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  Who is the Angel of the Lord?

  by MrBusyShortz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the jehovah's witnesses claim that jesus christ is michael the archangel.

  they, the jehovah's witnesses, use 1 thessalonians 4:16, among many others, as a proof text for their claim.

  for question #3) what does angel mean in this passage of scripture, if this angel is not a created angel?

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  the Angel which redeemed me from all evil is no created angel but God himself fulfilling the duties given to Him as a messenger.

  Ms. Plum-->given to Him by whom

  Very good question, Ms. Plum! The "Angel which redeemed me from all evil" is the Deputy of God who receives his duties from His Father, who is God as well.

  Remember, The "Angel which redeemed me from all evil" = The "Angel of the Lord" = The preincarnate Christ = John 1:1a = John 1:1c. And, We can clearly see that this "Angel of the Lord" is with His Father in the Old Testament, verifying John 1:1b.

  Since the "Angel of the Lord appeared many times in the Old Testament in human form, We can clearly see that the same "Angel of the Lord" became flesh in John 1:14.

  John 1:14 clearly identifies this "Angel of the Lord" as God in human flesh. In the Old Testament, those who spoke with this "Angel of the Lord" also Identified Him as God.

  Thanks for the question, and God bless you!
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  Who is the Angel of the Lord?

  by MrBusyShortz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the jehovah's witnesses claim that jesus christ is michael the archangel.

  they, the jehovah's witnesses, use 1 thessalonians 4:16, among many others, as a proof text for their claim.

  for question #3) what does angel mean in this passage of scripture, if this angel is not a created angel?

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  Quantum-->How can people be so deceived...The Angel of The Lord...>>

  Be so deceived about what?

  Quantum-->Does anyone know if Moses or Abraham, Noah or Jacob knew who "The Angel of The Lord " was or is? Or were they so primative and stupid with no education....children almost...>>

  Yes, Quantum, The Bible is very clear that Moses or Abraham, Noah or Jacob knew precisely who the Angel of the Lord is/was! And, No, They were not so primitive and stupid, either.

  Quantum-->If you can determine what they knew about the person or person's revelating to them then you may begin to understand who GOD really is.>>

  Very good observation on your part, Quantum! When you study the Bible, Then You would know who God really is, too, in my humble opinion! But, You have to study the Bible by itself, with no supporting material.

  Quantum-->Did any of them know who Jesus Christ was? What was there understaning of the animal sacrifices they were commanded to do. Were they kept so in the dark that who ever was giving them their revelations never revealed to them the mystery of this or the reason? What kind of ignoramouses has modern Christiandom spawned? (who really loves ya baby?)>>

  I could ask you the same question, Quantum, in regards to "ingnoramouses"! It seems to me right now, That you are totally clueless about what the Nation of Isreal knew about God. How much study have you invested in the Holy Torah?

  Quantum-->Will the real Jehovah [yhwh} stand. ...here I AM!>>

  Not only has He stood, but He died on the cross for you so that you could have salvation when you trust and believe in Him as your Lord and Saviour!
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  Who is the Angel of the Lord?

  by MrBusyShortz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the jehovah's witnesses claim that jesus christ is michael the archangel.

  they, the jehovah's witnesses, use 1 thessalonians 4:16, among many others, as a proof text for their claim.

  for question #3) what does angel mean in this passage of scripture, if this angel is not a created angel?

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  Shari-->Yes, plenty of nice people here. That includes you now I'm glad you decided to post here. You have so much to offer.>>

  You are too kind with your words, Shari. However, I really do appreciate what you have said though, Friend.

  Shari-->Tell Saucey I said hello.>>

  Ok, I just did. I hollered what you said to her in the other room! LOL
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  Who is the Angel of the Lord?

  by MrBusyShortz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the jehovah's witnesses claim that jesus christ is michael the archangel.

  they, the jehovah's witnesses, use 1 thessalonians 4:16, among many others, as a proof text for their claim.

  for question #3) what does angel mean in this passage of scripture, if this angel is not a created angel?

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  Lilacs-->Hi MrBusyShorts!!! It's me, Luv2Shari, from Paltalk. Glad to see you found your way here to the forum.

  Has Saucey joined also?

  Lilacs>>

  Hey Friend! Good to see you again! How things going? And yes, I finally made it here. LOL She told me that you posted here. Yes I think she has too. Saucey sent me a link on the puter. This is a great message forum. Lots of nice people!

  MrBusy
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  Religion or Family???

  by Overseer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  which is more important-religion or family?.

  which would you choose if you had to?

  if a family member was going to be killed if you carried on 'participating' in the religion-what would you do?.

