Posts by inkling

All he does is ask for evidence thereof.

You say a ghost did it.
I say a fairy did it
He says god did it.
Someone else says a raccoon did it.

All of those claims are equal, until one of us comes comes up with evidence backing our version.

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Is rejecting supernatural explanations close-minded?

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jw
friends

here is an excellent video regarding the accusation that skeptics are.

"close-minded" to the supernatural and to woo-based explanations .

if you have ever been on either side of one of these conversations, .

inkling

Unless magic and science can live side by side the world will be out of kilter.

They MUST be using magic to fly, becuase those dragons are chubby little buggers.

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Is rejecting supernatural explanations close-minded?

by inkling in

jw
friends

here is an excellent video regarding the accusation that skeptics are.

"close-minded" to the supernatural and to woo-based explanations .

if you have ever been on either side of one of these conversations, .

inkling

If it were me, I would have investigated this a bit more to figure out what was going on.

Exactly.

Like the video said, show a little bit of curiosity and open mindedness.

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Is rejecting supernatural explanations close-minded?

by inkling in

jw
friends

here is an excellent video regarding the accusation that skeptics are.

"close-minded" to the supernatural and to woo-based explanations .

if you have ever been on either side of one of these conversations, .

inkling

My point is, and has been, to the skeptics:
YOU WERE NOT THERE.
YOU DID NOT SEE THE DANCING LIGHT COME INTO THE ROOM.

It's so odd that we are both making the same point, and yet we still are miles apart.

I was not there. That is precisely the point.
If I WAS there, then we could have a conversation about what happened,
because we could ask questions and confirm details and explore other
possibilities that time and memory have edited out.

As it stands, that information is lost. Therefore, that you are convinced
I fully understand, and I am not telling you what happened. You were
the only one of us that were a witness to the event. I don't have a leg
to stand on if I were attempting to prove your story false.

However, due the the reasons already stated, these exact same things
also mean that it is absurd to expect your story to convince me.

If something as weird happened to me, I very likely would be as freaked
out and impressed as the next guy, but I would not expect anyone to
believe my interpretation of the event UNLESS I had evidence to back it
up.

ANYWAY, I'M DONE HERE.

Can't say that I blame you.I can imagine it must be extremly frustrating
to be faced with the brute fact of people shrugging of an event that
so impressed you. It must seem heartless and condesending.

But what am I suppose to do when so many times in the past when I
HAVE investigated such claims, they turn up having non-magical causes
that were overlooked at the time?

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Is rejecting supernatural explanations close-minded?

by inkling in

jw
friends

here is an excellent video regarding the accusation that skeptics are.

"close-minded" to the supernatural and to woo-based explanations .

if you have ever been on either side of one of these conversations, .

inkling

inkling,
I have not been 'high' in 30 years.
I am NOT joking.

My apologies. I was not implying that you WERE, just that it was such a bizare story with little
context that sounded almost satirically random.

My reply is the same as the excellent wording in the video:

"Although it's quite reasonable to describe an experience and say YOU can't explain it,
telling your audience THEY can't explain it is senseless, because your audience has no
independent access to the events you describe, nor any way of investigating which details
you may have missed or edited out"

This is conversation quite frustrating to me, becuase your reply to the video (of an anecdotal
"ghost story" type memory of a perception of an event) is exactly the sort of thing that would
prompt me to urge someone to view the video in the first place.

With all due respect, I think somthing is failing to sink in.

I agree with Kanootcha, and recomend THIS video, which is an exact response to that type of claim:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPqerbz8KDc

If have honestly watched these two videos, and still don't understand even slightly why Skeptics
are not impressed into belief by your story and its ilk, I don't see that this conversation has anywhere
productive to go.

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