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Kendrick " Letter of Introduction " from Elders regarding Candace Conti Case

by flipper in

as many of us saw in the pbs news hour program and the abc news nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester jonathan kendrick when he moved to a new congregation.

i have parts of this " introduction letter " from the fremont congregation to the oakley congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these wt appointed elders were.

dated 1/16/98 it opens : .

flipper

ON THE WAY OUT- Exactly, you nailed it. The lax attitude of these elders was to say the very least- astonishing - to the point of totally minimizing ANY wrongs that Kendrick had done in the past and as you stated- like Adam blaming Eve- the elders just put the blame on Kendrick's wife for not being " submissive " enough thus causing Kendrick all his problems. It's amazing how circular reasoning is alive and well in elders communications to other elders within the JW cult ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Kendrick " Letter of Introduction " from Elders regarding Candace Conti Case

by flipper in

as many of us saw in the pbs news hour program and the abc news nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester jonathan kendrick when he moved to a new congregation.

i have parts of this " introduction letter " from the fremont congregation to the oakley congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these wt appointed elders were.

dated 1/16/98 it opens : .

flipper

STIRRED- I have talked to active JW's at their JW cart while they were " witnessing " - and you are right some of them DO think Candace Conti was doing a " money grab " - even in spite of her testimony that she was doing it to protect other future child abuse victims.

However- Even JW's cannot refute letters written , signed, and dated from elders to other elders supported by the WT Society recommending Jonathan Kendrick as an allegedly , " " fine brother who can offer a positive spirit to any congregation ". And then try to justify why no JW parents were warned but a false and lying recommendation was sent from one elder body to the next. It's unexplainable , it's irresponsible, and quite frankly - criminally negligent as Kendrick DID go on to molest other JW children. JW's can claim anything they want- but the evidence is in writing condemning the elders actions and exposing the criminality of those actions

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Kendrick " Letter of Introduction " from Elders regarding Candace Conti Case

by flipper in

as many of us saw in the pbs news hour program and the abc news nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester jonathan kendrick when he moved to a new congregation.

i have parts of this " introduction letter " from the fremont congregation to the oakley congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these wt appointed elders were.

dated 1/16/98 it opens : .

flipper

O.K. ! Now for page 2 replies . Thanks for all of your great replies ! Keep the comments and thoughts coming on this thread please ! Lurking JW's NEED to read this information as do any inactive JW's sitting on the fence or any non-JW's who can warn other people about the criminal negligence of the WT Society. Your help is appreciated . Thanks.

BLONDIE- I agree with you. I feel terribly sad for those in the JW organization who have suffered injustices due to the irresponsible WT Society child abuse policies. Like yourself- I left this organization mainly due to the unjust behavior of appointed elders who I realized NEVER had any alleged " holy spirit " that appointed them. It was all about who kissed who's ass that got them appointed. Nothing to do with how good or kind or how just a person was. The whole organization is rotten because it comes down and starts at the TOP of the WT organization and like bad apples the disease just permeates down into elders, into heads of family with the men , and even permeates into women who end up STAYING with child molesters because they've been mind controlled to " respect their head " and never question anything. It's a organizational "mental illness " is what it is.

LABEL LICKER- Exactly. I saw so much dishonesty and the promoting of very sick minded individuals into positions of oversight and responsibility within congregations when I used to attend years ago. And like yourself I just couldn't stomach it anymore so I left due to all the injustices I saw.

STILL TOTALLY ADD- I bet you saw a lot as an elder in the JW organization. Lots of times I saw elders unwilling to stand up for what is right when unjust situations arose in congregations. Very rarely did I see justice prevail. Occasionally you would see an elder body really try to do the right thing. But in my opinion- most elder bodies would follow WT Society recommendations to the T even if it went against their collective conscience because it was a Nazi run organization. If the elders didn't obey " mother " they were no longer used as elders. A criminally complicit organization. Still is today.

