Fisherman, the victim of Greenleas' sickening vile abuse is detailed on this very forum, he was a young Finnish kid whose parents were working at the HQ in the translation dept, he abused the young boy in his very own room in Bethel, there were more, there is a lot more about Chittys homosexuality that has not been made public, the sickening thing is the punishments they received with easy postings to the Canadian and UK branches where they lived their final years in relative comfort and died in good standing, truly hypercritical , could you imagine any lowly member of the Bethel HQ being treated similarly? IMO the Oracle Fred Franz was a closet homosexual and Knorr whose unhealthy obsession with sex made him a prime example of a closeted gay, for a time I'd imagine the Bethel HQ was a real homosexual enclave and reached endemic proportions.
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Chitty
by StopTheTears ini've learned that many years ago, there was a man named brother chitty of some prominence in the jehovah's witnesses organization.
it fact, chitty was a member of the governing body.
chitty was asked to resign his position after serving for many years and nothing much was ever said about it to jehovahs witnesses.
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This thread is for proof that God exists
by juandefiero inhowever, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?
if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.
(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.
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Can I pick up a New World Translation from the JW London head office?
by Camperdown9 ini'm an anglican and not a jehovahs witness.
what i dislike about lots of church congregations is their readiness to make unpleasant and unhelpful comments about other christian groups.
recently someone in a church tried to tell me a little about the views of jehovahs witnesses.
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they started a "cart" campaign a few years back to replace partly the pointless waste of time that " door knocking" used to be that what was they were infamous for, they generally just stand/sit around waiting for passers by to take the mags/brochures but in all honesty its just as pointless and an and even bigger waste of time, the jw's generally just sit around gossiping and playing with their phones, in a few years time I doubt you will see these carts at train stations /town centres etc, I sense you know a little bit more about them though than perhaps you are revealing. -
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Can I pick up a New World Translation from the JW London head office?
by Camperdown9 ini'm an anglican and not a jehovahs witness.
what i dislike about lots of church congregations is their readiness to make unpleasant and unhelpful comments about other christian groups.
recently someone in a church tried to tell me a little about the views of jehovahs witnesses.
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members of the WTS and their literature are just as and even more judgemental and condemnatory in as strong language that can be possible,look at their mags and literature over the years in their attacks on the so called "churches of Christendom" which they dont realise they are part of, decades of child abuse cover ups, shunning and the ripping apart of families, untold deaths from their blood ban policy, and general lies and cover ups in their never ending changing doctrine, truly dishonest, do you think there is anything positive from that small list? If you want to obtain a bible from them your best option is to visit a local kingdom hall on a meeting night and get one.They are a dangerous high control toxic cult and one of the very worst. -
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I am losing
by NoMoreHustle ini haven't posted anything for a bit, but wanted to express how i am losing this battle.
it has been over 3 years now since i woke up about watchtower.
the battle that i am talking about is the tug of war with my wife (i adore her immensely), watchtower is winning, she simply will not give in to my so-called negative thoughts about the religion that we are in.
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I went through the same issues with my wife, she remained loyal to the Borg, we divorced, no children in 1995, I like you deeply cared for her and loved her, but the cracks started to appear even before we married and sadly I found out the hard way she had some deep routed emotional problems that bordered on psychosis, she was very violent to me before and after we married but I just soldiered on hoping we may improve, the problem came when I started to fade and was becoming almost obsessional in my new found research about the cult, I was getting hold of as much written information as I could (pre internet) and would spend hours parked up in the car sitting there reading, I'm the sort of person though who cannot keep new found material to myself very easily , I was like a kid with a new toy and I could not keep these findings to myself when together. I often wondered if I could have rewound my like to back than and pondered it I should have done things differently, I dont think it would have made much difference in the grand scheme of things, we divorced after 5 years of marriage, I gave her a scriptural divorce and she remarried, I saw here briefly at my fathers funeral in 2005 and saw her briefly in 2002, I have no idea what she is upto these days. -
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Our COBE(Coordinator Of Body of Elders) Cried at the Kingdom Hall
by James Jack init was announced recently, that "bro.
z is no long the coordinator(76 years old), bro y(60) is now the new coordinator of the body of elders".. you see, bro.
z has been an elder for 43 years and 35 of them as the cobe/po.
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What would we all do if the watchtower collapsed tomorrow ?
by stan livedeath ini would probably collapse laughing.
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laugh as well Stan, not going to make much difference to my life at all , I have one sister left I doubt we'd be very close even if we were never Dubs, my life has been devoid of having to lead a life that includes petty stupid small mindedness that encompasses what I was a member of for over 20 years and I've done OK -
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lf you could ask god questions what would they be?
by atomant inthought it might be an interesting exercise to read the variety of questions people might ask.
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why did you and your old buddy have to include us poor mere mortals in your dick waving competition? couldn't you have done it in some far flung corner of the universe and let your creation just get on with their lives without having to endure for 1000's of years of utter desperate hardships? and how much longer is this pointless, childish,selfish and utterly ridiculous dick waving competition going to go on for? dont you think we've suffered long enough FFS? -
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Almost three months since Crisis of Conscience Cease and Desist
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am very interested in getting crisis of conscience being fully available as soon as possible.
march 12th will mark exactly three months since the cease-and-desist letter was written.. i understand that things are slow and that deborah may be sick, but i was just wondering if anyone knew the status.
i have been asked twice already where the book can be obtained in spanish and i have told people that the book is not available.. there are ways to make ebooks extremely hard to share.
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I dont think I would last an hour