Posts by flipper

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LURKING JW: Thinking of leaving? Learn from my experience.

by SnakesInTheTower in

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"mental wondering in the wilderness"... uh oh.... it's a long post from snakes.... lol.

yep... i think that is the best way to describe where i am at in life right now.

if you have read my past posts (mostly in the private section) you know some of my history as a life-long (now former) witness.. i have been away from the jw religion, for all intents and purposes, since dec. 06, though it was not until sept 07 that i stopped attending meetings.

flipper

Hi, Snakes! Long time...nice to see you here.

Look forward to your story - it's a good one.

Mrs. Flip

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Article: Reveal News Organization: JWs Cover-Up of Child Sex Abuse and Oust a Victim

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/article/jehovahs-witnesses-cover-up-child-sex-abuse-and-oust-a-victim/.

jehovahs witnesses cover up child sex abuse and oust a victim.

topics: criminal justice / religion .

flipper

This story just sums up what the watchtower is all about. Over the past 8 years I've heard so many similar stories that it doesn't surprise me at all.

That is so disgusting.

Most jws will mindlessly tune out these stories by robotically repeating the crap in the latest preemptive damage control articles and talks. Those witnesses probably consider that propaganda to be "warnings from Jehovah".

I think it will do more good to get this out to the public. Not only will they confront jws about it but will be less likely to join this cult.

Heartbreaking to think about all the children being raised in this corrupt religion.

Mrs. Flipper

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Article: Reveal News Organization: JWs Cover-Up of Child Sex Abuse and Oust a Victim

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/article/jehovahs-witnesses-cover-up-child-sex-abuse-and-oust-a-victim/.

jehovahs witnesses cover up child sex abuse and oust a victim.

topics: criminal justice / religion .

flipper

The hypocrisy of the child molester Lawrence disfellowshipping Debbie McDaniel while he was still an elder who was molesting children is astounding. Debbie's quote, " I thought it ironic that the man who molested me was now going to oust me to keep his congregation clean. "

WT leaders indoctrinate this type of hypocritical thinking into elders who wink their eyes at their own wrongdoing - yet bring the hammer down on rank & file JW members. Especially when child abuse is involved regarding other elders or WT appointed men in power positions - even many long time elders go speechless , go silent and take the 5th amendment. Not even reporting it to police many times. The legal hammer needs to be brought thundering down onto this WT organization in a very large manner

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Article: Reveal News Organization: JWs Cover-Up of Child Sex Abuse and Oust a Victim

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/article/jehovahs-witnesses-cover-up-child-sex-abuse-and-oust-a-victim/.

jehovahs witnesses cover up child sex abuse and oust a victim.

topics: criminal justice / religion .

flipper

BARBARA - Thanks for posting this article. Absolutely astonishing and nauseating at the same time. Yet this same story can be repeated thousands of times within the Jehovah's Witness organization.

Just like the lady in Australia who recounted her own JW father's abusing of her and how ALL of her former friends- JW's - sided with her molester father- this same thing happened in this account of Debbie McDaniel where even her own parents sat next to her molester Lawrence in court supporting him and refused to even make eye contact with Debbie.

This organization needs to be brought down in a real forceful way. The inhumanity the WT leaders display is inculcated into every single rank & file member of the JW organization whereby you have a bunch of little miniature control freak judgmental Hitler's running around judging anything and anybody negatively who doesn't kowtow or agree or cooperate with WT Society's views- including the hiding of child abuse.

I truly hope Debbie, her wife and daughter can go on living a happier, successful life as years go on - but just running into Lawrence again walking free as a criminal child molester in the store just opens up old wounds and I'm sure she feels abused again ! The lack of justice is astounding. In my opinion there should be no " statue of limitations " on child abuse. There's no statue of limitations on murder- they research " cold cases " in murder- why not child abuse as well ? Disgusting

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Turns out they don't care about JW children either.............

by dubstepped in

so by now most of us have seen the clip of an elder getting owned by the attorney regarding why they don't seem to care for the children outside of the congregation by refusing to report suspected child abusers.

if not, here's a link:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq9dqhb5dua&feature=youtu.be.

flipper

Great thread. Very well put. The train wreck that calls itself an " organization " - the WT Society - is about to be derailed. It needs to fully come flying off of the track and the only way to do this is by a massive media exposure of corruption and crimes committed and lawlessness exposed. And as you say the sad thing is the abused children get lost in the shuffle in all of this. WT Society is so concerned about their financial well being, the appearance of the GB and WT leaders in front of the rank & file JW's - that it's like the abused children don't even exist.

I mean- good lord- look at the 2nd you tube testimony of the female victim BGC or whatever her name was and it absolutely rips your heart out listening to the corruption of her JW father, the corruption of the JW elders, and the corruption of all of her father's JW friends welcoming him back after he was reinstated. It's like she got abused over and over again by the attitudes of people in the congregation acting like her dad was some kind of celebrity after he abused his own daughter and other daughters.

This organization is rotten from the top down to it's core. Time to chop the WT tree down and put in jail the corrupt men at the top. And others in positions of authority who allow child abuse to continue

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FMF Rant on Abuse and JW Apologists: The Single Root of the Whole Issue(s)

by freemindfade in

for the jw apologists, they debate certain factors to down play all the recent sex abuse information in the jehovah's witness organization.

and there is so much focus on "two witness rule" and "parents can report" the "elders aren't legal authorities" and many other smoke screen issues.

a lot of these issues and discussion are down stream from what i believe to be the root of the issue.

flipper

FREEMINDFADE- Exactly, good thread. You are right on the money hitting the nail on the head. For years now the WT Society has treated child abuse as a " sin " and not the crime that it really is. And therefore due to this loophole created by WT leaders- pedophiles and child molesters skate away free many times without prosecution from law authorities.