VIDIOT- Yes, they are crazy and unfortunately not stupid. Just unethical, criminally insane, and very calculating. WT Society holds leverage on the elders in congregations and they know it. They are fully aware of what they are doing in an unjust way. They just do NOT care.

HAIRTRIGGER- I appreciated Lisa Roses post as well. Very good post and thoughts. Thanks for your post too Hairtrigger. Word needs to spread and get out to everybody we can get it out to

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Kendrick " Letter of Introduction " from Elders regarding Candace Conti Case

by flipper in

as many of us saw in the pbs news hour program and the abc news nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester jonathan kendrick when he moved to a new congregation.

i have parts of this " introduction letter " from the fremont congregation to the oakley congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these wt appointed elders were.

dated 1/16/98 it opens : .

flipper

Thanks for all the great comments and replies. Been working a lot the last couple days since I posted this- finally have some time to respond. Thanks again.

CRAZYGUY- I believe that you are correct ! WT Society just DOES NOT CARE if a " brother " is a child molester - or not. It's evidenced by the fact as you state that they KNEW your wife's grandfather was a child molester and they were getting ready to appoint him before he died. Unbelievable ! But it shows the lack of caring and irresponsibility of the WT Society leaders. They just do NOT care. They can verbally spout off flowery words that they care- but actions speak louder than words.

AUNT FANCY- Exactly, good points you make. The elders that recommended Kendrick as " fine brother who can offer a positive spirit to any congregation " were DEFINITELY giving him a free license to go seek out other victims for his perverted use in molesting them. Instead of being honest and WARNING the new congregation he was going to - the elders gave him a pat on the back and a glowing endorsement which would deceive and catch any unsuspecting JW parent of minor children unaware of Kendrick's deadly sociopathic and pedophile tendencies. There was no excuse to not warn parents in the congregation he moved to. And as you stated - I can't even begin to wrap my mind around a woman who would stay with a monster human being like that. She's just as messed up as he is. And the ABC Nightline video of how they both acted in their home driveway was pretty clear evidence that both of these people are totally messed up- actually made for each other.

STUCKINARUT 2- I was given access to most ALL of the court documentation in this case and other cases- but I must remain confidential about my sources. In order to accomplish a greater good here. I'm sure that you understand.

OUBLIETTE- Yeah, the letter was part of the Conti discovery process.

ELKATIRE 1980- And thanks for providing the link to that on JW Leaks- I appreciate it. Word does need to get out indeed.

FREDDO- Exactly. Why on earth these elders would recommend such a nutcase as Kendrick as exemplary is beyond me. Shows you how messed up and untrustworthy ANY recommendations of WT appointed elders really are. It's a good old boys club and they cover over wrongdoing for each other and for men in general in congregations. It's an archaic , patriarchal viewpoint type of organization based on the Middle East view of women and children. Disgusting .

COFTY- You nailed it. WT Society IS a criminal organization. And I've been using that term for months now when I refer to them in my comments on many different threads. For these elders to do what they did in recommending Kendrick- it was criminally negligent.

STUCKINARUT 2- Indeed these elders WERE both complicit in their criminal irresponsibility. One reason the jury found them AND the WT Society guilty and awarded Candace Conti the victory. And to think WT Society is trying to appeal it ? Ridiculous. What's to appeal. I think the evidence is clear the WT Society is guilty as hell and so are these elders. It's in writing right here for all to see !

TRUTHSEEKERIAM- Good point. Other elders who knew Kendrick's background probably kept their OWN children away from him- but failed to warn rank & file JW parents so they could protect their children as well. Very selfish.

HAIRTRIGGER- The stepdaughter HAD something on Kendrick indeed. AS Lisa Rose states he tampered with the stepdaughters breasts. These child molesters abuse multiple times usually so it's possible he may have abused other young people as well. You may hear the stepdaughters version of the story- but don't count on his wife telling HER side of the story- she supports him. Sick.

SPARROWDOWN- Good point. Makes us wonder how many OTHER WT letters of recommendations are fabrications from elders to new congregations when people move. Pretty scary.

