it is reasonable to expect more accounts of violence and deranged.
behavior among witnesses in coming years.. why?
to the watchtower leadership, the organization appears little.
bttt for "happy man", with bonus questions.
What kind of a sick and twisted belief system does it take to convince young, healthy persons living in a free, secure and rich area of the world to believe that the majority of mankind must die soon?
How much painful mental and emotional acrobatics does it take to smile to a stranger while telling him he's going to die soon?
How is that NOT the perfect breeding ground for depression?
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i must say when i read this side for a few month, it is something i dont understand, why is evry thing who smal it is blowing upp and putt out here as a bigg sinn.
if we compare what is important, who was killing ech other inn 2 wordwar, yes, inn the hart of christianity,.
who was a part of all killing inn ruwanda and former yougoslavia, yes, religion as catolic, musslim, grrek otodox and some more, have a very bigg responsiality, million of peopel was killd inn this mess, priests was blessing on both sides.. wat the bilbel sais is clear, dont bee like kain who killd his brother, and you must love even your animy,.
i can only find one religion who was saying no to all this, can you qess who.
Man, I've said it before, Metatron said it, and I'll repeat it: JWs are NOT unique in their opposition to war. If you don't know that, you're just as clueless as most JWs are about other religions. Actually, as religions go, there is hardly anything unique about Dubland.
f.
p.s.: This is an honest question: are you unable to write normally, or do you just don't give a damn about spelling? English isn't my first language either, but I see no reason to write messages that resemble line noise a whole lot more than the "pure language" supposedly spoken by JWs.
it is reasonable to expect more accounts of violence and deranged.
behavior among witnesses in coming years.. why?
to the watchtower leadership, the organization appears little.
Am I the only one noticing Happy Man's 'accent'?
No, I find it a bit strange, too.
Giving you the benefit of doubt for a minute, Happy Man, and assuming that you're really from Sweden, here's a true story. About two years ago, I met a young Swedish JW girl (man, was _she_ pretty - hardly 20 years old, long brunette hair, eyes like stars, and flirting like crazy). I knew she was a JW and casually asked her some questions about religion. The last lines of our conversation went something like this:
F: "So you really think that anyone who doesn't believe 100% what JWs believe will die a gruesome death soon?!"
JW (with a friendly smile): "Errr, no, no...no..."
(pause)
JW (with the same friendly smile): "...not a gruesome death, we don't know how it will happen."
F (perplexed): "Uh...huh."
Another Scandinavian JW in her mid-twenties told me that she didn't think people would die out on the streets, get swallowed up by cracks in the earth and eaten by birds. She speculated they would simply disappear without feeling any pain. Nice, huh? I felt so much better after that.
As far as I know, both are still very much "in", having married faithful MSs in the meantime.
So much for the sometimes heard opinion that today's JWs are less judgmental, or that European JWs tend to be less "radical" than those in the USA.
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forgive me if this has been covered before but i only drop in occasionally.. i seem to remember some months ago that a poster talked about the planned relocation of the british branch to milton keenes.
i think he said that the move had been scrapped because of the lack of growth in britain?
i also believe that this decision had been made before the sept 11th attacks.
Of course, as you will appreciate, "the scene of the world" has changed dramatically since then. (1 Cor. 7:31)
Wow. I mean, can they say this without blushing? WTF does the "changed scene of the world" have to do with their expansion plans in Britain? And, if I may humbly ask God's sole channel of communication on Earth: shouldn't you have expected that "changed scene", considering that we're supposed to be in the last days with the big A just around the corner?
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p.s.: reminds me of this Onion article: http://www.theonion.com/onion3746/what_is_sexy.html
the time is now!
talk to jehovah's witnesses.
for decades, the watch tower has been saying.... * be no part of the world.
HM, your questions may be directed at Randy, but let me answer anyway.
I can find onkly one organiserad religion who say now too this madness, can you quess the name.Hmmm. The Mormons? The Mennonites? Quakers? You ever heard of these?
peropel who not are nationalistics, who are brothers and sisters dont mader if they are jude or arab, or white or blacke, or red.Do I have to be in any form of "organised religion", or any organisation at all, to be a good person? Do you really think only JWs are anti-nationalistic and opposed to wars? Have you noticed that the board participants have _very_ different opinions on many topics, including "patriotism", war, and ice cream flavours?
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p.s.: Please try to make your messages readable, in your own interest. A spellchecker helps a lot.
not sure if this has been mentioned here before, but all those who enjoy a good laugh once in a while can rejoice: wol died for your sins, but purelanguage-dot-net will reign forever!.
http://www.purelanguage.net/forums/index.php.
please note:.
I thought it was interesting that it brought out how easy it is to be "unwittingly exposed" to apostate material even when doing research on our beliefs.
Ah, from the mouths of babes...we all know that pretty much everything written by the WTS more than 30, 40 years ago would be considered "apostate" today!
That's not something I had previously thought about....because previously, I had been thinking about floss. And shoes. I think a lot about shoes. But floss is also good. I have very good teeth. Sometimes I also think about Jehovah, but that's so deep my head starts to hurt just after a minute or so. Thinking about shoes doesn't hurt. Floss doesn't hurt either, if you use it correctly. I like the waxed, mint-flavoured kind. What's your favourite floss?