As you state the arrogance factor is HUGE with the GB and WT higher ups. They feel entitled to BE the law of the land. They are such legends in their own minds that they think THEY can determine who is a practicing child molester and not the law. They think that THEY are God . They've even stated that in their Elders manuals and letters to the elders that THEY will determine if someone is a continuing threat as a child molester- it's not for rank & file JW's to determine in their opinion. If that's not ultimate control of people- I don't know what is. Jesus.

It's high time for all of these ugly WT skeletons to come falling out of the closet as well as high time for WT officials to be jailed for crimes against humanity. As I always say : it's a criminal organization

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It's all so confusing!

by kairos in

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all the abuse issues are exploding all over the world.. what is it's root?.

1. satan.

2. lying apostates.

flipper

The root cause of the child abuse within the WT Society and JW's problem is - An 136 year old organization called the WT Society built on patriarchal principles that emphasizes the control of men as " heads " over women and children and minimizes the need for or importance of women and children to even exist , let alone to have rights .

The self important, pompous, arrogant attitude of WT leaders thinking that they know better than law enforcement officials in how to handle pedophiles, child abuse crimes- so much so - that they try to hide the crimes and handle it " in house " so as to fake out the public and fake out even it's own JW members and have an APPEARANCE of being a " righteous, clean " organization - when in fact the WT Society is nothing more than a CRIMINAL organization posing as a religion. So this is another root cause.

These are the root causes of what allows WT officials to flout the law allowing child molesters to serve again as elders once time goes by. WT leaders feel entitled- they feel they are above the law because they feel they ARE the law. They feel they speak for " God " - or ARE " God " - so they answer to nobody. So they must be brought to justice and forced to face their crimes. It's how I see it

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Hundreds of JW Child Molesters in Australia not Reported to Police- CNN News you tube

by flipper in

i felt it might be a good idea to post this so that sitting on the fence jw's or jw lurkers can see that this australia jw child abuse news of 1,006 jw child molesters not being reported to police by elders is a reality that has hit mainstream news media.

i thought this report was very well done.

here's the link : http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/07/28/australia-jehovah-witness-sex-abuse-hannigan-lklv.cnn.

flipper

SPARROWDOWN- I'm glad that you left as well ! Me too ! The arrogance and callousness of the WT Society and it's leaders definitely needs to be exposed I agree.

DGEERO- Good point you make. If any JW or anybody can listen to the female ex-JW victims testimony on the 2nd court case you tube and not see the criminality, the hatemongering that occurs from elders and other JW's towards child abuse victims - then nothing will convince JW's. It's disgusting and nauseating. After listening to that poor ex-JW female victim's testimony- I seriously wanted to go kick some GB ass I'll tell you. Or go decapitate any currently serving elders who were former child molesters. WT leaders will NEVER take responsibility for anything criminal or that they are held liable for. It's not in their DNA.

WIFIBANDIT- Thanks for making the link visible with the you tube showing ! I appreciate it.

NEW YORK 44M- I agree with you for sure. It's going to be an interesting two weeks listening to this horrific WT exposing testimony. They deserve exposure. It's about time. Some of these crimes have been absolutely nauseating.

PROBLEMADDICT 2- I hope it sets the media on fire against the WT Society's criminal ways also. You are probably right- the GB knew this was going to happen so they got Stephen Lett and Anthony Morris to do a preemptive strike on their JW websites downplaying any significance of " worldly " media. Such assholes.

CRAZYGUY- You are absolutely right- these GB members deserve jail time for sure for their crimes against humanity. I hope the Australian commission socks it to them good.

VILLAGE IDIOT- It is absolutely incredible how many child molesters are within the Jehovah's Witness cult. When I checked Megan's law a few ears ago to see how many registered sex offenders I recognized out of 1,000 offenders in my home town- I was astonished to see 12 JW's or ex-JW's on the list of 1,000. These crimes are way more common than we realize. And these are just the ones we KNOW about. Can you imagine how many of these child abuse cases are out there ? I shudder to think

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[Day 2 - 28/7]The Royal Commissions investigation of child sexual abuse within Jehovah’s Witnesses. + VIDEO

by C0ntr013r in

i decided to take one for the team and stay up to record day 2.. part 1 has been uploaded and part 2 and 3 will soon be available.. part 1: .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxspcullksa&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui&index=4.

playlist where the other parts will be added as i upload them, it also contains day 1 recorded by barbara:.

flipper

Haven't commented on this thread yet. From day one that elder Jackson is such a " dildo " brain. He claims that he or other elders can make recommendations to the Governing Body that will cause them to change their policies ? And the GB will then make changes ? This was at the 15 minute to 16 minute mark in the 1st you tube. What part of " deluding himself " does he not understand ? This guy is so stupid. He's just grasping for straws here

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Hundreds of JW Child Molesters in Australia not Reported to Police- CNN News you tube

by flipper in

i felt it might be a good idea to post this so that sitting on the fence jw's or jw lurkers can see that this australia jw child abuse news of 1,006 jw child molesters not being reported to police by elders is a reality that has hit mainstream news media.

i thought this report was very well done.

here's the link : http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/07/28/australia-jehovah-witness-sex-abuse-hannigan-lklv.cnn.

flipper

SPARROWDOWN - Exactly. The WT Society couldn't care less. The GB and WT leaders need to have a media fire lit under their rear ends right now. One reason I posted this to inform people that it's hitting mainstream media. The lack of caring and the arrogance that is inculcated and indoctrinated into these WT appointed elders is astonishing to people in the " normal " or " outside " world outside of the JW organization. Needs to be kept in the foreground how irresponsible and criminally negligent WT leaders are