Posts by Focus

Since the Watchtower has specifically designated material critical of itself as spiritually-constituting "pornography" (The Watchtower, March 15, 1986, p13-15) and gangrene, and has repeatedly cast stones at those who have seen through their evil, greedy, deceitful, arrogant, happiness-destroying magazine-selling cult and MLM scam, the following response is, on balance, rather too mild:

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("Deadly accurate with stones" Class)

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Major reversal for the Watchtower imminent - Countdown: only 5 left.

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focus.

("armageddon" class).

Focus

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Does anyone remember these posters? (probably from H2O days)

by IronGland in

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anon_from_sudamerica, edweirdo, ethelred, vincent, independentthinker, kerensa?

Focus

Since this is a BB for people who (once?) believe in idiocy such as resurrection, it is fitting this be resurrected. I am currently immersed in Russell, and without light relief I might contract Acute Russellitis, an irreversible form of "brain fever" about which that great man wrote. Indeed, there is little about which that great man did not write.

troucul:

Whatever happened to FREDHALL?

M Seeker4:

I soooo remember Fred Hall. Not nearly as bad as some think...

Indeed, many of him were not. He pre-existed on Usenet. Another him or hims is still there. He, like myself, were legion. However, there certainly was at leasrt one unFocused, WTS-oriented Fred Hall too, You Know.

VM44:

who in the old H2O days always said "WACK"? and what did he mean by that

He meant to punish those who standards had fallen below the congregational norm. Kinda obvious, right? Some Prominent Bethelite Brothers have to take on the onerous duties of maintaining cleanliness in the Hall and - the job has to be done...

perhaps it was WHACK instead of WACK....now I have to try to remember who it was.

I was clearly far too sparing with the WHACKs...

SixofNine:

Focus was the "wack"-er.
I'd still love to know what his story is. His is the only online personality I've come across that I would consider truly mysterious.

Indeed, that crittransgressor was the "WHACK!!"er. But as to the rest... uh-uh, SixofNIne... as Acts 7:33 posted millennia ago:

Then the Lord said to him, 'Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.

(NIV)

http://www.laborlawtalk.com/archive/index.php/t-108662.html

Osarsif is in possession of so many of the archived clues but I trust he will be either too faithful, discreet or uninterested a slave as to unwisely seek to disentangle that which gOD clearly did not intend to be rent apart.

Let this be Tabernacle Notice for the googlebot that the following really were odious villains:

One Brow (think you turning atheist is a let-off? Oh no, Eric, you _ogue of no distinction, it is not. Down to the tenth generation it shall be...)

janey *etafile2

Mean Mister Mustard

You Know

yadirf (#2)

The day of retribution draweth nigh... the hand of Jabbers will be raised against Pharaoh.

richmac has been reprieved. Mercy should always temper justice.

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Focus

("Who will clean my toilets in Paradise Earth: Antonio L. Santana" Class)

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At RC, Splane says 1000+ new KH's needed, last year only "60" new one's built.

by oppostate in

so there are now regular, full time "construction servants" and their help is much needed along with regional rbc volunteers, who better get working because over a thousand kh's are needed and last year only sixty were built by the u.s. branch.

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splane also said that just with the new baptized this weekend all over the u.s. we had one whone new circuit, so we better put more work into building needed kingdom halls..

Focus

They are selling the KHs for two reasons-

1) Cheaper to run the scam mainly online now.

2) Real estate is highly illiquid - they are terrified of the avalanche of lawsuits to come.

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("Lawsuits" Class)

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I got my mother to say animals evolved !

by cookiemaster in

i wanted to share with you guys the argument i had today with my mother.

i've been away last week in a far away city for my college exams.

i've been staying at a friend, a jw who, just like me, is actually an atheist and doesn't believe a word the wt says and knows it's a bullshit cult but because of his family and friends he still stays in.

Focus

Well done.

Step by painful step, opening the closed mind...

I don't know her but the following is usually true:

At one level, she already knows. She is fighting desperately to cling on to what she has and therefore not have to accept that she has been the victim of a gigantic hoax perpetrated by an evil, malevolent, sociopathic, conscienceless MLM publishing whore.

Keep at it.

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Focus

("Evolved" Class)

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The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

by Focus in

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most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

Focus

EdenOne, I am devoting my one post to you, so I expect more than mere craven gratefulness in return, lol:

your point about the "noo light" is how Russell cheated those other pastors? Ok, point taken, you're right, I was wrong. Can we move on now?

Good. Yes, of course we can.

So I deduced right - you'd misunderstood what scandal I was referring to. Indeed, that one article contained the makings of two or three scandals involving Russell. One of those was "noo light" in the so-called "apostate" (i.e., truth-telling) community.

Remember, this is a fellow who'd been hinting like anything in his scribblings that he was God-appointed as the Faithful & Discreet Slave (he made it so drippingly obvious in ZWT and SiS that even his most moronic reader couldn't have failed to get the hint), and here he is setting-up, using financial chicanery and complex dealing which the layperson wouldn't even begin to comprehend, four unsuspecting local priests, all highly opposed to him, to be trustees for real estate he's using in order to conceal his wealth and thus swindle his wife, therefore scoring a double victory.

What sort of person is that? He's laughing at anyone stupid enough to believe he is "discreet"! Secretive, sly, underhand and cunning, yes - discreet, anything but!

