I do enjoy reading thought provoking works of fiction.
Agreed, however I find that the most thought provoking and
insightful fiction, (of the science sort and otherwise), are works
that are meaningfully informed by reality.
Like Kurt Vonnegut, and well, Phillip K Dick:
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick
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Inkling, if I may, what I think JB is going on about is that humans were designed by space men from the planet Nibiru. So, naturally we didn't evolve.
Yeah, that's the impression I got too.
My point is that someone who replaces one far fetched creation myth
with no supporting evidence for another, can hardly honestly call
themselves "agnostic" in the usual sense of the word.
I guess I should simply ask what exactly JB is "agnostic" about.
I bring this up because worldviews like JB are the reason I am
hesitant to label myself an "agnostic" when discussions of god
come up. I do feel somewhat agnostic as to the existence of
SOME sort of god, simply because I realize how bad humans
are at wrapping their heads around concepts such as space
time, and quantum physics, and how we insist on asking such
"absurd" questions like "what is outside the universe"
So, because I don't claim to understand THESE things, I guess
that makes me agnostic to a sort of "god" that could exist within them.
However, I am worried that if I identify myself as "agnostic" in
conversation, people will assume I am agnostic about things like,
say, the literal God of the Bible.
I am not. The god described in the bible is cruel and absurd and
not worthy of worship even if he did exist.
I am also not agnostic about astrology, homeopathy, the rapture,
Adam and Eve, or magic tricks.
I think there is a wealth of relevant evidence on these subjects,
and that evidence is stacked heavily enough on one side to
come to a reasonably conclusion, i.e. not agnosticism.
So why does it feel so weird when I try to call myself an atheist?
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didn't know if this has been addressed before , but it's kinda interesting.
when we were witnesses we were always told,oh!
don't look at horoscopes or read anything about your sign because it's demonized !
"What Sign Were You Born Under?"
"Maternity Ward", I'm guessing....
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jaguarbass:
First, you say:
"Human anatomy and Physiology by Marieb".....To me it proves we did not evolve.
And then a few sentences later:
"I'm an agnostic at 57."
Huh? How can you call yourself an agnostic as to some some sort of creator being/s,
when you JUST SAID that you are convinced- that is has been proven to your satisfaction-
that we did not evolve? If we didn't evolve, the only other option is that we were created
by an intelligent agency. This agency (I am assuming you feel it is a higher alien race)
either THEMSELVES evolved, or were created by some god like force, or ARE some god
like force... Either way, this leaves no room in your belief system for claiming to be
"agnostic" in regard to belief in some higher creative power.
"I was a believer"
And you still are.
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this is a tmz link claiming to be a live feed from the site of an .
upcoming news conference about mj's death.. http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-press-conference-one/.
people are singing, and clapping, and cheering like it's a party.. huh?
Only if they were 10 yr. old boys.
ooooo, postmortem burn
this is a tmz link claiming to be a live feed from the site of an .
upcoming news conference about mj's death.. http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-press-conference-one/.
people are singing, and clapping, and cheering like it's a party.. huh?
I hear people shouting "We Love You Michael!!"
Maybe he would be pleased...
still "unconfirmed", but what the hell is going on?.
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=jeff+goldblum.
Gah! Thanks for the tip, inkling. I heard about it from a colleague, so I was primed to believe.... now I can lord it over her.... ;)
Actually we were ALL primed to believe, after two comfirmed celebrity deaths in the same day,
it is the PERFECT time to pull out hoaxs like these. I would have fallen right for it, if not for Leolaia.
But then, Leolaia has superhuman bologna detection powers...
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this is a tmz link claiming to be a live feed from the site of an .
upcoming news conference about mj's death.. http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-press-conference-one/.
people are singing, and clapping, and cheering like it's a party.. huh?
This is a TMZ link claiming to be a live feed from the site of an
upcoming news conference about MJ's death.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-press-conference-one/
People are singing, and clapping, and cheering like it's a party.
Huh? Isn't that just in bad taste?
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http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-press-conference-one/
still "unconfirmed", but what the hell is going on?.
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=jeff+goldblum.
Wow, even more bizarre, Tom Hanks died today in the exact same accident!!!
http://tom.hanks.swellserver.com/news/top_stories/actor_new_zealand.php
Some people need to check the filter on their bologna detection kit methinks...
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anyone had any experiences good or bad.
i'm interested in your stories.. .
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It wasn't nearly as bright, but still a cherry red. ... It was probably a meteorite, which is fairly unusual to actually see.
I just want to point out that meteorites are not hot when they land.
The glow while falling because stuff is being broken off them and
burning up in the atmosphere, but they actual rock that survives is
barely warm. They have been found just sitting on top of a frozen lake.
Also, to hear a hissing sound would require it to be VERY close.
Like, so close that you shouldn't have to hike to find it.
It sounds to me more like a firework/flare type thing. Is that possible?
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