Posts by chrisjoel

i have personally rebutted that opinion by stating, with accuracy, that many christians have a gospel ministry and manage to reach hundreds of millions of people across the planet with their message.. .

chrisjoel

Whatever the apostles did Jehovahs people are doing much greater works than they ever did. The important thing to remember is that it doesnt matter what any other religion accomplishes because only HUMBLE ones are being gathered to the shepherds pen in these last days. Yes HUMBLE ones. To be in the truth and to stay in the truth you have to be Humble and Jehovah, Jesus, and the angles are drawing only those types from mankind to survive the great day of wrath coming soon. Are You Humble? alt

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Ex astronaut says Aliens exist but NASA covers it up.

by misanthropic in

i apologize if this has already been posted- thought it was interesting and makes me wonder.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2453700/aliens-exist,-but-nasa-covers-them-up-says-astronaut.html.

dr edgar mitchell, said he was aware of several ufo visits during his career, but each one had been covered up.. .

chrisjoel

I could Understand IF it was ONLY ONE astronaut but ITS NOT:

www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/09/07/01749.html

U.S. Astronauts reveal encounters with apparent Extraterrestrials and UFOs

Edited by Peter Tremblay

Rumors have persisted for years that the astronauts -- nearly all of whom are military officers susceptible to being silenced under orders -- may have seen something more on the Moon than rocks and dust.

According to transcripts of the technical debriefing following the Apollo 11 mission, astronauts Armstrong, Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin and Michael Collins told of an encounter with a large cylindrical UFO even before reaching the Moon," U.S. investigative journalist and researcher Jim Marrs documents Mr. Aldrin further officially presented his encounters with apparent Extraterrestrials on CNN's Larry King Show.

Jim Marrs further presents that Mr. Aldrin said, "The first unusual thing that we saw I guess was one day out or pretty close to the Moon. It had a sizable dimension to it". Aldrin said the Apollo crew at first thought the object was the Saturn 4 booster rocket (S-IVB); but, he added, "We called the ground and were told the S-IVB was 6,000 miles away."

Mr. Aldrin described the UFO as a cylinder, while Armstrong said it was "really two rings" Two connected rings". Collins also said it appeared to be a hollow, tumbling cylinder. He added, "It was a hollow cylinder. But then you could change the focus on the sextant and it would be replaced by this open-book shape. It was really weird."

Even more strange was the experience of Mr. Aldrin and Mr. Armstrong, after they reached the Moon.

According to an Associated Press story of July 20, 1969 published in the San Bernardino Sun-Telegram, the astronauts sighted eerie lights inside a crater near the point on the Moon where their lunar lander was due to touch down the next day.

On their first sweep around the Moon, Armstrong described a mysterious bright light on the inner wall of the crater Aristarchus, located north of their flight path. "It seems to have a slight amount of florescence to it. The area in the crater is quite bright," he reported.

"That area is definitely brighter than anything else I can see. There doesn't appear to be any color involved in it. It looks like an eerie sight," confirmed Aldrin.

Two astronauts who appear to have broken ranks are Dr. Edgar Mitchell and Gordon Cooper. On The Oprah Winfrey Show on 19 July 1991, Mitchell hinted that all information regarding UFOs has not been released, saying, "I do believe that there is a lot more known about extraterrestrial investigation than is available to the public right now [and] has been for a long time... It's a long, long story. It goes back to World War II when all of that happened, and is highly classified stuff."

On Dateline NBC in 1996, Mitchell was even more candid. "I have no firsthand experience, but I have had the opportunity to meet with people from three countries who in the course of their official duties claim to have had personal firsthand encounter experiences... with Extraterrestrials," he said. Jim Marrs says that "Mitchell flatly stated that some advanced military craft use technology derived from alien spacecraft that have been collected by the U.S. Government."

Cooper, in a letter read during a 1978 meeting at the United Nations to discuss UFOs, stated, "...I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet form other planets, which are obviously a little more advanced than we are here on Earth."

Also that year, Mr. Cooper wrote a letter to the ambassador of the Mission of Grenada to the United Nations supporting a UN initiative to study UFOs. In his letter, Cooper stated that astronauts "are very reluctant even to discuss UFOs due to the great numbers of people who have indiscriminately sold fake stories and forged documents, abusing their names and reputations without hesitation. Those few astronauts who have continued to participate in the UFO field have had to do so very cautiously. There are several of us who do believe in UFOs and who have had occasion to see a UFO on the ground, or from an airplane."

Cooper's mention of a "UFO on the ground. apparently was a reference to his own experience at Edwards Air Force Base on May 2, 1957. In 1993, Cooper gave this account of the incident: "I had a crew that was filming an installation of a precision landing system we were installing out on the dry lake bed, and they were there with stills and movies, and filmed the whole installation and they came running in to tell me that this UFO, a little saucer, had come down right over them, put down three gear, and landed about 50 yards from them, and as they proceeded to go on over to get a closer shot of it, it lifted up, put the gear in, and disappeared in a rapid rate of speed.

"And so I had to follow my directions as a military... I had to look up the regulations on who I was to call to report this, which I did, and they ordered me to immediately have the film developed, put it in a pouch, and send them by the commanding general's plane to Washington, which I did. And that was the last I've ever heard of the film."

It is interesting to note indicates Mr. Marrs that, "despite the continued protests that there is no government secrecy regarding UFOs, there is no public report on this incident. Although the event was listed in the Project Blue Book index, a full report and clear photos are suspiciously absent."

Yet Mr. Cooper, who reported the UFO landing, was selected as a Mercury astronaut only two years later. In a 1996 interview, Mr. Cooper said he discounts any conventional explanation for his experience. Asked his thoughts on UFOs, the astronaut said, "Well, I figured it was somebody coming from some distant place to visit us."

