As the "mark" has to be here for all to see in the "last days", what could it be?
HINT;
There is NO voting in a Kingdom as a GOVERNMENT!
Norval
we have all heard all the crap about 666, now does anyone have any conjecture or idea about 616?
i have only heard of one possible conclusion to this so far.
616 is generaly found in the oldest manuscripts.
As the "mark" has to be here for all to see in the "last days", what could it be?
HINT;
There is NO voting in a Kingdom as a GOVERNMENT!
Norval
why is it so many lay the blame on god for the appointment of elders?
read your bibles!
it is the anointed amongst you that are to appoint elders, but the anointed are to judge!
TP a mind set such as yours isn't worth the effort to attempt to discuss anything with. Enjoy your old wine skin, and I will enjoy the new wine.
Norval
hi i am new to this forum, so please bear with me.
i have a question from the book of john.
john is asked if he is the christ, he replies no, then he is asked if he is the prophet, he replies no.
Even today the Jews set a place for Elijah the prophet in certain ceremonies that is due to return before the Mesiah. Jesus said that John the Baptist was this "Elijah" that was destined to come. Jesus also said that we are to expect another before his return. There are many passages in the bible about this. John didnt do all that the Prophet is supposed to do. As the Deciples were looking for the Prophet at the Time Jesus showed up, we today shold possibly be looking for one?
Just a thought.
Norval
yesterday my brother (ever-loyal witness baptized same day as me 10 years ago; who is married to a holier-than-thou regular pioneer and subsequently with her encouragement has since avoided me as much as possible since i da myself) and his wife (see description above) came over to visit.. well.. shooting the proverbial shit, we got to the topic of movies.
asking politely if he or his wife had seen lord of the rings.. she interjected that it was inappropriate because it suggested wizardry and spiritism, and would never see such filth.
trying very hard to remain polite, my mom noticed the pause and said if they wanted to borrow any movies we have on tape to watch at home.. sneaky as i am, while they flapped their gums with my parents i glanced in the bag to see what they borrowed.. they took:.
*chuckles* not even a few hours go by and you pop a cork because of no posts? Thats a bit short fused isn't it? Hell it was a good post, informative, and well wrote. What would many respond with?
I think the key word for these times is ENDURANCE. But that might take a bit of patience too. *grins*
why is it so many lay the blame on god for the appointment of elders?
read your bibles!
it is the anointed amongst you that are to appoint elders, but the anointed are to judge!
Why is it I am reminded of an even worse "mind set" than that as displayed by most JW's when I come across such posts as yours TP?
And if a "attitude of regret" is not present in the one? What then TP?
i read this atricle recently that sums up rather nicely why the watchtower stance on blood transfusions is innaccurate and deadly.. please read this for information before taking your position on the issue & i would welcome any comments:.
jehovahs witnesses.
twisting the scriptures on blood.
ONE last try to show a simple point. WHAT I PERSONALY DO HAS NO BEARING!
The punishment for eating blood is "CUTTING OFF"!
The punishment for eating "dead" meat is uncleanness till evening!
The post was WRONG that started this thread!
What, when, where, and why YOU eat is your concern and your concience!
What, when, where, and why you prescribe to specific medical treatments is YOUR choice!
i read this atricle recently that sums up rather nicely why the watchtower stance on blood transfusions is innaccurate and deadly.. please read this for information before taking your position on the issue & i would welcome any comments:.
jehovahs witnesses.
twisting the scriptures on blood.
Bang;
The point, which I think you missed entirely was about the idea of the passage changed. It became a different circumstance and so not of the same punishment. ?hmmmm
what makes the gb different than other wt members?.
this seems to suggest that because the wt has told you some truth they are worthy of your complete confidence that everything they say is the truth.
russell explained his "enlightenment" like this:.
That there is no explination given by the GB is rather odd in and of it's self I would say.
All I can offer is my own understanding of HOW, and what I have learned in 30 years of having "insight". This hasn't been easy as the GB has made it so. For many decades it has been that if the Anointed ones were known to be meeting they were kicked out! But by meeting we discovered that when insight about something came to one it was given to all others at the same time. BECAUSE we talked with each other we learned this. We know that these insights can come from the words of another, in a dream, into your mind as a thought or along with emotions to enhance the insight. It is because we can now talk using the WWW and discuss these insights and VERIFY them along with researching scripture to make sure that we can release these insights confidently to any and all.
God's Kingdom by His Anointed is a GOVERNMENT!
NOT a religion!
Just start oiling up your "wine skin", because some of these "insights" are gonna turn your insides out! Yes, many other religions have had the gift of Anointed ones in their understanding of truth. You can see the influence through out history amongst the religions. There is so much more to this story,,, and it is gonna take time to tell and to get it all verified and ratified by others of the Calling.
what makes the gb different than other wt members?.
this seems to suggest that because the wt has told you some truth they are worthy of your complete confidence that everything they say is the truth.
russell explained his "enlightenment" like this:.
Using the 2 words insight and Anointed this is what I found from the WT CD i now have.
WT 1998 2/15 P7
WT 1987 7/1 P10
WT 1981 3/1
WT 1970 11/15
The anointed remnant of "people who are knowing their God" have been the ones
that have prevailed, and this due to having insight.
BOOK Daniel's Prophecy 1999 chpt. 17 P 11
BOOK Daniel's Prophecy 1999 chpt. 18 P 7
Am still doing research, but it is interesting how little is found. ?!
As I have talked with several of the Anointed, and most of them knew less than I did about the how's and why's of the "insight" being given and how it got out to the people at large. If I remember correctly there is something published about "the Anointed to keep on writing in their letters of insight" to the GB. Havent found it ,,, yet. What I do know personaly of the operation of the gift of insight I'll share in another thread. Personaly I think the GB is corrupted and with out insight, yet many outside of the JW's have this gift and we all seem to "know" pretty much the same things.
Norval
we have all heard all the crap about 666, now does anyone have any conjecture or idea about 616?
i have only heard of one possible conclusion to this so far.
616 is generaly found in the oldest manuscripts.
As with most that use the UNTRANSLATED word antichrist in all of its great "mystique". It simply means "all those against the Anointed". You would think somebody would get that simple word deception correct by now?
Look at the world! Before most of you were born the US caused "sanctions" so that countries could not buy or sell with out their aproval. They then gave this power and authority over to the UN to sanction countries so none may buy nor sell with out their demonocracy ways! (just a slight punny) The mark of the beast and 616 do corelate,,,