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not sure if this has been mentioned here before, but all those who enjoy a good laugh once in a while can rejoice: wol died for your sins, but purelanguage-dot-net will reign forever!.
http://www.purelanguage.net/forums/index.php.
please note:.
Not sure if this has been mentioned here before, but all those who enjoy a good laugh once in a while can rejoice: WOL died for your sins, but PureLanguage-dot-net will reign forever!
http://www.purelanguage.net/forums/index.php
Please note:
PLNet is operated by and for true Christians. We have no tolerance for apostasy and unclean or obscene speech. (Eph 5:3,4; 2 Tim 2:16-18)I'm waiting for the "report this brother to an elder" button attached to every JW at birth ;-)...
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as 12 european countries, including the dominant german and french communities, prepare for the introduction of the euro, great britain stands pretty well alone in witholding the sacrifice of it's currency.. january 1, 2002, sees the complete ending of the mark, franc, escudo, peseta, drachma and other currencies as most of europe chooses to totally adopt the new monetary system, the euro.. britain has come in for a welter of criticism for holding back from joining the rest of europe until it deems that the time is right.. recent figures now show that britain has the highest gdp in europe, trailing only behind the usa and japan worldwide.
the foretold recession is also reckoned to miss britain, a growth of 2 - 3% holding up the economy.. a recent survey shows that the british now spend almost 21% of their income on leisure activities, whereas the rest of europe manage an average of about 12%.. is this a good time to be british?
maybe so, if recession hammers into the us and japan it could well be the best country in the world to live in once more.. englishman.. bring on the dancing girls!
Germany: I have often visited Germany, their system is entirely different to the UK. Often, Father, son, daughter, grandchildren etc, become part owners of the same property ...
I have a suspicion that this is already reflected in the much lower home ownership percentage of Germany (around 40%, not 70%). Though there's always reason to be cautious with statistics, I'd be very surprised if the people compiling these numbers wouldn't factor in such differences.
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why jehovah's witnesses are the "happiest people on earth".
thus spake homer simpson:.
"those germans!!
Nice post, Scully. It's interesting that some languages have words that fit _exactly_ what you want to describe, and you can't really translate them (such as the French "esprit" or the German adverb "halt"). Which is why I really admire good translators.
They called it Schadenfreude, which literally means shameful joy.No, shameful joy isn't really a literal translation. Schaden means damage, Freude means joy. The word doesn't contain a value judgement like "shameful".
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as 12 european countries, including the dominant german and french communities, prepare for the introduction of the euro, great britain stands pretty well alone in witholding the sacrifice of it's currency.. january 1, 2002, sees the complete ending of the mark, franc, escudo, peseta, drachma and other currencies as most of europe chooses to totally adopt the new monetary system, the euro.. britain has come in for a welter of criticism for holding back from joining the rest of europe until it deems that the time is right.. recent figures now show that britain has the highest gdp in europe, trailing only behind the usa and japan worldwide.
the foretold recession is also reckoned to miss britain, a growth of 2 - 3% holding up the economy.. a recent survey shows that the british now spend almost 21% of their income on leisure activities, whereas the rest of europe manage an average of about 12%.. is this a good time to be british?
maybe so, if recession hammers into the us and japan it could well be the best country in the world to live in once more.. englishman.. bring on the dancing girls!
Essentially, a BS pays interest to its investors whilst charging interest to it's borrowers. The interest rate is linked to the bank rate, so that, theoretically, a lender will always make some interest from the borrower.
Thanks for the link, Eman. But as I understand it, the difference between bank and building society is quite exactly nil from the viewpoint of national economy.
BTW, I have tried to get some data on home ownership in Europe by way of Google. Unfortunately, my trusty OECD CDROM at home doesn't include that. According to a recent Guardian article, Britain doesn't seem to have such a top position in home ownership (which surprised me):
Low interest rates, as well as huge demand from foreign and domestic buyers, have led property prices in Spain and Portugal to surge over the past four to five years. These countries have a strong tradition of home ownership - 80% of Spanish homes are owner-occupied... Italy, like other southern European countries, has a high level of owner occupancy - around 70%.Source: http://money.guardian.co.uk/theeuroandyou/story/0,11453,623703,00.html
According to a very interesting paper (or actually slideshow presentation) I found in that search,
- mortgage debt was at 60% of GDP in 1994, which is very high compared to the rest of Europe. As you say, housing seems to play a very important role in Britain.
- about 80% of outstanding personal debt in the UK was at floating rates in 1996, which is also very high. This would appear to confirm my suggestion that rising interest rates will become a problem for the "deficit spenders" quite soon (assuming that interest rates will go up within the next year).
Source: Huw Pill, Monetary policy in three currency areas ( http://www.people.hbs.edu/hpill/JCHS.pdf)
The graphs are really quite interesting. Britain has somewhat high levels of home ownership, but not _very_ high compared to other countries. If you take France for comparison, there isn't much difference. However, the reliance on floating-rate mortgages is drastically higher in Britain than anywhere else (again, look at France!). I wonder why?
f., who can't help being fascinated by macroeconomics, even though most people think that's boring :-)
