Posts by FusionTheism

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"This Generation"-- New Light AGAIN

by FusionTheism in

new "jesus--the way" book, pages 258-259: .

"truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.matthew 24:32-34. thus, when his disciples see the many different features of the sign being fulfilled, they should realize that the end is near.".

so now "this generation" is simply the disciples who see all the many different features of the sign?.

FusionTheism

The "Examining the Scriptures 2015" ("Daily Text") for October 28 may come back to haunt them lol:

"Wednesday, October 28

This generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.—Matt. 24:34.

We understand that in mentioning “thisgeneration,” Jesus was referring to two groups of anointed Christians. The first group discerned the sign of Christ’s presence in 1914. They were not merely alive in 1914, but they were spirit-anointed as sons of God in or before that year. (Rom. 8:14-17) The second group included in “this generation” are anointed contemporaries of the first group. They were not simply alive during the lifetime of those in the first group, but they were anointed with holy spirit during the time that those of the first group were still on earth. Today, Jesus’ words give us confidence that at least some of “this generation will by no means pass away” before seeing the start of the great tribulation. This should add to our conviction that little time remains before the King of God’s Kingdom acts to destroy the wicked and usher in a righteous new world.—2 Pet. 3:13. w14 1/15 5:15, 16"

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"This Generation"-- New Light AGAIN

by FusionTheism in

new "jesus--the way" book, pages 258-259: .

"truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.matthew 24:32-34. thus, when his disciples see the many different features of the sign being fulfilled, they should realize that the end is near.".

so now "this generation" is simply the disciples who see all the many different features of the sign?.

FusionTheism

Cappytan,

That makes a lot of sense. They may feel that it is "too soon" to put out a whole new Watchtower article changing it.

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Is 2034 the ultimate Watchtower date?

by cultswatter in

a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.

if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.

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FusionTheism

I do want to add something interesting.

When I was young (in the 80's), my parents and others in the Congregation would often say that the absolute oldest that the "Generation of 1914" could live to, would be 120.

So they did have 2034 in their minds as the absolute, final deadline in the 80's.

But that view of the Generation was done away with in 1995.

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Is 2034 the ultimate Watchtower date?

by cultswatter in

a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.

if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.

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FusionTheism

To me, it looks like the Governing Body is going in the total opposite direction of date-setting.

They are now gradually trying to completely distance themselves from the Generation, and from 1918, 1919, eventually 1914.

Their new August Watchtower even declares that the Tribulation could be in some "future time period."

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Doing away with Calculating How Close we are to THE END

by FusionTheism in

the watchtower study edition, august 2015, "keep in expectation!

" article:.

paragraph 3: "after looking forward to the end of this system for what may seem to be a long time, however, some may wonder, do we still have sound reasons to keep in expectation?

FusionTheism

Great comments Billy and Data-Dog.

Thank you.

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List of New Light statements in 2015

by FusionTheism in

march 15 2015 study watchtower:.

* the parables are all "simplified" now.. * doing away with most type / antitype interpretations (except for prophecies).. * the governing body was appointed in 1919 but will not receive their reward of expanded authority until the great tribulation.. * the evil slave is not a class of people, it's a hypothetical warning for each individual anointed one.. ---------.

may 15 2015 study watchtower:.

FusionTheism

The Type / Antitype change is actually incredibly significant because it wiped out thousands of teachings of the Society from the past 130 years in one or two little articles.

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List of New Light statements in 2015

by FusionTheism in

march 15 2015 study watchtower:.

* the parables are all "simplified" now.. * doing away with most type / antitype interpretations (except for prophecies).. * the governing body was appointed in 1919 but will not receive their reward of expanded authority until the great tribulation.. * the evil slave is not a class of people, it's a hypothetical warning for each individual anointed one.. ---------.

may 15 2015 study watchtower:.

FusionTheism

March 15 2015 Study Watchtower:

* The Parables are all "simplified" now.

* Doing away with most Type / Antitype interpretations (except for prophecies).

* The Governing Body was APPOINTED in 1919 but will not receive their reward of expanded authority until the Great Tribulation.