Now, you put forward as evidence of something that Maria had placed flowers at Russell's funeral in 1916.

You put that forward for a reason.

You know, and I know, and furthermore you know I know what that reason was.

I've already explained why she did this, and why nothing is to be deduced from it other than it was almost exactly a century ago, when society's mores were different.

But I'll give you better evidence of Maria's true feelings towards Charles T.

I have proof that at the beginning of April 1913 Mrs Russell was in Canada, sitting in Court ready to give evidence against her husband.

In what matter?

In his attempted libel suit against his most determined adversary, the great Rev'd J. J. Ross!

Yes, Maria was going to testify on behalf of her husband's greatest enemy, the Rev'd Ross's, basically that Ross's scandalous pamphlet about Russell was true.

Russell had been blustering about it being lies, and that had it been printed in the States he'd have taken action, etc. - so the astute Reverend Ross sent Russell the money for the trip to Hamilton in Ontario, received once Russell returned from the West Indies.

I guess Rev'd Ross sent Maria money for her to come too, but that is purely a guess. The fact remains that she was not obliged to come - there was no Canada->USA subpeona - and she chose to come.

Russell came too, and the lawsuit was duly thrown out with a "No Bill" decision - it refused to consider a case for criminal libel against Rev'd Ross. So there was no need for Maria to testify. Alas, as it would have provided even more evidence.

Now, I take it you realize the absurdity (I'm being polite, here) of you mentioning this 'left flowers at his funeral', given the significance of her willingness to testify on behalf of Russell's greatest and most fearsome opponent.

Yes, I have direct evidence of her presence. You will have to wait for it, I am not going to go out of sequence here.

btw, I am not here mainly to argue. Like Jeeebus, I am here to turn brother against Brother, sister against Sister, etc. But I have to instruct you that I am probably one of the few sane (well, reasonably sane) people alive who have read all Russell's scribblings - and he was a prolific scribbler. Incredibly prolific. All six Studies in Scriptures, and all the Zion's Watchtowers (&HoCP) etc.

You clearly haven't. I am lucky to still be sane after doing that - years ago - spread over months.

Russell wrote competently too, in terms of grammar, structure, syntax, idiom.

His English was almost as good as mine.

But I use language to communicate. Russell did it to obfuscate and complicate. And fill pages, recycling old material with minor changes. Sometimes as many as half-a-dozen times, whole big sections of text - he'd wait say five years, and then reprint pages of the old nonsense again, with minor alterations, and trusting no one would notice. So the same poor brainwashed Russellites paid for the same worthless pap again and again.

What else Russell was seeking to accomplish was evident to me.

To bemuse and befuddle his reader, to get them to completely accept him as their Master... and then to further misdeeds which I won't refer to now, because I want to produce my evidence in the order I want to produce it - and not in response to your challenges.

He was clearly not stupid, though not as smart as Maria.

Therefore his culpability is even greater than that of brash bombastic blowhards like Rutherford or filthy perverts like Knorr.

Russell had the intelligence to know better, and thus to do better. He did not use it, and this was his choice. He chose to be a rogue. Like F.Franz, he deserves the very highest punishment possible.

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The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

by Focus in

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most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

Focus

Thanks for the clarification, EdenOne. You may have missed my emendation that no one who supplied http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/russell.html as a link could possible be a Russellite.

Now, back to the matter of the link to support your claim that the cemetery story (the only one I've evidenced in this thread) about C.T. Russell has been more or less known by the "apostate" communnity around this forum.

Nothing wrong with admitting you erred, You Know... if you did.

Those of us like myself, who isn't Divine or even Edenic, are frequently wrong and frequently admit being wrong.

Edited to add:

I'm post-limited (i.e. temporarily muzzled by the autobot) so you won't be hearing more from me for a while.

The links you provided two posts lower are wholly irrelevant - have you read the first post in this thread at all?

At your links, there is no knowledge shown of, and thus no debate about, the particular scandal I pointed to in the lead post.

That Russell was associated with the cemetery is Old Light.

The man was a real estate speculator, and sharp at it, and cheated his wife on alimony - all known.

But what I'd provided there, however, is New Light. He cheated and fooled all those other Pastors!

Please, don't waste my time with fripperies. Read post #1 and see your own error.

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The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

by Focus in

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friends

most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

Focus

There is no corporation in existence anywhere in the world in which Pastor Russell owns a single share of stock, nor in which anyone else holds any stock for his use or benefit.

... but somehow dear old Rutherford forgot to mention that Chas. T. Russell was a financial whizz who knew lots about Trust law and would have had the shares settled into Trusts - discretionary ones, most likely, as there were taxes to evade or postpone, and these are most effective - on his behalf, hm being a mere potential beneficiary.

A simple ruse to allow Rutherford to make the statement above and maintain it is the truth, and nothing but the truth.

But it assuredly is not the whole truth, as it omits the main thing.

How do I know?

Because Rutherford didn't rule it out, nor did he say "nominally or beneficially" or anything like that.

Would you like to buy Brooklyn Bridge from me, sir? I have it on Special Offer this week. Used hundred dollar bills only, tell me what you've got and I'll tell you the price.

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Focus

("No such word as gullible in the dictionary" Class)