Woah there white dove, you're mixing up two vastly different time scales. The plates have been drifting ever since the earth formed a crust. Scientists talk of "geological time" because it takes millions and millions of years for these processes to take place.
Scientists theorize that the formation and breakup of supercontinents is a cyclical event that has happened many times throughout the earth's 4.6 billion-year history. The last supercontinent, Pangea, began drifting apart approximately 250 million years ago during the Mesozoic era, which is long before modern humans.
No form of hominid remains have ever been found in the Americas aside from modern humans. The jury is still out as to when or how the first humans arrived in North America but it's generally agreed that they arrived at the end of the last ice age either by boat (which is hinted at by the Cape Verde site) or along the ice-free coasts which are now submerged because of the subsequent rise in sea levels. There is also the Bering Straight land bridge theory, that suggests ice-age hunters followed their prey through a corridor in the continental ice from Asia into America.
One interesting paleo-archaeological discovery is that primates had evolved by the time South America separated from Africa and these two isolated groups have been evolving separately from each other ever since. That is why all "new world" primates have a unique dentition pattern that is found in no other "old world" primate.
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Those Jews were some fast travellers!!!
by oompa ini'm sure the no way no flood crowd will appreciate this too.
so many things just don't add up.
and when is the last time fds wt did a major study to check on accuracy of carbon dating anyway???...............................oompa.
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Those Jews were some fast travellers!!!
by oompa ini'm sure the no way no flood crowd will appreciate this too.
so many things just don't add up.
and when is the last time fds wt did a major study to check on accuracy of carbon dating anyway???...............................oompa.
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If someone has access to the watchtower CD-ROM, could you look up the last reference dealing with carbon dating and tell us when it was?
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Anyone a listener of Alex Jones? ..also Loose Change Final Cut is out!
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LMAO, totally not the response I was expecting. Did you even visit the site?
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Anyone a listener of Alex Jones? ..also Loose Change Final Cut is out!
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Loose Change is so passé, Unfastened Coins is where it's at!
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You will see Old age
by KW13 ini told mum yesterday that i'd carry on my so called 'anti jw' speak when she is an old lady of 80 years old.
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her words "i dont think this system will last that long".. i have a long time to wait but i shall be proven right!.
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The Witnesses are like a dog chasing its tail. It's ALWAYS gonna be just around the corner, you just have to hang on a little bit more and focus on how good its gonna feel when you arrive.
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Those Jews were some fast travellers!!!
by oompa ini'm sure the no way no flood crowd will appreciate this too.
so many things just don't add up.
and when is the last time fds wt did a major study to check on accuracy of carbon dating anyway???...............................oompa.
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Good find, and in regards to your question you might notice that the Watchtower has scrupulously avoided making any declarations like they used to about carbon dating.
The reason is that carbon dating isn't the sole tool that scientists use to calculate age. There's an alphabet soup of different radiometric isotope dating methods available plus fission-track dating, tree-ring chronology, mud varve layers, ice cores and speleothem (stalagmite, stalactite) cores.
When several of these methods all independently indicate a point in time, it's fair to say that it is accurate. Carbon dating just happens to be one of the more commonly used because it has been verified against tree-ring chronology up to 9,000 years old and found to be accurate up to its farthest range of 40,000 radiocarbon years. Older organic material than that does not have sufficient C14 so different methods are used.
If you want even more bible-challenging Meso-American archaeological discovery look up Cape Verde, Chile. That site is estimated to be around 15,000 years old and has preserved tent-houses covered in mammoth hide and a perfectly preserved footprint of a human child.
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You will see Old age
by KW13 ini told mum yesterday that i'd carry on my so called 'anti jw' speak when she is an old lady of 80 years old.
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her words "i dont think this system will last that long".. i have a long time to wait but i shall be proven right!.
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Yep. I remember starting kindergarten and asking my mom what high school was like and she said "You probably won't have to worry about that, the new system will be here by then."
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need good information about ice drillings
by the_end_of_eternity ini am in this discussion with an elderm and it is all about the age of the polar caps, coral reefs etc.
for abvious reasons this is important discussion.. anyway, what is good scientific information proving (or priving not) the age is more then a few 1000 years old.... i know there have been some drillings done etc.
most siytes just give this as a fact, which i do not doubt so much, but of course he wants more prove.. same with the age of the coral islands (atols).. thanks all.. end_of_eternity.
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JCanon, you're missing a very important piece of information there. The fossilized tropical plant life around the polar circle is not evidence of a catastrophic flood, it's from when those parts of the continental plates were situated near the equator.
The continental plates are constantly drifting. If you notice on a world map the shape of South America dovetails perfectly with the West coast of Africa. There are areas in Newfoundland with rocks that match perfectly with rocks in Scotland, like a piece of paper that was torn in two, showing where that particular break in the continental shelf occurred.
At one time Greenland had a tropical climate because it WAS in the tropics. One school of thought holds that the continents drift and collide back and forth over the eons, sometimes switching the direction of their movement. Evidence of this can be found in the Appalachian cordillera, a series of fold mountains thrust up over eons while the North American continent drifted East, only to erode to their current heights as the continent drifted West and pushed up the Western Cordillera (Rockies, Sierra Nevadas). Given enough time, the Rockies will erode to a state similar to the Appalachians today.
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Babies get shunned
by Crooked Lumpy Vessel inmy sister was recently disfellowshipped and she told me that she was eating in a restaurant yesterday when the elder that disfellowshipped her was seated at the table next to her.
of course they would not breathe a word to her.
but her son (4 years old) had kept saying hello over and over to the elder and his wife and they both refused to acknowledge him, smile of even say hello back.
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Just be thankful you're not a baby born to the wrong ethnic group in Old Testament days, or you would have been dashed against the rocks or worse torn out of your pregnant mother's belly under god's orders.
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WHAT IS THE NEW GENERATION CHANGE?
by wannaexit ini've been hearing much about the new generation change?
what is it?.
i heard that something was revealed at the annual meeting.. wanna.
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Congrats on your first steps Jeff, but you've just stepped into the rabbit hole and you have no idea how far down you'll go.
My progression went something like:
- I believe that the Watchtower has the truth, and I'll just wait for them to fix what's obviously wrong.
- I doubt the Watchtower has the truth, but I still believe the Bible is the word of God
- I believe the Bible is the word of God, but why are there so many passages at odds with science? And why is god so murderous?
- I believe the book of Genesis is allegory
- I don't believe the bible is divinely inspired
- I don't believe there is a god actively involved in human affairs
- I am an atheist, if there is a god I'll chat with him after I'm dead.
This doesn't mean that I'm opposed to others' views on faith, but history seems to show that people arguing over faith (specifically whose is superior) tend to end up slaughtering each other.
I still think the bible (at least portions of it) contains very valuable life lessons, but so does the Qu'ran (parts of it, obviously), the teachings of Buddha and modern science among countless others.
I wish you the best on your journey.