R.Crusoe

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  Hypothetical right and wrong scenerio.

  by Salivating Dog in

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  if a gifted student graduates top of his law enforcement and ethics class....and is invited by the instructor to remain on as his aide.

  what if his instructor starts doing exactly what he adamantly taught the aide was dead wrong to the next class?.

  does the aide speak up and point out his teacher's hypocrisy and crime...in front of the entire class if nessesary?.

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  If I was sure of what I perceived I would mention it and probably get tortured for all eternity coz I am pathetic that way though I rarely do the hypo part unless pushed to the limits of human endurance which I never contemplate until it occurs - some people push you there. You are on the first step by the sounds of things. Wait until someone takes you high up and hangs you over trhe edge and then ask yourself the same question. There are limited options open to you then - hypothetically of course!

  I need a woman so that I can be a hero and get a right scenario!
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  Dare you have an opinion here?

  by James Free in

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  i have noticed that if someone has an opinion that does not go with the flow on this forum they often get insulted and shot down in flames.

  i thought this was a discussion forum, but i am sadly dismayed to read so much intolerance of another's opinion.

  if you appear to support the jw's in any way, even though people like me may disagree with you, you are entitled to your opinion.

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  Opinions:

  Some people use them to enable understanding.

  Some people use them to rid themselves of confusion.

  Some people use them to deliberately hurt others.

  etc.

  The usefulness of opinions lies in their ability to enable and enhance understanding IMO. Others would have a diferent opinion!
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  Dare you have an opinion here?

  by James Free in

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  i have noticed that if someone has an opinion that does not go with the flow on this forum they often get insulted and shot down in flames.

  i thought this was a discussion forum, but i am sadly dismayed to read so much intolerance of another's opinion.

  if you appear to support the jw's in any way, even though people like me may disagree with you, you are entitled to your opinion.

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  Debates are not always the norm on some exJW forums. In fact Kingdom Halls are no place for debates either - just pied piper follow my leader.

  About 9 months ago I began, to everyones regret, posting on exJW discussion boards. I was still extremely JWsympathetic despite being out18years . I am now not sympathetic to their ethos and would have liked to have gotten this mindset 25years ago.

  I have woken up to the fact that I am not the only person whos personal life has felt like garbage for so many years and has put it all down to my own faults in spite of giving my everything! I woke up and realised that there are seriously hurt people who are then shunned! It is not the LOVE of God divine messenger it claims to be! It is a wrong status to bestow upon itself! After convincing people it is, it then knows the ruination it will cause in many lives and then just washes its hands of these often lovely, sincere people who then go apeshit! It is a CULT! And I am surprising myself writing that!

  It's why some will not tolerate proJW propoganda!
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  This girl "wants" to die.

  by Hiddenwindow in

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  she was given a blood transfusion and her condition improved, but she is appearing in court to petition her own death.

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  here is indoctrination for you.. http://winnipegsun.com/news/canada/2007/10/26/4606617-sun.html.

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  If it was in my power I would not let her die. This is a massive issue if I read this situation correctly because her parents will perpetuate this same mentality when she gets out. It will continue to affect her in odd ways. I would feel one may get into 'religious defragmentation' counselling and that may just mess her up more. It is a bad situation!
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  I am confused!

  by spiritboi in

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  i am from a se asia country.

  was not long in the truth.

  only 3 years.

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  When these people get healed are you sure it is not just some getting well because they would do anyway?

  Are you sure your dad did this? Did he use any herbs or what?

  I have never known a person to get well through magic that would not get well anyway.
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  What Dreams Have you Had, and have you Talked in Your Sleep ?

  by flipper in

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  now here is a little different subject we haven't discussed much.

  i read a book a while back about dreams called, gestalt therapy verbatim , by frederick perls, a well known psychologist .

  his take on dreams, without getting too deep, was we dream about unfinished situations in our lives which are troubling us still .

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  I can remember having a dream within a dream and talking to myself. It was a weird dream and I thought in my dream, 'This can't be real you must wake up now!' And so unbeknownes to me I thought I had woken myself up but I had not! I know this because a little while later whilst I thought I had really visited the bathroom in my dream I realised I was pissing on myself! This is a rare occurence so any ladies with a 3000ft IQ do not be deterred.
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  Someone Just Asked Me to Marry Him!

  by Magick in

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  i opened my myspace and received this letter:.

  hello sister ,.

  hope to find you in good health am a jehovah wittness xxxxxx by name i saw your profile, am single looking for a good jehovahs wittness sister to be my life patiner, am black african if u are in trested please contact me here to see my pictures [email protected], or call me +xxxxxxxx.

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  I have been in a high queue at 3000ft - at the post offics on top of Snowdon. But I do not earn big money. I still do not love it coz Yeshua said not to and so I only feel it is for my basic lifestyle. So if there are any gorgeous women who like mountain tops and frugal living - please get in touch. Oh and please warn me if you yodel because it makes my ears ring - especially the one about 'There was a man who everybody knows'.
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  What is the Original Religion?

  by Satanus in

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  seems to me that the primordial religion, if it could be called that, is a form of paganism that has pantheism, animism and shamanism.

  also, it may contain sun worship.

  in this 'religion', they felt a connection w the land, had respect for nature and the animals.

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  The idea that there was a first man/woman is like the one about chicken and eggs. It doesn't really amount to religion. It's more a logic exercise which has an unknown degree of certainty respecting the answer.
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  This girl "wants" to die.

  by Hiddenwindow in

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  she was given a blood transfusion and her condition improved, but she is appearing in court to petition her own death.

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  here is indoctrination for you.. http://winnipegsun.com/news/canada/2007/10/26/4606617-sun.html.

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  She will feel guilty for staying alive and will start to imagine another soul is running through her own because 'the blood is the soul thereof' and this will make her think she should die to please her god. This is the trouble with rule and regulation from an evolutionary book - which was cut short millenia ago from any further knowledge that transpired.

  One thing is for sure if God were that bothered He would do far more with the world than get kids to not take blood from others just to spend a few more decades living a life. It is difficult to aportion blame in some ways - some people do not get away from brainwashing ideas till they are well past middle age - let alone childhood. In this respect it could be said that humans never grow up - they are all fallible. The age of what constitutes accountability is there so other humans can enforce parameters which enable a degree of conformity. It is a bad arrangement for adults who are not 'indoctrination free' but sadly it is difficult to come up with a superior alternative IMHO. Even society itself has a religio-aspect to its structure by its very definition and so enforcers of its parameters are in some ways functioning like elders/overseers of an organisation. Humanity is its own perpetual experiment as to what is to be or not to be and it is constantly changing. Conformity to current ideology is adviseable in order to get along in society - but as respects 'truth' or who has the 'way' - is a whole other thing and its this that JWs attempt to pursue and what springs up examples like the one above.

  IMO it is better to avoid attempting to establish a concrete 'truth' or 'way' because it limits humanity rather than helping it find what its potential is - in all sort s of ways!
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  What is the Original Religion?

  by Satanus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  seems to me that the primordial religion, if it could be called that, is a form of paganism that has pantheism, animism and shamanism.

  also, it may contain sun worship.

  in this 'religion', they felt a connection w the land, had respect for nature and the animals.

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  I wodred about American Indians and how much of life held a sacredness for them and if this was a common theme amongst many peoples overthrown by 'Christian' takeovers in past centuries. I have often wondered if they were closer to their maker than those who labeled them as heathens!