a certainty god made him lord and christhttps://www.jw.org/finder?locale=en&pub=lrc&prefer=lang&srcid=sharehope for what we do not seehttps://www.jw.org/finder?locale=en&pub=dns&prefer=lang&srcid=shareoh jehovah...i trust in youhttps://www.jw.org/finder?locale=en&pub=tiy&prefer=lang&srcid=share
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jookbeard
Sir thats what I think, holding them in vast sports stadiums are a thing of the past because of the huge cost and safety requirements etc, indoor arenas must still be very expensive though, holding them in their own CA halls must be the way to go for them now.