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  HELP with history and daniel and damned confounded circular reasoning!

  by TheKings in

  1. watchtower
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  i've been put into the corner arguing with my jw mom about 607/587 being the destruction of jerusalem.. i got her to admit 607 was wrong, but she says the prophecy in daniel with the cutting of the tree and removing the crown (anybody know what i'm talking about???

  ) was referring to when in 607 the kings and nobles in jerusalem were taken captive to babylon (i think it was babylon...she confused the hell out of me) and it was destroyed in 587, but that doesn't matter.. so counting the seven times is from the time the crown was removed in 607 to 1914 and jesus' invisible reign.. .

  anybody understand this and want to help me?

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  TheKings

  holy crap!

  i looked into the daniel book and found where it said the exiles were taken 617 not 607 and i told her ...and she freaked out!

  she cursed at me, threw a pillow, named every reason she could think of why i was a bad person, and told me i was ungrateful for questioning the society. i sat calmly and told her to stop with the name calling...she stopped after 15 minutes or so and told me i was mean. ...she said she would prove i was wrong, but it was mean to make her second guess what she knew.

  (the day before when she thought she was right she said it was good to question. what hypocrisy )

  she told me this morning that she would rather trust the society than believe any different because she had looked at th wikipedia online about it and one of their sources was questionable.

  she said that everything else they teach is true and good so it doesn't matter.

  what a bunch of horse manure!
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  Someone may benefit from this..regarding the Expos'es of the organization

  by Lady Liberty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello all.... i hope this day finds you all healthy, and happy.

  i came acrossed some notes i made many months ago when i was going through the research phase of getting out.

  my intent was to cover every subject i came across.

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  TheKings

  i didn't know about the mexico/malawi thing before this.. all i heard was a few boastings in the yearbook about martyrs for the WT in malawi.

  thanks for sharing this.
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  UNDERGROUND RAILROAD (helping JWs see)

  by apocalypse in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am an "active" jw.

  i serve.

  give talks.

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  TheKings

  reading stuff like this makes my day. i wish i would have known these things before leaving so i could have helped too.

  you guys rock
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  What Emotion Do You Have Now Because You Were One Of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are you angry that you ever got involved in this religion??

  depressed??

  confused??

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  TheKings

  it was like waking up from a dream. leaving them wasn't enough, i had to find out that not only was it not for me, it was blatantly false...then it all melted away and i had power over the guilt i was saddled with.

  i'm too busy enjoying my freedom to be angry...but then again i still have much of my young life still ahead of me. for someone who had been enslaved for more than half their life i can imagine it is much different.
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  Where have you found JW literature?

  by Funchback in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, yesterday i'm at bally's (a fitness center) and i'm about to get on the treadmill.

  i decided to check out their magazine rack.

  let's see...'bicycling', 'sports illustrated', 'a2z', and about 10 watchtower and awakes.

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  TheKings

  Inside a public toilet taped to the wall. Written next to them, " Emergency toilet paper."

  finally, we've found a use for it.
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  HELP with history and daniel and damned confounded circular reasoning!

  by TheKings in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been put into the corner arguing with my jw mom about 607/587 being the destruction of jerusalem.. i got her to admit 607 was wrong, but she says the prophecy in daniel with the cutting of the tree and removing the crown (anybody know what i'm talking about???

  ) was referring to when in 607 the kings and nobles in jerusalem were taken captive to babylon (i think it was babylon...she confused the hell out of me) and it was destroyed in 587, but that doesn't matter.. so counting the seven times is from the time the crown was removed in 607 to 1914 and jesus' invisible reign.. .

  anybody understand this and want to help me?

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  TheKings

  thank you so very much!

  this is just the info i needed.
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  HELP with history and daniel and damned confounded circular reasoning!

  by TheKings in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been put into the corner arguing with my jw mom about 607/587 being the destruction of jerusalem.. i got her to admit 607 was wrong, but she says the prophecy in daniel with the cutting of the tree and removing the crown (anybody know what i'm talking about???

  ) was referring to when in 607 the kings and nobles in jerusalem were taken captive to babylon (i think it was babylon...she confused the hell out of me) and it was destroyed in 587, but that doesn't matter.. so counting the seven times is from the time the crown was removed in 607 to 1914 and jesus' invisible reign.. .

  anybody understand this and want to help me?

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  TheKings

  i'm going to check back here tomorrow morning to see if i got some answers

  i could have answered it back in the day but it's been way too long since i've opened up any of their books and read them. i'm out of the loop. i just need a couple hints and it will all be like riding a bicycle...you never really forget(that's the problem).
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  HELP with history and daniel and damned confounded circular reasoning!

  by TheKings in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been put into the corner arguing with my jw mom about 607/587 being the destruction of jerusalem.. i got her to admit 607 was wrong, but she says the prophecy in daniel with the cutting of the tree and removing the crown (anybody know what i'm talking about???

  ) was referring to when in 607 the kings and nobles in jerusalem were taken captive to babylon (i think it was babylon...she confused the hell out of me) and it was destroyed in 587, but that doesn't matter.. so counting the seven times is from the time the crown was removed in 607 to 1914 and jesus' invisible reign.. .

  anybody understand this and want to help me?

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  TheKings

  i've been put into the corner arguing with my JW mom about 607/587 being the destruction of jerusalem.

  i got her to admit 607 was wrong, but she says the prophecy in daniel with the cutting of the tree and removing the crown (anybody know what i'm talking about???) was referring to when in 607 the kings and nobles in jerusalem were taken captive to babylon (i think it was babylon...she confused the hell out of me) and it was destroyed in 587, but that doesn't matter.

  so counting the seven times is from the time the crown was removed in 607 to 1914 and jesus' invisible reign.

  anybody understand this and want to help me? please...please...pretty please...
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  Welcome Noniya to the forum!

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  her first post was here;.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/121897/3.ashx.

  not pertinent to the sunject at hand - so i assume she did not know how to begin a thread maybe.

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  TheKings

  she had some good points
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  Update to Our Letter Responses

  by LennyinBluemont in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those unfamiliar with the earlier thread, it can be found here:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/121203/1.ashx.

  i received an email today from "ed" (names changed to protect the indoctrinated).

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  TheKings

  Yes, I believe there should be apologies made because there are a significant number of people out there similar to you, or ones that have been more seriously directly effected by something in the past.

  right there...that's his out. ;) if he can say 'in the past' then he doesn't have to feel bad for what they are doing and will continue to do as long as people still go for it. it's quite an insulting dismissal of facts.