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  How did you get through mind numbing meetings?

  by minimus in

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  as an elder, i used to find a legitimate reason to wander.

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  I got " through " it by stopping attending altogether . Best way to get " through " it
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  Stop WT society information control by giving access to REAL information

  by flipper in

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  of course we all know that many ex-jw's are doing this online constantly and that's a good thing.

  whether by you tubes, websites, blogs, etc.

  the worldwide community of ex-jw's has been and will continue to be proactive in putting out real information to counteract and offset the lies and fantasy propaganda put out by the wt society.

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    Of course we all know that many ex-JW's are doing this online constantly and that's a good thing. Whether by you tubes, websites, blogs, etc. the worldwide community of ex-JW's has been and will continue to be proactive in putting out REAL information to counteract and offset the lies and fantasy propaganda put out by the WT Society.

    As realists some or perhaps many of us realize that this won't bring the WT Society down overnight as the mind control of the WT Society is strong and manipulates millions of unaware people. However in each of our little communities I suggest that we CAN make a change or difference in making JW's and non-JW's aware of the injustices committed by the WT organization.

    For instance some ideas to counteract the huge JW.org propaganda machine being pushed may be to just approach Witnesses as they are standing at their JW.org stands - NOT to argue, NOT to debate doctrine- but to come to them out of CONCERN for their welfare that they aren't being told about criminal actions of child abuse or be aware  that a pedophile may be sitting in the next seat to them at their local congregation. Then proceed to hand them perhaps News releases discussing the Lopez case in San Diego where WT Society had to pay out 13,5 million for refusing to testify or give out information. Or the Oregon child abuse case, Conti case, any of them. Perhaps ask leading questions while posing as an unbeliever who is concerned but has relatives inside the Witnesses ; perhaps questions like : If somebody is ex-communicated in your religion would you KNOW if it was for child abuse ? Do they announce WHO is a child molester in your church so parents can be warned for their children's safety ? Or mention to them that your JW relatives told you that the elders have to contact the WT legal department first before they ever contact the police . Ask them if they are aware of that policy ? Ask them to ask their elders about it.

    Ask them isn't the safety of children being potential victims important enough to insist that the congregation be made aware if a person is a molester or pedophile among them ? Isn't this the responsible thing to do ? Then let them answer. See where they go with it.

    I have had some interesting results in my little community talking to JW's when they are on breaks at Starbucks using this technique , or when they are doing street work with JW,org, or even at times I've slipped WT child abuse news releases under car windshield at parking lots at Kingdom Halls to get the word out about what's happening.

   Bottom line is that there are MANY ways that we as ex-JW's can responsibly counteract the information control of the WT Society organization. All it takes is effort and the willingness to assist others so they won't stay in the dark without information. Probably up to 95 % of the JW's right now are not aware of all the child abuse lawsuits against the WT Society right now or any other unjust WT actions that are occurring. All it takes from us is the willingness to show caring to others like someone reached out to us when we first exited.

   Do some of you folks have any suggestions on HOW we can not only inform JW's in our own little communities , perhaps starting small cracks of doubt among them , but also assist non-JW's to look into the dangers of the WT Society and warn them before they join ? I'm all ears here. Would be interested to see your ideas and thoughts ! Let's brainstorm ! Who knows ? In small little increments you and I may make a difference in our own geographical areas . Take care all, Love & Peace out, Mr. Flipper 
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  Woke up this morning to the realization that the future is now

  by campaign of hate in

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  as the title of the thread says, i woke up this morning realizing more than ever that we should, each and every one of us, live for today and what we can accomplish today, rather than constantly looking toward the future.. i'm not implying we shouldn't make plans, plans are healthy and advisable, especially if you have healthy commitments.. but i realized the reason why nothing in my life ever seems to get done, is because i put things off, and look ahead 10 years down the line, then a few days later realize how much work needs to be put into that said task, then i don't do anything.

  and so the cycle seems to repeat itself.. what i think i'm trying to say is that worthwhile endeavors that have a reward at the end, but take many years to get there, need to be challenged one day at a time.

  i now understand that to get to where we want to be 10 years down the line, we need to focus on today and the hard work that needs to be out into a task one day at a time.

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  CAMPAIGN of HATE- Yeah, exactly, well put, good thread. As JW's we were always told that the alleged REAL life would be in the future or " paradise ". That we were not LIVING a real life right now- in the here and now. So we were wrongly told by the WT Society to NOT put any emphasis on the importance of living in the here and now. That this life was just a preparation for the alleged " new system ". But that was and still is a crock of $hit.

