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  Watch "Dr. Phil" on Wednesday

  by JimmyPage in

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  subject of the show: "is this a cult?".

  i hope they do a good job, my wife watches him every day.. hope steve hassan is a guest..

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  dogisgod

  Although they "appear" to be more mainstream today they are not. You can pour honey on shit but it's still shit.
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  Watch "Dr. Phil" on Wednesday

  by JimmyPage in

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  subject of the show: "is this a cult?".

  i hope they do a good job, my wife watches him every day.. hope steve hassan is a guest..

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  Dr Phil is like Caesar The Dog Whisperer. As a qualified dog trainer it alarmsme that Caesar gets away with his show when the difficult situations with dogs takes weeks and months to accomplish with people willing to stay focused on their goals andwith great love for their animals. Most of Dr Phil is just "common sense". Both shows are dangerous because they are entertainment pretending to be "fix it" shows.
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  My Trip to the Unitarian Universal Church

  by NewChapter in

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  so, pretty much i no longer care to believe in a god.

  but, either because of my 20 years in a jw daze, or because humans just desire this, i miss the community.

  so, i went to a unitarian church this morning.

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  dogisgod

  I've been going to the Unitarian Universalist Church for about 2 yrs. My pastor "Reverand James" likes to be called "James". His religious education encompases so much that I am REALLY impressed. I am not easily impressed. I am also impressed with the people and children attending. The main theme is about community be it our immediate area or international. They take from all religious creeds, judge no one and are unconditional in their exceptance of all who attend. Classes are offered that encompass just about anything you can think of. I love it there. I think every congregation has it's own flavor but I like where I go. What ever you believe you are welcome.
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  Do You Ever Think Of "God"?

  by minimus in

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  even those that no longer believe in "god", i wonder, do you ever ever think of god, believing possibly he may exist?.

  for those that do believe in god, do you feel you have more of a relationship than when you were a witness?.

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  There is probably not a day that goes by that I don't think about "God". I have chosen to believe that there is a "collective conscienceness" but I have no proof. Neither does anyone else have proof of what they have "chosen to believe". Science says that energy never dies. I can accept that. So our "energy" moves on.

  Someone "invents" something. Then in history you find that several people in far different places had the same idea. Whoever published or patented it first was given credit. Were they all tapping into "collective you-know-what"?

  As far as I can read about, "God" is a manmade concept that has be conveniently remolded to some patriarchial preferance...christian or other...they are at their base pretty much the same. Power and money at others expense.
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  seperating anger for WT from my mom

  by dogisgod in

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  i posted this earlier under the bitterness post.

  how do i seperate the anger i have being raised in the borg from my mother who forced it down my throat even after i left.

  she justwouldn't leave it alone.

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  dogisgod

  Both my brothers were older. One 10yrs older and the other 6yrs older. My oldest brother molested me starting when I was 4. My other brother was diagnosed as a sociopath and was in and out of prison including 51/2 yrs for beating a young guy to death with a hammer. He was merciless in tormenting me and my mom always said, "what did you do to make him mad". My mom said my oldest brother wasn't "molesting" me, he was just "sexually experimenting". My other brother really was my mom's favorite. When he murdered that kid my mom said "well, that kid was a smart mouth". When this brother got out of prison he was found 3 days later in a vacant lot. He died of an overdose of cocain injection. Mother wouldn't believe it unless I went down to see him. It was really hard as the autopsy people had not even hosed him off. I never told my mom that he ODd I told her it was a heart attack. She lived for him and died 3 mos after him. My older brother lived in front of me for decades and we never discussed what happened. He dropped dead in October without a Will and so I'm going thru the legal system as my property is tied with his. My dad was my island of sanity. He died 15 yrs ago...natural causes. My mother nagged him out of everything he loved. The only thing she let him do was have a garden and it was magnificent. When he died she had me rototill the garden and plant grass. The day after he died I went to see if she was alright. Shewas cleaning house and had a headband on. She never wore a headband. It turned out that she had cut the waistband off my dad's underware after he died so as not to waste the waistband. My dad tried to get her out of the borg, even moving us to Baudette, Minnesota but she found them (very few) there. Other than suffering from "ophan envy" I tried to talk/reason with her but I might as well have hammered myself to death. It is hard to think of her as a "victim" since she was such a hard case. Any time I wanted to go somewhere or do something she would say "no, followed by some scripture". So she had "issues" but the WT really screwed every aspect of our lives. Everyone is dead now. I am the only one left and trying to extracate myself from all the shit. A "brother" has been visiting me and I told him I would never set foot in a KH again in my life. He still comes back but I just don't answer. I am very kind, empathetic, hysterically funny, loyal person but the past roots run so deep that I can't get out from it's shadow. I look at young women and think, " never underestimate your capability of fucking up your kids". I think I would have been a great mom but I didn't have kids. I didn't want to take that chance.
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  seperating anger for WT from my mom

  by dogisgod in

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  i posted this earlier under the bitterness post.

  how do i seperate the anger i have being raised in the borg from my mother who forced it down my throat even after i left.

  she justwouldn't leave it alone.