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  Heaven-->Mr. Busy

  I just grabbed my grandmothers bible and read the scriptures you suggested. Thanks so much. (Crying now) wish I wasnt so emotional ya' know?....I left it open to that page. Thank you again.>>

  I am blessed that those scriptures have blessed you! God bless you and your family!

  MrBusy
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  A NEW SIGN OUT FRONT AT BETHEL!

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think it's time bethel got a new sign out front, one that really speaks volumes and is far more suitable to their "read god's word the bible daily.

  i was thinking: .

  oh what a web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!

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  Bug Paradise-->Ha ha @Shortzeeee <Big toothy Grin>

  How about a real one ...

  "Have you Hugged your Watchtower today?">>

  Not bad Bugparadise! I must say that you are quite interesting? (referring to your pic) You are quite interesting indeed. Your smile is absolutely (how should I say) ...um.. wonderful! God bless!

  MrBusy
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  Religion or Family???

  by Overseer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  which is more important-religion or family?.

  which would you choose if you had to?

  if a family member was going to be killed if you carried on 'participating' in the religion-what would you do?.

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  Reborn-->While I personally choose family over religion, the rest of my immediate relatives choose the latter.

  You see I disassociated myself from the JW religion after realizing it was a false prophet and deceitful organization.

  Instead of accepting me for the person I am, my family chose instead to shun me because I had rejected their religion.

  Funny the double standard that is present, because they expect me to respect their religion and stance and want me to even be open-minded enough to listen to their never ending preaching, while they refuse to lend a listening ear to FACTS that show the WTBTS to be false.

  There are thousands of cases just like mine.

  Individuals who have lost fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, sons, daughters.. ALL to the Watchtower CULT.

  My prayers are with you, and a day will come when they will pay for their wicked practices.>>

  I have never been a Jehovah's Witness, Reborn, but this shunning/disfellowshipping just blows me away. Doesn't the Watchtower realize how much pain they cause for family members who are shunned or even disfellowshipped? I really wonder if they do realize this.

  Thanks for sharing! My Prayers are will all of those who are suffering this situation. God bless all of you!

  MrBusy
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  Religion or Family???

  by Overseer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  which is more important-religion or family?.

  which would you choose if you had to?

  if a family member was going to be killed if you carried on 'participating' in the religion-what would you do?.

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  Heaven-->Mr. Busy,

  Thank you. That was very kind of you to say.>>

  You are very welcome!

  Heaven-->My family lives & breaths the W.T.S. Its their entire existance basically. I guess I will find out soon enough. Im not sitting on the fence with them anymore. I just do not agree with their beliefs and never will.

  Thanks again.>>

  I am truly sorry that this situation has occurred with you and your family. However, May I give you a word of encouragement? I would suggest, in your leisure, that you sit down and read Psalm 27:1-5. Really take the time to focus on those verses and ponder them. I have found that these verses are extremely uplifting when I find myself in stressful situations. God Bless you!

  MrBusy!
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  Who is the Angel of the Lord?

  by MrBusyShortz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the jehovah's witnesses claim that jesus christ is michael the archangel.

  they, the jehovah's witnesses, use 1 thessalonians 4:16, among many others, as a proof text for their claim.

  for question #3) what does angel mean in this passage of scripture, if this angel is not a created angel?

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  gsx-->Michael the Archangel is Satan? Wasn't that the theme of Prophecy 2 with Christopher Walken? Perhaps Russell was ahead of his time. Using WTS logic I will prove who Jesus is. Jesus is now thought to be the King in Heaven. Elvis Presley was known as the King. Thus, when Elvis died Jesus/Elvis took his rightful place as King in heaven. To further miracles of faith Elvis/Jesus has revealed himself to white trash all over this great country hence all of the Elvis sightings. As for who is the angel of the Lord/Elvis, that would be Buddy Holly. Please send donations to my home address. I could tell you more but since Miss Cleo got shut down my info has been sparce.>>

  ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too Funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  A NEW SIGN OUT FRONT AT BETHEL!

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think it's time bethel got a new sign out front, one that really speaks volumes and is far more suitable to their "read god's word the bible daily.

  i was thinking: .

  oh what a web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!

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  Mary-->Anyone else got any ideas as to what you'd like to see posted outside Bethel these days?

  BugsParadise-->How about:

  "Grab a Watchtower and Read our BuyBull everyday!"

  or

  "Have you blamed Christendom Today?">>

  What you have suggested is very good, in my opinion. God bless!