    JW's were told during Rutherford's WT presidency  to NOT worry about getting married or having children as there would be " plenty of time to do that in God's new world ". That was stated back in 1941 - 74 years ago , so if those young JW's followed that advice they are either all dead with never having married or are in their 90's now having been thrown under the bus by the WT powers that be and stuck in corners like an old useless banjo. And young JW's are STILL in 2015 being told this same load of crap to NOT get married or have children today to put the kingdom, er, WT interests first. If these young JW's follow this advice in the year 2089 THEY will be dead or 90 years old with never having married or having any children.

    Bottom line is the WT Society is an unethical, criminal organization designed to ROB or STEAL away JW members lives so they can NEVER live life for themselves or accomplish anything today in the here and now. The pretend " blessings " are like a carrot dangled in JW's faces that runs out when they all die. And they ALL will die. So will we. Everybody does. So today is the first day of the rest of our life and we should value it as if it's the last. My 2 cents 
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  Last nights meeting...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
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  i know dubs are delusional.

  i know dubs don't reason well.

  i know dubs are a bit off, like many groups.

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  Morpheus- Don't worry about throwing cold water on this discussion. It's just JW insanity we are talkin' about no matter WHAT cartoon the WT Society pumps out.

   Toesup- I think you just had the classic best one-liner I have heard this year or in a long time ! " These people are nuttier than squirrel turds " I love it ! Gotta remember that one. Righteous ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper 
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  Last nights meeting...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know dubs are delusional.

  i know dubs don't reason well.

  i know dubs are a bit off, like many groups.

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  Good gawd almighty ! Run Caleb ! Run for your life Caleb ! Don't let them dunk you !

   P.S. Data-Dog this must have just made you want to melt in your seat ! Do you still have to go to meetings because of your spouse or family still in ? The sooner you can get away from attending - the sooner you can get away from the mind numbing lunatics and their information and the depression it might cause you. Hang in there 
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  Jehovah's Witnesses requesting financial transparency in Spain

  by JHK in

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  2. scandals

  two jehovah's witnesses requesting financial transparency in spain branch.

  one picture in the assembly hall and another on the bridge.. .

  http://johnhenrykurtz.blogspot.com.es/2015/01/transparencia-financiera-llegara-antes.html.

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  MAGNUM states, " JWs are only supposed to praise the great leaders. there is an atmosphere of FEAR within . "  Exactly. One reason these men in the picture are wearing masks. Peace out. Mr. Flipper
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  Lewd act with a child under 14 years of age

  by gda in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/.

  on january 6, 2015, the paso robles police department in california charged a jehovahs witness, steven martin lindhorst, 51, with the following offenses:.

  lewd act with a child under 14 years of age (felony), possession of child pornography (felony), possession of explicit child pornography (felony), posting intimate photos of another without consent (misdemeanor).

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  Another quote from the article by someone familiar with the case, " As far as I know he was still an elder in 2012. " Why doesn't that surprise me ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Lewd act with a child under 14 years of age

  by gda in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/.

  on january 6, 2015, the paso robles police department in california charged a jehovahs witness, steven martin lindhorst, 51, with the following offenses:.

  lewd act with a child under 14 years of age (felony), possession of child pornography (felony), possession of explicit child pornography (felony), posting intimate photos of another without consent (misdemeanor).

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  24,000 images of children having sex on his computer and 200 videos. Ick, sick pervert. Lock this twisted guy up and throw away the key. And lock up the elders who may have known about it while you're at it
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  Lewd act with a child under 14 years of age

  by gda in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/.

  on january 6, 2015, the paso robles police department in california charged a jehovahs witness, steven martin lindhorst, 51, with the following offenses:.

  lewd act with a child under 14 years of age (felony), possession of child pornography (felony), possession of explicit child pornography (felony), posting intimate photos of another without consent (misdemeanor).

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  Here we go again...... Good gawd, it will never stop. Sick pedophiles in the alleged " spiritual paradise "
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  Opinions of GB members

  by campaign of hate in

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  i would like to give my opinion of each gb member.

  i would probably split them into 3 groups.. group 1 - the hardliners.

  tony the 3rd: he knows exactly what hes's doing and saying.

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  Tony Morris the 3rd ( such as he is ) seems to be wanting to be the new " Ted Jaracz " of the GB 2.0 group. Just my observations, he seems to be a legend in his own mind. And he's just as crazy as Jaracz was- perhaps more so. Or his equal in nutsville