* The Evil Slave is NOT a class of people, it's a hypothetical warning for each individual anointed one.

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May 15 2015 Study Watchtower:

* Gog of Magog is not Satan, it is a Coalition of Nations.

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July 15 2015 Study Watchtower:

* There is the possibility that people can still be saved after the Tribulation begins.

* The anointed will be raptured to Heaven at the end of Tribulation.

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August 2015 Study Watchtower:

* We have no way of knowing how soon the end will come, and it could be in a future time period.

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Jesus--The Way, The Truth, The Life book:

* This Generation that will not pass away are the disciples who see all of the many different signs of the last days, and this means the end is "near."

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"This Generation"-- New Light AGAIN

by FusionTheism in

new "jesus--the way" book, pages 258-259: .

"truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.matthew 24:32-34. thus, when his disciples see the many different features of the sign being fulfilled, they should realize that the end is near.".

so now "this generation" is simply the disciples who see all the many different features of the sign?.

FusionTheism

New "Jesus--The Way" Book, Pages 258-259:

"Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.”—Matthew 24:32-34. Thus, when his disciples see the many different features of the sign being fulfilled, they should realize that the end is near."

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So now "this generation" is simply the disciples who see all the many different features of the sign?

And "generation" now just means "near?"

Also, if this "generation" must see all the signs, then it would have to begin after the UN (Disgusting Thing) was created in the 1940's, right?

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Doing away with Calculating How Close we are to THE END

by FusionTheism in

the watchtower study edition, august 2015, "keep in expectation!

" article:.

paragraph 3: "after looking forward to the end of this system for what may seem to be a long time, however, some may wonder, do we still have sound reasons to keep in expectation?

FusionTheism

The Watchtower Study Edition, August 2015, "Keep In Expectation!" Article:

Paragraph 3: "After looking forward to the end of this system for what may seem to be a long time, however, some may wonder, ‘Do we still have sound reasons to keep in expectation?’ Let us see."

Paragraph 5: "Jesus did not say how long that period of time would go on before the end arrived"

Paragraph 6: "We might ask: Could not 'the conclusion of the system of things' refer to a future time when world conditions will become even worse? The Bible does indicate that wickedness will greatly increase 'in the last days.' (2 Tim. 3:1, 13; Matt. 24:21; Rev. 12:12) So we can expect that world conditions, bad as they are now, will continue to decline."

Paragraph 10: "Many of us have been keeping awake spiritually for decades. However, let us not allow the passing of time to weaken our resolve to keep in expectation."

Paragraph 11: "He said: 'Keep on the watch.' So a long wait would not justify mentally postponing the end or totally dismissing their expectations."

Paragraph 14: "We will surely be thankful that God, who ‘has placed times and seasons in his own jurisdiction,’ exhorted us to live with an awareness that ‘the end of all things had drawn close.’—Acts 1:7; 1 Pet. 4:7."

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This ties in with the "Newest Light" from the 2015 Insight Book regarding the "generation":

"So his comment about “this generation” logically had an application down to 70 C.E. However, he was also using the word “generation” with reference to humans whose lives would in some way be associated with the foretold events during his presence."

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A Tug on the Leash (The Authority Which the GB Wields Over the R&F)

by Oubliette in

recently, several comments have been made in various threads in reference to some of the recent changes to a few of the rules by which jehovah's witnesses must live their lives in unquestioning compliance.

the assertion has been made that these rules are a "relaxing" of previous restrictions.

the suggestion has been made that this somehow indicates a corresponding relaxing or loosening or lessening of the authority which the governing body (gb) holds over the rank and file (r&f) members of the religion.

FusionTheism

The Watchtower, October 1, 2014, Page 8:

"You are wise to be cautious instead of believing everything you hear. (Proverbs 14:15) In some ways, your caution could be compared to that of the ancient Beroeans.* When they were first told about the good news of the Kingdom, the Beroeans accepted what they heard, but not simply because they wanted it to be true. Rather, they carefully examined the Scriptures “to see whether these things were so.” (Acts 17:11) In other words, the Beroeans compared the good news that they heard with what the Scriptures say. In time, they became convinced that the good news was in fact solidly based on God’s Word."