Steve Omar, another investigative journalist and researcher, indicates that J. Allen Hynek (who investigated U.F.O.s for the U.S. Air Force), Major Donald Keyhoe, Timothy Good (in his book Above Top Secret) suggest secrecy about UFOs and Extraterrestrials. One unquestionably absolute expert we may want to consult is Christopher Kraft, who was Director of the NASA tracking base in Houston during the Apollo Moon missions, when he revealed the following conversation “after” he left his work at NASA:

- ASTRONAUTS NElL ARMSTRONG and BUZZ ALDRIN speaking from the Moon: “Those are giant things. No, no, no .... this is not an optical illusion. No one is going to believe this!”

- MISSION CONTROL (HOUSTON CENTER): “What...what...what? What the hell is happening? What’s wrong with you?”

- ASTRONAUTS: “They’re here under the surface.”

- MISSION CONTROL: “What’s there? Emission interrupted... interference control calling Apollo II.”

- ASTRONAUTS: “We saw some visitors. They were there for awhile, observing the instruments.”

- MISSION CONTROL: ”Repeat your last information.”

- ASTRONAUTS: “I say that there were other spaceships. They’re lined up on the other side of the crater.”

- MISSION CONTROL: “Repeat...repeat!”

- ASTRONAUTS: “Let us sound this orbita ..... In 625 to 5... automatic relay connected... My hands are shaking so badly I can’t do anything. Film it? God, if these damned cameras have picked up anything... what then?”

- MISSION CONTROL: “Have you picked up anything?”

- ASTRONAUTS: “I didn’t have any film at hand. Three shots of the saucers or whatever they were that were ruining the film.”

- MISSION CONTROL: “Control, control here. Are you on your way? Is the uproar with the U.F.O.s. over?

- ASTRONAUTS: “They’ve landed there. There they are and they are watching us.”

- MISSION CONTROL: “The mirrors, the mirrors...have you set them up?”

> - ASTRONAUTS: “Yes, they’re in the right place. But whoever made those space ships surely can come tomorrow and remove them. Over and out.”

There is an unconfirmed report, also documented by Steve Omar, that when Buzz Aldrin opened the door after landing on the Moon, he immediately saw a transparent etherical being staring at him outside. Welcome to the Moon?? Allegedly, NASA Director Kraft added that there was a public and a secret private A.S.A. radio frequency between Moon and Mission Control and that the conversation above took place during a mysterious two minute interruption in public transmissions. To prove it is the truth, hundreds of independent CIVILIAN radio operators with powerful VHF equipment separately reported hearing the AME spaceship report from the Apollo moon-walkers!

"Soviet radio operators also picked it up and published it in Moscow. Another mysterious radio message from the Moon was broadcast on French public television only one time before it was censored AFTER it leaked out. That transmission appeared to be a mysterious clearly spoken ALIEN LANGUAGE," further reports Steve Omar.

The famous French historian and author Robbert Charroux published the transmission which has been suppressed in the U.S. It came from U.S. astronaut Worden who transmitted it to NASA, and expert linguists have been unable to translate the message.

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I see the light! Jesus Saves! Our God is An Awesome God!

by chrisjoel in

jw
friends

i understand now.

how could i have been so out of touch.. http://jesusplayssoccer.ytmnd.com/.

come on you cracked a smile....

chrisjoel

I understand now. How could i have been so out of touch.

http://jesusplayssoccer.ytmnd.com/

Come on you cracked a smile...

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Banned from my sisters wedding

by LunaFing in

i'm feeling rejected and hurt because i've just been informed that i am not invited to my little sisters wedding.

first, here's a little background story on my relationship with her: she and i are three years apart.

when we were younger we were very close (i was in the "truth" back then).

chrisjoel

My heart goes out you. It hurts . When i was Dfd I went to the KH for the ceremony of my little brothers wedding, and after the talk, my middle brother came up to me and in front of all the relatives smiled shook my hand and said with a grin "Stay Out Of The Pictures!" and walked away. ..I really hope someday theyll realize what theyre doing.

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To Mrsjones5, Freudianslip, snowbird and other folks of color

by donny in

based on the material below from the faithful and discreet slave, i was wondering if any of you experienced any of this "enlightment" during your jw sojurn.

based on your pictures, i would have to say you must have been weak in the faith.

what is puzzling though, is why did michael jackson dissassociate himself just before reaching perfection?

chrisjoel

Before Sam Herd, no African American has served on the GB... I guess it took about 100 years for the GB to realize that African Americans really are equal to whites

A@G

Didnt you hear? William Jackson was a black man on the Governing Body in the70s!.....Ok well no he really wasnt, in my opinion, (my mom knew him in and said he was white....) but that didnt stop Firpo Carr from trying to reverse all the inconsistencies in print over the years in his book.."Jehovahs Witnesses from a Black American Perspective"

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UFO Coverup

by metatron in

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friends

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/07/20/lkl.ufo.long.cnn.

little by little, the reality of our naive ideas about humans being alone in the universe is being exposed.

this could destroy revealed religion completely if it was fully grasped.

chrisjoel

There are a load of true believers in the world, it isn't just JWs who will believe anything without evidence.

Thats why I posted an intresting documentary ...Out Of The Blue...lots of ppl who should know talk about the subject. Lots of ppl in the military very very high in rank Should know but were denied information so it isnt remarkable that we dont have any information other than eye witness accounts is it?

Eye witness accounts arent evidence but they should count for something. That something is repeated over and again....and again and again. The fact remains that the majority of sightings are explainable but a small percentage defy explanation. Police officers publically stating what they saw is about as good as it gets until one of those things crashes in Manhatten.

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