Seems in this day and age, that people can take "computer" classes and with their tablets, and don't have to go to an actual class. Of course, they "are not to forsake the gathering of each other." But would seem many would gradually develop into a convenience of that in time. Then again, the WTS knows that their members need to have the elders in their face for the needed control.
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by Gorbatchov ini can't understand why the governing body aka fds has to deside about using a tablet by the speaker at the platform.. why using a tablet anyway at the platform?.
just a toy to keep the youth inside the congregation.. gorby.
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Organized to Do Jehovahs Will
by juliew ini found a copy of this book in my childs room at my home.
i am not a jw but their other parent is.. .
should i be concerned.
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Gayle
Here in Arizona, I went to a court with a non-JW mom (I met through this site in fact) who went to court about concern that her 3 children could be baptized JW. The judge asked the JW father what age the JWs baptize,,the father said "at age of maturity." The judge asked "at what age is that?" The father said that the child is asked several questions by the elders to determine if they were mature enough. Surprisingly. the judge said then that 'he' would question the children also to determine if they were mature." The judge also required that the mother should receive 90 day notice before any baptism of the children and then she would have to inform the court.
A year later I contacted her to see how things were going. She was happy to say that the kids weren't even going to meetings with their dad. Sounds like to her that the father wasn't going to meetings either, at least not when the kids were with him.
I had never heard of a judge requiring that order before.
The non-JW mom also requested that only the 'father' could have a personal Bible Study with the children and not any elders nor anyone else in the cong. The judge granted that also.
The mom also requested the kids not go to meetings at the Kingdom Hall. Of course, the judge didn't grant that. But in all, I was amazed at what she did accomplish.
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"Jehovah's visible organization can use you, but can get along without you" Quote Watchtower
by Watchtower-Free incan't you just feel the love of the org.. .
*** watchtower 50 1/15 p. 26 par.
22 who will share in the final witness?
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Gayle
Knorr was more direct to those of us at Bethel in early '70s:
"I brought you in and I can take you out!"
Basically back then, we knew there that Knorr 'was' the GB, but he let Freddie have some things to say here and there.
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Confusedandalone is in need of a name change
by confusedandalone inhey everyone, i want to apologize for not rtesponding to a number of messages i recieved over the last month or so.
i took a break as suggested by someone else to try and sort things out and clear my head.
my wife has been reading alot on here and kept me updated on all the fun that has been going on!.
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Gayle
Sounds like the elders are the "confused" ones. They just probably don't want to DF you.
I know of one who left the org. The elders didn't want to 'approach' him either, he totally baffled them. Finally, for his kids, he put up Christmas lights. He was notified by a relative in a different country, that he was DF'd. He was never informed by the elders.
Well, Christmas is in a couple months.
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Time to take my mask off.
by braincleaned inafter more than two years here on jwn, i will unmask myself and finally close the closet door behind me, fully coming out.. let me be pithy.. my name is vincent deporter.
i'm a writer/artist published a little all over the place.
i started my career in france, about 35 years ago.
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Gayle
Thanks Randy!
Another site on Facebook under "Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses in Arizona." That site not very active recently.
Here in Phoenix there was a gathering (last month) a central AMC showing of "The Truth Be Told" documentary. I think 60 tickets were sold.
There are very many ex-JWs in the valley. Most don't attend the meetups, or just occasionally, but they go on with their lives, busy catching up with life, and enjoying life very much more than ever.
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If all ''faders'' abruptly left the Watchtower and made no effort to hide the reasons why, what affect, if any, do you think it would make on the congregations?
by ThomasCovenant inwhen you're part of a lovely big group of people who all seem to be happy in their beliefs, it's easier to quell your own doubts.
if i was the only person left in the congregation who still went on the door to door work, because every body else had stopped going , having said out loud what most think, ''it's a waste of time'', how long do you think before i too would cease going door to door?.
i know from my own perspective that having lots of fellow witnesses around me, steered me into making life changing decisions.
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Gayle
An abuser doesn't self-scrutinize much. They just stand back scratching their butt, stating they just don't understand at all 'why' ones (their victims) left them. They put the blame on others.
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Time to take my mask off.
by braincleaned inafter more than two years here on jwn, i will unmask myself and finally close the closet door behind me, fully coming out.. let me be pithy.. my name is vincent deporter.
i'm a writer/artist published a little all over the place.
i started my career in france, about 35 years ago.
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Gayle
So glad for you that you have found freedom, a new life and have such a fulfilling talent for your work. Having your gift of humor and sharing that is such a healer. And glad you are in the Phoenix area. There are a couple areas, NW Phoenix and Chandler that have exJW groups that would really enjoy meeting you. Each group meet once a month and neither have any belief system agenda, but to encourage and personally understand.
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NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT
by clarity in# 3 newbie post.
first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.
have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!
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Gayle
It is so heart-warming to see such a list. Very encouraging! Someday, maybe there will be a list of "real" names. I could not have signed such a list of my 'real' name for 10 years, but now I can. 'Totally free' for near 20 years now.
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No more by us!
by Atlantis inno more boes or kingdom ministries will be posted by us on this board.
there is a very important reason why!
beware of anyone encouraging you to post any boes on this board.
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Gayle
The GB may try to hold someone down a very short while, while more pop up. They have a losing battle on that one and more.
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No more by us!
by Atlantis inno more boes or kingdom ministries will be posted by us on this board.
there is a very important reason why!
beware of anyone encouraging you to post any boes on this board.
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Gayle
Atlantis, thank you for all work here.