Posts by flipper

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"If I wasn't born a JW, I would never have become one."

by OneEyedJoe in

i've seen it mentioned by a few on the forum that at some point there was a realization that had they not been born a jw, they never would've converted no matter how many times the jws tried to study with them.

this was my experience too, and i'm wondering how universal it is for those that were born-in but eventually left.

i think i started having this thought (more specifically that if i were not born a jw, i would surely have become an atheist by now) in my late teens.

flipper

" If I wasn't born a JW , I would never have become one ".

Yes indeed I think that's a pretty accurate and true assessment of my situation as well . Very true. I was the MOST independent thinker in my JW family of 3 older siblings and my elder dad and mom had joined the JW's 8 years before me the last child was born. So I didn't have a snowball's chance in hell NOT to be raised in the JW cult as my folks had been in it for 8 years already when I was born. Lucky me. Not.

So I had to find many coping mechanisms as a teenage JW growing up in a strict JW household with a Nazi elder dad. Things like listening to rock n' roll music i.e. Led Zeppelin, Beatles, Moody Blues , Pink Floyd - just to survive and maintain possession of my own brain and critical thinking ability. Through some miracle- it worked - here I am at age 56 a free thinking ex-JW who has a fuller world view than I once did. Have tried to read and re-educate myself these last 12 years after exiting the JW cult. It helped.

So no I would NEVER have joined the Witnesses as it was thrust upon me without my choice from birth to age 18. Freedom of mind is now priceless to me- and I will never let anybody steal away that freedom of mind ever again ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Im sick of my life

by BlackWolf in

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sorry but i really feel like i need to rant right now.

recently my dad was made an elder so my family has been doing a lot more "theocratic" activities lately.

every morning i wake up and put on my itchy dress and stupid makeup and heels and then pretend that i love what i'm doing and that everybody is my friend when in reality i feel horrible and all the other teenage girls at my hall hate me for some reason.

flipper

BLACKWOLF- You've had many great suggestions here from many of these wonderful folks I'm honored to call my friends on this board. I was born and raised in the JW organization as well and didn't exit until age 44 about 12 years ago. Some of my nieces and nephews ( by JW siblings kids ) got out of the Witnesses and got great college educations and even online training as well and ended up having happier, more fulfilling lives.

You can do this as well ! I know it's very difficult right now not being able to be in control of your own life - it seems you have very deeply indoctrinated JW parents who aren't too open minded - my dad was an elder for years so I know what it feels like to be controlled too. But please know and be assured that we here really do care about what happens to you and only wish happiness for you and the freedom of expression that you deserve in life. Hang in there my friend, keep on keeping on in your interests of horses, art, and educating yourself via the online suggestions folks here gave you and hopefully within a couple years when you turn 18 you can be free to make most of your own decisions on how you want to spend your time in life without the restrictions of the mind control being put on you by your parents and the WT Society. Take care and good luck to you, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Witnesses killed my friend today.

by WasOnceBlind in

today has been a horrible day.

what began as a day of joy finding out that one of my lifelong friends had her baby, turned into a nightmare when her brother called me to let me know she had passed away after birth.

i was in shock and didn't ask how.

flipper

This is SO sad and SO disgusting at the same time. WASONCEBLIND- I am so sorry for your loss - my deepest condolences to you dear friend. And so sorry that this little baby will be without his or her birth mother for the rest of it's life. And for what reason ? Because the young mother was still controlled by death dealing indoctrination by a criminal organization the WT Society. She was controlled through fear mongering over fantasy illusions promoted by WT leaders.

THIS is one of the main reasons the WT Society's use of mind control techniques is SO very dangerous as well as barbaric and criminal ! And it's more dangerous than most of the public are aware of. For a person that's been spit out of, and rejected or disfellowshipped by the JW organization - and then to still have that FEAR of rejection in them deep enough to die for a bunch of criminals who could not care less if that person dies- is an indicator of just how DEEP the psychological mind control of the WT Society still affects and INFECTS DFed ex-JW's to the point of losing one's life and chance to raise one's own child up to adulthood - all because of the criminal threats of a fantasy " death " at an illusionary fake " Armageddon " from WT leaders if a person does the humane thing and takes blood to save their life as well as saving their newborn child misery and potential pain.

I swear to fucking god if I had a rocket launcher I would cram it up the GB's ass and detonate it. That's how pissed off these crimes make me. They need to be brought up on crimes against humanity and have thousands of " no blood transfusion " lawsuits brought up against them to answer for the thousands of JW's who have died for this ridiculously stupid indoctrination. The criminal WT leaders are the ones to blame for this. They need to be arrested in a VERY real way and put in prison with the key thrown away

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For Martin Luther King's Day: Freedom Songs

by flipper in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpubgcng6tw.

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flipper

www.youtube.com/watch?v=80nUhHofw0U.

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For Martin Luther King's Day: Freedom Songs

by flipper in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpubgcng6tw.

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flipper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPZydAotVOY.

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For Martin Luther King's Day: Freedom Songs

by flipper in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpubgcng6tw.

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flipper

www.youtube.com/watch?v=F69PBQ4ZyNw.

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It Is With the Heaviest of Hearts...

by AudeSapere in

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.. source: http://eagles.com/news/266763.

it is with the heaviest of hearts that we [the eagles]...the passing of our comrade, eagles founder, glenn frey, in new york city on monday, january 18th, 2016.glenn fought a courageous battle for the past several weeks but, sadly, succumbed to complications from rheumatoid arthritis, acute ulcerative colitis and pneumonia.the frey family would like to thank everyone who joined glenn to fight this fight and hoped and prayed for his recovery.words can neither describe our sorrow, nor our love and respect for all that he has given to us, his family, the music community & millions of fans worldwide.cindy frey | taylor frey | deacon frey | otis frey|don henley | joe walsh | timothy b. schmit | bernie leadon | irving azoff“it's your world now”written by glenn frey and jack tempchinfrom the eagles’ long road out of eden albuma perfect day, the sun is sinkin' lowas evening falls, the gentle breezes blowthe time we shared went by so fastjust like a dream, we knew it couldn't lastbut i'd do it all againif i could, somehowbut i must be leavin' soonit's your world nowit's your world nowmy race is runi'm moving onlike the setting sunno sad goodbyesno tears allowedyou'll be alrightit's your world noweven when we are apartyou'll always be in my heartwhen dark clouds appear in the skyremember true love never diesbut first a kiss, one glass of winejust one more dance while there's still timemy one last wish: someday, you'll seehow hard i tried and how much you meant to meit's your world nowuse well your timebe part of something goodleave something good behindthe curtain fallsi take my bowthat's how it's meant to beit's your world nowit's your world nowit's your world now.

..... source: http://eagles.com/news/266763.

flipper

Another sad loss on the music scene, very sad. First Bowie now Glenn Frey. The Eagles made so many great songs. Hotel California being one of my favorites personally. Many condolences to his family and friends. Sincerely, Mr. & Mrs. Flipper

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