Posts by TheKings

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HELP with history and daniel and damned confounded circular reasoning!

by TheKings in

i've been put into the corner arguing with my jw mom about 607/587 being the destruction of jerusalem.. i got her to admit 607 was wrong, but she says the prophecy in daniel with the cutting of the tree and removing the crown (anybody know what i'm talking about???

) was referring to when in 607 the kings and nobles in jerusalem were taken captive to babylon (i think it was babylon...she confused the hell out of me) and it was destroyed in 587, but that doesn't matter.. so counting the seven times is from the time the crown was removed in 607 to 1914 and jesus' invisible reign.. .

anybody understand this and want to help me?

TheKings

thank you so very much!

this is just the info i needed.

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HELP with history and daniel and damned confounded circular reasoning!

by TheKings in

i've been put into the corner arguing with my jw mom about 607/587 being the destruction of jerusalem.. i got her to admit 607 was wrong, but she says the prophecy in daniel with the cutting of the tree and removing the crown (anybody know what i'm talking about???

) was referring to when in 607 the kings and nobles in jerusalem were taken captive to babylon (i think it was babylon...she confused the hell out of me) and it was destroyed in 587, but that doesn't matter.. so counting the seven times is from the time the crown was removed in 607 to 1914 and jesus' invisible reign.. .

anybody understand this and want to help me?

TheKings

i'm going to check back here tomorrow morning to see if i got some answers

i could have answered it back in the day but it's been way too long since i've opened up any of their books and read them. i'm out of the loop. i just need a couple hints and it will all be like riding a bicycle...you never really forget(that's the problem).

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HELP with history and daniel and damned confounded circular reasoning!

by TheKings in

i've been put into the corner arguing with my jw mom about 607/587 being the destruction of jerusalem.. i got her to admit 607 was wrong, but she says the prophecy in daniel with the cutting of the tree and removing the crown (anybody know what i'm talking about???

) was referring to when in 607 the kings and nobles in jerusalem were taken captive to babylon (i think it was babylon...she confused the hell out of me) and it was destroyed in 587, but that doesn't matter.. so counting the seven times is from the time the crown was removed in 607 to 1914 and jesus' invisible reign.. .

anybody understand this and want to help me?

TheKings

i've been put into the corner arguing with my JW mom about 607/587 being the destruction of jerusalem.

i got her to admit 607 was wrong, but she says the prophecy in daniel with the cutting of the tree and removing the crown (anybody know what i'm talking about???) was referring to when in 607 the kings and nobles in jerusalem were taken captive to babylon (i think it was babylon...she confused the hell out of me) and it was destroyed in 587, but that doesn't matter.

so counting the seven times is from the time the crown was removed in 607 to 1914 and jesus' invisible reign.

anybody understand this and want to help me? please...please...pretty please...

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Welcome Noniya to the forum!

by AK - Jeff in

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her first post was here;.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/121897/3.ashx.

not pertinent to the sunject at hand - so i assume she did not know how to begin a thread maybe.

TheKings

she had some good points

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Update to Our Letter Responses

by LennyinBluemont in

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for those unfamiliar with the earlier thread, it can be found here:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/121203/1.ashx.

i received an email today from "ed" (names changed to protect the indoctrinated).

TheKings

Yes, I believe there should be apologies made because there are a significant number of people out there similar to you, or ones that have been more seriously directly effected by something in the past.

right there...that's his out. ;) if he can say 'in the past' then he doesn't have to feel bad for what they are doing and will continue to do as long as people still go for it. it's quite an insulting dismissal of facts.

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Armageddon Imagery

by JimWood in

hey, can anyone get me a great armageddon image?

-- i seem to have lost my paradise brochure and i need one for a philosophy project tomorrow.

i know danny haszard usually drops the one into his posts, the one with the woman falling into the crevice, does anyone else have the ability to find or put it on here for my use?

TheKings

yup...i grew up looking at that shit.

absolutely deplorable.

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The Impact of this Discussion Board in your Present Life

by The wanderer in

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the impact of this discussion board in your present life from time to time that question comes into my heart .

and mind.

all of the information and research that .

TheKings

1.) What if this discussion board did not exist?

there is courage in numbers. without this board there would be far more solitary sufferers.

2.) What if there was no real way to know that
what you were feeling was right or wrong?

i would continue my life without the organisation only with the thought in the back of my mind that they are right and i would just die in armageddon. i always thought that if the bible was true the wbts was true and they were the only ones who knew the bible. it seriously kept me from moving on.

3.) In other words, how important has this
discussion board been, and what sort
of an impact has it had on your life?

it's a godsend, if ever there was one. i've got a headache right now from reading too much, but i can't seem to concentrate on anything else.

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Disfellowshipping

by vanillamocha in

i was recently in court for the domestic violence charges against my former (and still in excellent standing) spouse.

he is using all jws to say how he is such a wonderful person, etc - all total and complete lies as some of them are actual eyewitnesses to my abuse.

in his sworn statement, he says that jws do not disfellowship, do not shun, and that i am not disfellowshipped, but that all my "friends" won't talk to me because it is their choice.

TheKings

it could be easily be disproven using their literature on the subject. if you can disprove one lie the rest may well fall like dominoes. concentrate on one at a time.

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Heard at last Sunday talk...

by Justice-One in

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i almost had to sneeze and scream bullshit when i heard this.

the brother giving the talk said that the society has never made a prediction about when the end would come.

he said people just read what the society published, and added their own thoughts to it!!!

TheKings

think about it ...how many older jw's there knew it was BS?

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Where have all the elders gone?

by becca1 in

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TheKings

i'm sure they are made of stronger stuff than that. they can never forget what they learned, anyway.