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  dogisgod

  I posted this earlier under the bitterness post.

  How do I seperate the anger I have being raised in the borg from my mother who forced it down my throat even after I left. She justwouldn't leave it alone. She died (now she knows "the secret" ie what comes after death) I really loved my mom. She was so controlling that she would not drive an automatic as she didn't have as much control. She didnt force things on my 2 brothers but she sure did on me and I want to just remember her and what good qualities she had but my memory of her is blanketed by the blackness of the society. Does anyone know how to do this. My counselor told me to try to see her as a victim as well. That's hard because she was not one to mess with. When I let myself think of her I just start crying...she's been gone two years.
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  so oompa got df'd this week...

  by oompa in

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  no call to invite me to a committee meeting...no notification of deciding i should be df'd....no telling my jw wife of the announcement...not a chance to appeal what i did not even know what was going on...my mini-serve son is devasted....he even researched it....told me to go to page 153-154 of the od book...never heard of it but it is a green hardback given to all who are to be baptized.

  wow...the elders broke every rule in this book as to my case.... i have no respect for these men that can take away your jw family without even telling you they are going to.

  my jw son has now begged me to meet with my committee...even though there is prob zero chance they can reverse the decision...that chance is from when they let you know...and you have to appeal by letter within 7 days (i cant make this stuff up!!

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  if you don't want to be dfd then have a lawyer write to the society on your behalf. cite the wt as much as possible. You did nothing. Sounds like the local elders were looking for a chance and blindsided you when you were in the hosp. I must say your wife wasn't much help.

  I'm one of the "walking dead" and it's better than being "in" .

  I hope you get better fast. Bike crashes are so dangerous.
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  My wife wants to plan an anniversary party but we have different social circles...

  by garyneal in

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  perhaps some of you who are unbelieving spouses married to witnesses have had to deal with this at one point of another.

  this is the first time for me and my wife and it has her concerned.

  my wife wants to plan an anniversary party for us and she wants to invite everyone that she and i know.

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  dogisgod

  Have two parties.
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  Disfellowshiped ARE REQUIRED to sit in the library!

  by brotherdan in

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  my mother-in-law is making leaps and bounds in her progress to get out of the watchtower.

  for those of you that don't know, she is df'd but has been working on "coming back".

  recently i've been able to exchange emails about the dangers of the organization and share jesus with her.

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  dogisgod

  My cong dsf a very prominant brother. He was a very tall, well built man and good looking in a manly kind of way. For a whole year he would come to the meetings and stand at the back of the hall behind the seats holding his bible. It was the elephant in the room. He was later reinstated. I think they were afraid of him. He had a photo type memory but I guess he wasn't smart enogh to get out. I really liked him and his family. He has died now but I still remember him fondly. He was not going to be shamed and he wasn't.
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  The struggle to avoid being bitter

  by crazycate in

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  i dont want to be bitter.

  but i now understand why some or many ex-jws are bitter.

  i remember when i was an active zealous jw thinking, if someone wants to leave, go ahead and leave.

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  dogisgod

  What is the difference between "bitter" and "anger"? My mom jumped into the borg when I was 8 mos old. I was fully and totally indoctrinated. I left at 36yrs. I still believed for quite a while and then when I read Franze's book I was totally blown away and then did more research. I want to separate the anger towards the society from the anger against my mom. We went round and round this even when I begged to NOT discuss it. She was "faithful" till the end but when she died that was it. She couldn't drive at night so they gave her a phone thing that she could listen to the meetings at home. The problem is that she wasn't getting their association. It was easier to give her that than pick up an old lady for the meetings. I told her I would take her and even sit with her but I'd be reading a book. (I really would have done that even though I never wanted to step into that place) She felt it was too disrepectful (which it was to the WT but was not for her). My brother and I always took her out and did for her but she missed "her congregation".

  I am trying to reestablish connections with my relatives which is not entirely successful. I blame both her and the WT for cutting us off from our family. So how do I just separate my mom whom I really, really loved and that irresponsible, despicable group of men who take everything that has meaning from out lives?