LISAROSE- Thanks for those points about what Kendrick did to his stepdaughter. But as you stated it was pretty much just swept under the rug as Kendrick claimed it was a " mistake " that he touched his stepdaughters breasts. Uh-huh. I bet the mother did restrict Kendrick from being involved in any disciplinary actions towards her daughter at that point as you state. A bunch of cowardly elders for sure.

ESSE QUAM VIDERI- Good points. Not only was Kendrick a sexual pervert but he was a criminal. He should not have been allowed to have such free reign or access to children in ANY congregation he was in. WT Society and elders dropped the ball big time

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Kendrick " Letter of Introduction " from Elders regarding Candace Conti Case

by flipper in

as many of us saw in the pbs news hour program and the abc news nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester jonathan kendrick when he moved to a new congregation.

i have parts of this " introduction letter " from the fremont congregation to the oakley congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these wt appointed elders were.

dated 1/16/98 it opens : .

flipper

SIMON- Good points. There is definite legal culpability there in those words. In knowingly recommending him as " taking the lead with young ones " it's definitely a recommendation of what the ELDERS are projecting about Jonathan Kendrick's character- insinuating it's good for him to be around children. And of course we know- nothing was further from the truth ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Kendrick " Letter of Introduction " from Elders regarding Candace Conti Case

by flipper in

as many of us saw in the pbs news hour program and the abc news nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester jonathan kendrick when he moved to a new congregation.

i have parts of this " introduction letter " from the fremont congregation to the oakley congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these wt appointed elders were.

dated 1/16/98 it opens : .

flipper

Thanks for any and all comments here. This needs to be exposed so that not only JW's but non-JW's as well can see the liability and irresponsibility that falls on the shoulders of the WT leaders and their appointed elders.

OUBLIETTE- Indeed, irresponsibility at it's worst on the elders and WT Society's part. Not only failing to inform the new congregation of WHAT this man did in the past- but actually saying he is GOOD with young people ! I mean what dolts !

MARVIN SHILMER- Exactly, it's hard to read AND it set him up for searching out new victims he could victimize or molest. And yes, WT Society has many times appointed men as elders who had a history of committing child abuse. That's why word NEEDS to get out about this. It's time for everybody to get access to information about these crimes

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A Subtle Factor That Keeps Witnesses Silenced

by freemindfade in

had an interesting thought this morning.

when a witness is 'in' they think everyone else is following and trying there best all in unity.

i believe the reality is there are a lot of us 'in' who know different.

flipper

Another important topic that needs to be bumped up and kept in the forefront in order for JW's and non-JW's to understand the power of WT mind control and how destructive it really is

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Do JWs suffer from Stockholm Syndrome?

by campaign of hate in

jw
friends

this topic is what what it says on the tin.

do jws suffer/are suffering, from stockholm syndrome?.

getting abused (mentally) and then seem to form a relationship with the captives (wtbts).. there is also a condition called oslo syndrome, but haven't read up much about it.. personally, i think i might be suffering from the former.. would love to get a few opinions.....

flipper

This an important topic, bump this puppy to the top. JW's need to know this

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Kendrick " Letter of Introduction " from Elders regarding Candace Conti Case

by flipper in

as many of us saw in the pbs news hour program and the abc news nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester jonathan kendrick when he moved to a new congregation.

i have parts of this " introduction letter " from the fremont congregation to the oakley congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these wt appointed elders were.

dated 1/16/98 it opens : .

flipper

As many of us saw in the PBS news hour program and the ABC News Nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester Jonathan Kendrick when he moved to a new congregation. I have parts of this " introduction letter " from the Fremont Congregation to the Oakley Congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these WT appointed elders were.

Dated 1/16/98 it opens :

" Dear Brothers, Enclosed are the publisher cards of Brother Jonathan Kendrick , and OUR comments in his regard that we hope will enable you to get to KNOW him better.

