Posts by processor

i started a thread a few days ago that probably went unnoticed for the most part (under "scandals & cover-ups") regarding steve hitting selma in tomorrow's wt study... i just wanted to recap it here for those who may have missed it.... the spanish version changes the story completely.... if you've read that paragraph 12 it basically says that steve hit selma as she tried to prove a point.

selma then feels sorry for herself.. in the spanish version steve merely gets furious with her and she gets sad.. by the way, i just looked up the italian version... .

selma ricorda una lezione che imparo dalla sorella che le conduceva lo studio.

processor

The German version says something like "he got furious" too. No mention of any beating, hitting etc.

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Would David be DF today?

by jam in

i think david broke all the commandments in his day.. murder, beheading of goliath, that,s a little to much.. murder of the philistine and taking their foreskins, ok thats,.

sadistic even if it ment marry saul daughter.. he became freinds with unbeleivers (he accepts the town.

of ziklag from the philistine king.. adultery (bathsheba) and killed her old man.. and he coveted his neighbor,s wife.. when i was a elder and someone was being df,.

processor

Among the people who must be disfellowship(p)ed according to JW regulations are:

Jehovah	Promotion of false doctrines (2 Peter 1:21); practice of spiritism (Job 1:7); drunkenness (Psalm 78:65); fits of anger (Psalm 78:66; Ezekiel 7:19); extortion (Deuteronomy 28); violation of neutrality (Numbers 21:14); deliberate lying (Genesis 2:17; 13:15)
Noah	Drunkenness (Genesis 9:20-22)
Abraham	Support of false religion (Genesis 22:10); refusal to provide for the family (Genesis 21:14-16); violation of neutrality (Genesis 14)
Lot	Drunkenness (Genesis 19:30-36)
Jacob	Idolatry (Genesis 31:32); deliberate lying (Genesis 27:19, 24)
Rachel	Idolatry (Genesis 31:19)
Judah	Fornication (Genesis 38:15-18)
Joseph	Practice of spiritism (Genesis 44:5)
Moses	Promotion of false doctrines (Exodus 14:13); manslaughter (Exodus 2:11, 12); misuse of blood (Exodus 7:20, 21)
Rahab	Fornication (James 2:25)
Gideon	Idolatry (Judges 8:27)
Samson	Fornication (Judges 16:1)
David	Fornication (2 Samuel 11:2-4); violence (1 Samuel 18:7); violation of neutrality (1. Chronicles 28:3)
Shulammite	Loose conduct (Song of Solomon 7:11, 12)
Elijah	Reviling (1 Kings 18:27)
Jehu	Support of false religion (2 Kings 10:18-20)
Daniel	Violation of neutrality (Daniel 2:48)
Nehemiah	Fits of anger; reviling (Nehemiah 13:23-25)
Jesus	Promotion of false doctrines (Matthew 5:43, 44); causing of divisions (Luke 12:51-53); practice of spiritism (Matthew 8:31, 32; Luke 9:30, 31)
Peter	Manslaughter (Acts 5:4, 5)
Paul	Idolatry (Acts 17:23); fits of anger (Acts 15:39)
Barnabas	Fits of anger (Acts 15:39)
James	Promotion of false doctrines (James 1:27)
John	Practice of spiritism (Revelation 1:4)

See "Disfellowshipping – A Timeless Arrangement" in the July and August 2010 Witchtower issues:

http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/witchtower_07_2010.pdf

http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/witchtower_08_2010.pdf

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Since the early WTCD doesn't have older publication

by thecrushed in

i didn't ask why they don't because their own literature makes them out as horrible frauds!

my question is how do you get a hold of stuff like the "finished mystery" "the divine plan of the ages" and other pertinent false doctrine that has been swept under the rug and locked in the coffers at wt headquarters?

i feel so helpless because if i show my wife info on the net she will just write it off as apostate and altered like we have all been trained to think.

processor

http://wtarchive.svhelden.info/

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Who here likes Eurovision?

by TimothyT in

jw
friends

hey guys.. for those of you in europe, australia and even usa if you know it, who likes the eurovision song contest?

its great!!!

40 or so singers from all different countries all come together for a massive show where they all sing their song for 3 mins and then move on for the next singer.

processor

I like it, but I consider it more a comedy event than a serious musical contest. And we have really good musicians in Germany, but we always spare no effort to find an untalented, incapable Nobody and create an extraordinarily boring song for him.

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Watchtower Dec 2011 Makes fun of fools who think the end is 2012. Ironic??

by Witness 007 in

wachtower dec 1 2011 p.10 "french village faces influx of apocalypse believers...they believe the world will end 21 december 2012 when the end of....ancient maya calander...despite predictions by calamity-howling religious leaders, pseudoscientists, and any other prognosticators, earth will be in existence for a long time...when will this occur?

no human knows.

jehovah's witnesses do not try to predict when god will destroy the wicked...{really?

processor

The end can't come when anybody is expecting it. So as long as anybody is expecting it, it cannot come.

Billy: Expected by whom? To whom does 'you' refer? The world or true Christians?

Jesus clearly told his disciples (according to the Bible) that it would come when THEY do not expect it.

So, if Jesus was right, and Jehovah's Witnesses are true Christians, it will not come as long as they are expecting it. On the other hand, Jesus told his disciples to be on the watch - so to speak, to be always expecting the end.

- True Christians must always be expecting the end

- The end will come when true Christians are not expecting it (means, the end will not come when true Christians are expecting it)

--> The end will never come ... so the prophecy is fulfilled.

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