" Brother Kendrick is a fine brother who can easily offer a " positive " spirit to a congregation. He has served the North Congregation as Literature Servant in the somewhat RECENT past, has done well in the TMS and presenting the " good news " in the field ministry.

" However, our brother has had a " stormy " marriage which has ended in divorce , during which time a Judicial Committee saw the need to place restrictions on him for outbursts of anger. His anger was not unprovoked however, in that his former wife ( now inactive ) , never allowed him to assume the scriptural role of " family head ". She resisted him in allowing her teenage daughter ( from a previous marriage ) , to date a " worldly " individual with whom she was sexually active ( even in their own residence when Jonathan was not present ) , resulting in a child out of wedlock. So Brother Kendrick has had much frustration to deal with , but the committee agreed that that didn't give him license to vent his anger in violent demonstration , which in at least one case, involved the Fremont police department.

" Brother Kendrick has been away from good, regular spiritual association for some months now . As a result , I fear the world's attitudes have creeped in on him a little more. Please help him put these aside. Jonathan may seem a little " gruff " on the outside , but you will find with some attention he will respond well to your efforts. He wants and appreciates strong, pointed counsel on the TMS as well as personally to help him grow and progress.

" The skills of Brother Kendrick vary from violin playing to topiary to wood-working and welding ( trade ). He is a very interesting individual who has taken the lead with some YOUNG ONES in the congregation and helped them from ' VEERING OFF COURSE.'

" Jonathan is no longer on restriction ; you'll find him to be a fine individual, kind, loving, and appreciates the peace and refreshment of the Christian brotherhood. Please convey our well wishes and warm love to him , and all those loyally serving JAH in the Brentwood Congregation."

Your brother, --------------- ------------------

I don't know about you- but this letter is a laughingstock , an absolute affront to any semblance of justice being done. These elders KNEW Jonathan Kendrick's background as a child molester and spoke well of him anyway to his new congregation- even to the point of saying he had helped young ones in the congregation from " veering off course ". Uh-huh. What ? By molesting them ? There is NO excuse for WT Society appointed elders to be SO irresponsible as to recommend a child molester in a positive way to a new congregation. It is unforgiveable as he ended up molesting more victims. Disgusting is an appropriate adjective.

And yet- the WT Society's attorneys KEEP denying any responsibility for what goes on inside their congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses wherein they appoint idiotic, lame brained men as elders who due to their irresponsibility continue to put children at risk by promoting in glowing terms pedophiles from one congregation to the next. And we wonder why the WT Society has so many child abuse cases and lawsuits against them right now ? It's because this happens ALL THE TIME. This is NOT a lone case if you are reading this as a lurking Jehovah's Witness. You may be sitting next to a pedophile right now as you attend your " Christian " meeting. And your children may be sitting next to a child molester or pedophile as they sit at your " Christian " meeting. Will the elders ever tell you as a parent if there is a molester sitting next to you ? No. Will they tell you as a parent if this pedophile newly molests children in your congregation ? No. So HOW do you protect your children ?

By getting PROACTIVE and spreading the word to other JW parents in your midst that this kind of conduct is going on and you have to ACT if your children are going to be protected. Call your local police authorities. Call child protective services if you know of these pedophiles or child molesters are being allowed to BE with children in your congregations. Whether out in service or alone at gatherings- will YOUR conscience as a parent be more responsible than the leaders of the WT Society or the elders towards your children ? If YOU don't protect the young ones in your midst- who will ? Not the elders. Not WT leaders. That's been proven. Now is the time to act, spread the word. I wish you all well, Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper P.S. Let's protect the children- THAT is the priority.

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Last chance to make an impact! Help me please....

by Anon_SA1 in

jw
friends

so tomorrow is going to be my last encounter with a jw friend of mine for various reasons on her side.

(long story).

i have spent a lot of time discussing various concerns about the jw teachings, but havent been able to make any progress in helping her to question or doubt the teachings.

flipper

Suggest that she google "shunning in religion." Ask her how many people would leave if the watchtower discontinued the shunning policy.